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Back in 2006, a film crew followed JFX photographers for six months and now that footage will be screened in a the Documentary titled ‘Giving It Up‘ at the Palm Spring Film Festival. There will be two screening held next week and we’ll be attending the first screening this Monday, January 12, 2008, along with the director Frank Ruy. If you’re in the area, be sure to swing by to check out the documentary or just say hi. I’m sure we’ll be hitting up a couple of the local watering holes afterwards! I’ll have the trailer up soon and I’ll keep you posted on future screenings. Check out below for information on the screening or check out the official website for advanced tickets.

Mon. Jan. 12th 9:30am :
Palm Springs Regal 9
789 E. Tahquitz Canyon Way
Palm Springs, CA 92262

Thurs. Jan. 15th 12:30pm:
Palm Springs Regal 9
789 E. Tahquitz Canyon Way
Palm Springs, CA 92262

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Author: Ronnie

538 Replies to “JFX Documentary To Screen In Palm Springs”

  1. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    This must be very exciting for JFX!

    How did you come to hook up with the director, Frank Ruy? Can you tell us a bit more about him?

  2. Ronnie Says:

    Frank pursued the guys for quite a while, hearing stories of this pap agency founded by former gang members. So after many meetings, dinners, beers and more beer, the guys finally agreed to let him in to the inner circle.

  3. MH Says:

    Cool, Congratulations!

    Can’t wait to see it!

    Who came up with…they traded their nines for nikons?

  4. Ronnie Says:

    I’m not sure, it’s been something the guys have been saying for years I think.

  5. Amethyst Mine Says:

    So exciting!!!! Thanks, Ronnie.

    I’m thrilled for you.

  6. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Is there any way we can see it without flying to Palm Springs? :)

    Or do you have any further festivals lined up for North America?

  7. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Questions, questions, questions…Sorry!

  8. Ronnie Says:

    I’m not sure what the plan is after the festival, but I will def keep you posted on future screenings.

  9. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Cool! Sounds good to me! :)

  10. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I don’t know the evolution of a documentary once it is released.

  11. Ronnie Says:

    i’m sure it’s different. it can get picked up for wide release, or picked up for straight to dvd release or nothing. we’d all like to see it do well and available at your local art house for screening.

  12. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Starring… fun!

  13. doc1955 Says:

    good beans!

  14. MARK TWAIN Says:

    I was told that our friend is in the film as well? Good Times. Have a drink on me!

  15. doc1955 Says:

    SALUD!!!

  16. small hands Says:

    Good job everyone!
    I wish you much success :)
    Have a grand time at the screening.

  17. Amethyst Mine Says:

    newamsterdamnyc.com/images/GIU ShineRev PR10 21 08.pdf

    ‘”Los Angeles, October 21, 2008 ‐‐ “Giving It Up” directed by Frank Ruy, has been selected for screening in this year’s edition of the prestigious “Hofer Filmtage” which runs from October 21‐26, 2008 in Hof, Germany.

    The “Hof” Film Festival, which has been often compared to the Telluride Festival in the USA,
    has grown to be one of the most recognized festivals in Germany since it was started by Festival Director Heinz Badewitz over four decades ago.”

    “ShineReveille International is handling international distribution and has already licensed the film in the United Kingdom, Belgium, Israel, Norway and Sweden.”

    I do believe our friend is in it but I can’t remember where I read that. Maybe I bugged Ronnie about the film last year and heard that way.

  18. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Ronnie, you mentioned a trailer?
    c’monnnn, please?

  19. gigi Says:

    yes we need a good long trailer please showing all our favorite men.

  20. Ronnie Says:

    I’m waiting for it too. I’ll get it up as soon as I get it! I promise.

  21. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Hello all.

  22. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Hello.

  23. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I have….. ARRIVED.

  24. Ronnie Says:

    I’m here too!

  25. Amethyst Mine Says:

    YeA!

  26. small hands Says:

    I’m here too :)

  27. small hands Says:

    Oh and I guess we can dedicate our new thread to doc1955 :)
    Since he provides lots of entertainment on this board!!

    Ronnie you got any inside info concerning OK and them not working with the Spears family?

  28. Amethyst Mine Says:

    This is delicious. lol BH posters are getting creative with their Posters – it’s a little graphic poster war. Jamie poised in a bikini with a cash bag? They start at page three in Exhale in the OK mag story.

    I like the one quoting things Britney said in the documentary.

    Ronnie, Linda, any updates on the phone? Working, not working? Prop?

  29. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Someone over at BH made this funny little clip where they’ve taken a scene from a movie where one actor punches another and knocks him to the ground. They’ve pasted a picture of Jordan and Jamie’s faces over the actors. It’s terrible, but hilarious all at the same time.

  30. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    So, Doc, what kind of shoes are you wearing today?

    Fess up.

  31. small hands Says:

    LOL…I need to go over to BH and snoop.

  32. MH Says:

    Ronnie,

    How did the screening go today?

  33. small hands Says:

    Oh, I thought the screening was tonight. So it already screened? How did it go?

  34. Amethyst Mine Says:

    oh dang. my bad. I thought the screening was later this week.

  35. small hands Says:

    Oops, completely missed the 9:30 screening time posted on this page. Stupid me….

  36. small hands Says:

    AM there is another screening on the 15th, if you had planned to go.

  37. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Sooooo…. if A and B were not together wouldn’t A be working in his field again?

  38. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Thanks, small. It’s a bit of a hike from here through desolate lands. The weather is cool right now but imagine when it’s hot, there being signs of beware of your car overheating (due to grades)and a sign or two letting you know, here is water but beware of bees.

    ha! I wish the guys luck.

    I might meet up with gigi on Friday for lunch. I wonder if we will call each other A.M. and G.G.

  39. small hands Says:

    HAHAHA…
    Have a nice time talking everyone…I’m out!!

  40. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Nice to see you small.

    guys, if you check videos there a new one today on Lindsay and her sis. What’s fun is the coffee shop proprietor giving the guys free drinks… wheat grass juice?

    No wonder they didn’t credit the place in their write-up.

  41. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Giving our guys wheat grass juice I meant, “You guys are human beings too.”

  42. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    That new remix of “Circus” that Jordan posted at BH is better than the original! I’m really liking it.

  43. Amethyst Mine Says:

    One of the oddest things about BH posters is that they love Unusual You.

    It never crosses their membranes who the song is about.

    Jordan thinks the song is about Sam, for Sam?

  44. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Jordan is still under the influence if that is true.

  45. small hands Says:

    He really thinks that? Oh geez….I think of A when I listen to it. :)

  46. doc1955 Says:

    AM how you gonna beat up Steel for X plugging and you are hella talking about BH here?

  47. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Doc. Troublemaker.

    Ronnie. Please take the Doc along next time you guys get green juice.

  48. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Yes, this doc1955 appears to be a trouble maker.

    In fact, I think he or she may be yoyobrit!!!!

    LOL

  49. Amethyst Mine Says:

    LOL.

    Speaking of X, we all know they lie,

    “You may know Johnny Wright from P. Diddy’s Making the Band and as the “former manager” who sued Brit last year for allegedly breaking her contract with him in 2003.”

    I wonder that X wants people to believe this rather than to have people follow the money trail as Johnny tries to get his “sunset” payments.

  50. doc1955 Says:

    lol omg

  51. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 13th, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    I wonder that X wants people to believe this rather than to have people follow the money trail as Johnny tries to get his “sunset” payments.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I saw that they had wrote that!

    It’ll be interesting to see, when the WEG suit is finally over and done with, just what comes out of it in terms of where the alleged $60 million (or so) disappeared to in the course of a year.

    I haven’t seen any other media outlets report on the details of that suit – or mention the $17 million audit against Jive that Adam Streisand brought up this time last year.

  52. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    C’mon, doc. I thought we need more scandal. Dirty, filthy, nasty secrets!

  53. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I must say that Navarre was not the least bit contrite in talking about Sam on the Atlantic links MH posted. There’d be no reason for their relationship to end. Sam liked calling and talking to her.

  54. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Tell us a secret, Doc.

  55. MH Says:

    Ok, since we can’t get any juicy truths, lets just start rumors LOL

    Brit slept with her media manager, that’s why they are searching for a new one!
    OMG!
    NO!
    She didn’t!
    How could she!
    Shame on her!
    She must be crazy!

  56. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I love it MH.

  57. Amethyst Mine Says:

    If not delicious scandal how about opinion? So X shows six minutes of their helicopter flying over what might be Brit’s new house.

    They show a white van moving slowly down the street, with them. They show three vehicles and a couple of guys outside their cars, including the white van, holding their arms up to the chopper at the end. Was this a practice shoot? A chopper must be expensive and X has already proved they can shoot from choppers.

    What’s the message? Is it a threat? We can stir some scandal.

  58. Ronnie Says:

    Hey everyone, we’re going to have the director of Giving It Up on line in a short while. This will be your time to ask him questions if you’d like. Let me know when you guys are available and I’ll set it up!

  59. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Now? today? Cool. People are around we’re just quiet.

  60. Ronnie Says:

    Not now, but in a bit. Frank’s hanging out in Palm Springs til the second screening on Thursday so we thought we’d put him to use.

  61. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I would like to hedge around Steel’s schedule. It would probably would be probably be the most meaningful to her.

    Thanks, Ronnie, for putting this together.

  62. Amethyst Mine Says:

    As a documentarian, I mean. Sorry for the extra words above.

  63. gigi Says:

    I’ll be in and out. Maybe I can catch it. I’ll have to kick the kids off the home computer. Everytime I do that they think A is coming. lol I have them programed to get off my dang computer when A is on.

  64. Ronnie Says:

    OK, sorry for the long delay. Had to do some running around. I’ve spoken to Frank, he’s at a screening in Palm Springs right now but we’ll see if we can get him to come on in about 1 1/2 hours or so.

  65. Amethyst Mine Says:

    You mean like now? eep — where is Steel?

  66. Amethyst Mine Says:

    7′ish then MST or PST. The clock on this board throws me.

  67. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I’m here, but I’m on an old ‘puter with a slooooow Internet connection.

    Did I miss Frank? I always seem to miss A when he’s here, so it would be typical of me to miss Frank, too!

  68. Amethyst Mine Says:

    No you didn’t miss him, but I was preparing a few questions in case you didn’t show. Any way you can get off the slow connection?

    I hope they don’t go off to dinner and forget us.

  69. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Nope, I’m stuck with the slow connection. I’m actually snowed in another city! I’ll keep checking back in.

  70. gigi Says:

    I’m still checking in and out. I hope I’m home when he comes in. If not I’ll check it out later.

  71. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Should we post any questions now? I worry about Steel being snowed in with a slow connection, and about your kids (or spouse!) not understanding about Frank, Gigi. :)

  72. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Here are some questions for Frank, just in case:

    1/ Where did you get the idea to make this doc?

    2/ How did you come to start making documentaries?

    3/ Why pick docs over dramas?

    4/ What did you shoot the film on? Film? HD? DV?

    5/ What were the biggest challenges?

    6/ How well did you come to know your subjects?

    There’s some to start…

  73. Ronnie Says:

    Hold off, I think I see Frank online. I’m going to create a new thread in a few minutes.

  74. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Some more questions…

    7/ Who are your inspirations when it comes to making docs? Favourite films?

    8/ What did you find the most unexpected about the pap world?

    9/ How has the pap world changed between when you shot the film and present day?

    10/ Where can we expect to see this film after Palm Springs is over? Any other festivals? Any confirmed broadcasters?

  75. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Okay, I’ll copy and paste. :)

  76. Amethyst Mine Says:

    yippee!

    Steel. I hope he picks the most unusual questions to answer.

  77. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I could come up with more creative ones than that. Those are just the basics. LOL

  78. Ronnie Says:

    OK, i’m about 1 minute away from a new post. So everyone go there to talk to Frank. He should be in the comments section about a minute after the story goes live.

  79. Amethyst Mine Says:

    It’s up guys. Just waiting for Mr. Ruy. :)

  80. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Shall we take over the new Heroes thread?

    jfxonline.com/jfxonline/2009/01/14/zacharys-all-wet/

  81. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Steel. You still snowed in?

    I was thinking that if Allie was an assistant then maybe Sam was too? That might explain why he knew doormen, bouncers.

    Based on footage of Alli, it seems the assistant goes out first, gets the car or the driver, or sees to getting in to places.

    And they would most often be out of camera shots or shots that we would see.

    Who cares? It’s just more of the story.

  82. MH Says:

    funny animated pap vid half-way down page on left…and a couple others.

    myspace.com/fernandosalas

  83. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, I’m back to my hi-speed now.

    As for “assistants,” I always kind of thought that that’s exactly what Sam was. Well, more of a “life coach,” who wanted the coveted spot of being her manager??

  84. gigi Says:

    Yeah high speed is much better than slow speed anyday.

  85. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Thanks, MH. I will check it out.

    Yes Steel, Sam did pose himself as her life coach, manager, father, brother, lover, but I am still sleuthing how he got into the circle and where he is now.

    It’s just a story but it’s also the truth, and while I am happy for Brit and her move, I find learning about Sam more interesting.

  86. MH Says:

    x17online.com/gallery/view_gallery.php?gallery=BSpearsCarMom011309_X17&index=9

    hmmmm a phone? is all cool or is mama spears gonna get an ear full from the grits maker.

    yawn.

  87. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Is Lynne reaching for it or handing it to her?

    yawn

    Come on JFX. Stir up something.

    MH we missed you last night, or I did.

    I wonder what you would have asked.

  88. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 14th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    I am still sleuthing how he got into the circle and where he is now.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I still say it was the drug connection. I think he knew something about the “evidence” that was supposedly planted at her house, told her, and gain her confidence that way (alienating Ma in the process).

    But that’s just a…hunch.

  89. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I see Jordan just posted a JFX photo at BH. The one of her smiling in the car. Nice.

  90. MH Says:

    hmmm…tour starts in 7 weeks…not much dance practice going on.

  91. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Anyone going online tonight? I will try. I always get confused about the time zone. Is it 8 p.m. central, eastern?

    Should we ask about the phone? lol

  92. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Yes, Jordan seems to have turned a leaf on JFX. Britneyexperts also had a direct link back to JFX.

    Maybe X was shopping their own version overlong.

    Maybe the dancers are going to Britney’s house? Or she gets one on one and meanwhile has a standin to dance with the others at the studio?

    Do you think Dad had anything to do with the lack of more interesting sexual moves in the European tour? I still think Brit had the most fun in France. She loved the audience.

  93. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I think Sam was like a go-to guy. He could get drugs, he knew (knows) alot of people, whatever you wanted, he probably knew someone.

    He was probably alot of fun, initially.

    “I personally know Sam Lutfi and he is a master manipulator, he almost made my good friend Danny Haines kill himself.

    I just want to get a message to Britney to warn her of Sam’s real intentions.”

    Ken Dungey
    December 2007

  94. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Didn’t Danny or Ken say somewhere that Lutfi came into Britney’s life at about the same time that Ken filed for a RSO?

    07NL02915 HAINES VS LUTFI PETITIONS – OTHER 03/29/2007 CIVIL – LIMITED

    Participants
    Name Type Assoc Start Date End Date
    DANIEL HAINES PLAINTIFF 03/29/2007
    OSAMA LUTFI DEFENDANT 03/29/2007

    Proof of service was filed 4/21/07. Sam fought it? But all was ordered by the 25th? All was quiet until NOTICE – OTHER (NOTICE OF UNDOCUMENTED ACTION) WAS FILED ON 10/04/2007 10/04/2007

    That’s all there is available online at no cost.

    Steel. How do you like the timeline?

  95. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Yep, looks like it fits. What date was she released from rehab again?

  96. Amethyst Mine Says:

    She was free March 21, 2007?

    And then the second set of rumors for rehab began to come out Oct 4, 2007?

    I did a quick surf and it looks like OK Mag was reporting it and others were quoting them Oct 4?

    OK Mag is tricky business. Remember they decided to run the story on Britney and the photo shoot?

  97. Amethyst Mine Says:

    If I were to look at old videos, what would be a good time to scout for Sam? I’m looking for a celeb he might have been around, so as to “meet” Alli but who knows. Maybe they were friends for years?

    What does a hanger on or assistant do once they get inside Villa or Kao?

  98. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Was Sam from Ventura County?

  99. Amethyst Mine Says:

    “Sam also vandalized a older women’s new car at Costco last year because she took his parking spot. Sam took a pair of pliers and destroyed her vehicle. They could not find him because his Mercedes S500 was new and had no license plates yet.”

    Sam drove a Mercedes?

  100. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 14th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    OK Mag is tricky business. Remember they decided to run the story on Britney and the photo shoot?

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Yes, but they went with the *nice* version of the story. From what I understand, Ma heard about the goings-on during the shoot, and asked them to “play nice” in return for the rights to Jamie Lynn’s first baby photos.

    OK! probably could’ve run a story that was a LOT worse…They likely had some pretty bad photos (e.g. of the chicken grease on the dress) that they could’ve run, but didn’t??

  101. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 14th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    If I were to look at old videos, what would be a good time to scout for Sam? I’m looking for a celeb he might have been around, so as to “meet” Alli but who knows. Maybe they were friends for years?

    —> I figured they’d ran in the same crowd for years. Not necessarily besties, but just knew and recognized each other. Just like the bar scene in…your hometown?

    What does a hanger on or assistant do once they get inside Villa or Kao?

    —> Schmooze? Get sh*t faced?

  102. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 14th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    Sam drove a Mercedes?

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I thought that he was from a monied family? That his mom owned gas stations?

  103. MH Says:

    >>>From what I understand, Ma heard about the goings-on during the shoot, and asked them to “play nice” in return for the rights to Jamie Lynn’s first baby photos.

    she wasn’t even pregnant at the time of the shoot, was she?

  104. MH Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:

    >>>Maybe the dancers are going to Britney’s house? Or she gets one on one and meanwhile has a standin to dance with the others at the studio?

    dancers at the house lol no.

    >>>Do you think Dad had anything to do with the lack of more interesting sexual moves in the European tour?

    she was naked in the womanizer vid…i don’t think sexy dances moves would be a big deal compared to the vid. she’s not ready, that’s why her dancing was boring.
    tour? lol she did a few promo shows.

    >>>I still think Brit had the most fun in France. She loved the audience.

    i didn’t see much enjoyment at any of the shows. she was blah walking around the stage. the few things she did do where not impressive, exciting, interesting or ….. whatever.

    if her tour is anything like her recent performances i feel sorry for the audience. if fans just want to be in her presence, then fine, but i wouldn’t waste my money. i would never pay money, or go for free for that matter, to see any one lip sync. i know a lot of people do it, but it’s not the kinda show i wanna see/hear. full on dancing for 2 hours and singing at the same time is a difficult task, hence the lip sync. but she wasn’t even really dancing, so why not sing. i guess the bands i see don’t do a lot of dancing, if any, so that’s one reason i haven’t come across it. i like bands that write most if not all of their own music, sing live and put on a kick ass show.

  105. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    MH Says:
    January 14th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    she wasn’t even pregnant at the time of the shoot, was she?

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Shoot, no. That didn’t come until around December. What was the “deal” I’m thinking of then? I gotta go Google…LOL

  106. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Maybe I was just thinking of stories like this?

    aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00013104.html

    I could’ve sworn that I’d read there was a “deal” somewhere…

  107. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Okay, I’m Googling and finding nothing. Maybe I just ASSumed there was a deal somewhere, since OK! seemed to land a number of “scoops” after that.

  108. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Um. Sam is NOT from a monied family. I will eat paper if that is true.

    I think I could cross-prove. They had “a” gas station. I haven’t looked into it for awhile nor into his family.

    X promoted the idea of the “new cutie” as having money and answers. It never came up again after that first intro by X.

    mw, if you didn’t visit elsewhere tonight, there is no book coming from ih. I didn’t get details. Maybe another time. But he said that he wasn’t publishing his book until Brit prints her’s.

    What the heck? I’m sorry but to me the book might have helped Britney.

    i also said that Jamie has been made Adnan persona non grata, has “badmouthed” Adnan to Britney and has a 50 foot parameter of her.

    This latter part could be street talk. The lack of a book (that might have helped Britney? or no?) is not.

    ok MH, you are right about the sex moves but I doubt Daddy was around for the inside of that shoot just like no one was around when RS photo’d Brit in her underwear.

    The preview of Britney doing Mannequin was better than the choreography for Europe, imho.

    MH if you watch Britney after her performance in France, she peeked a few times at the audience. The audience would go wild and Britney was happy and feeling it.

    Finally, a little independence from those around her? Finally love?

    two cents —

    she loved it and it was fun.

    Steel. A wealthy man doesn’t steal $18K, especially in the way that Sam did, from Danny Haines.

  109. Amethyst Mine Says:

    LOL I mean if it’s true that Sam grew up with money and had it available to him in the past five years.

  110. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Maybe he was using the $18K to lease his Mercedes?

    Also, if he came into B’s life at the end of March, would that mean he became acquainted with Lynn first, or B?

    My head is starting to get so full of info on this (or so much time has gone by) that I’m just simply starting to loose track…

  111. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 14th, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    mw, if you didn’t visit elsewhere tonight, there is no book coming from ih. I didn’t get details. Maybe another time. But he said that he wasn’t publishing his book until Brit prints her’s.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Hmmmm…Wonder what made him change his mind??

  112. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Yeah, me too and I will ask next time. I was respectful because three or four weeks ago he said he couldn’t talk about the book until it was published.

    sooo…. the change came in the past month? The past few weeks? c-ship? Threats?

    SCANDAL. Just teasing. It’s really not a laughing matter but it is interesting to speculate.

    I’ll/we’ll have to think of a way to ask the question that he can comment on, and reveal what went down?

  113. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I just feel like saying shyt, shyt shyt!

    Was he somehow convinced (outside of threats) that this was the best for her? It hard to see i cooperate or believe that way.

    I also says I am right about this, in context to putting A at a 50 foot parameter, ‘So is it about image? Is it about the album? No one seems to answer but a single, sexually available celeb would sell better than one with a paparazzo boyfriend?’

    “You got it,” ih wrote.

    I think Steel there is a level of street talk and even ih doesn’t know but he has more experience than either of us so…

  114. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I miss Mark. He too would leave out words and do misspells.

    It should have read “ih also says I am right about this…”

  115. MH Says:

    >>>Threats?

    Not a chance. If he didn’t back down to the Scientology machine, he’s certainly not gonna worry about the Spears machine.

  116. MH Says:

    What’s this about 50 feet?

  117. small hands Says:

    Hey, I know I haven’t been posting, but I have been reading.
    Keep talking…. :)

  118. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 14th, 2009 at 11:35 pm Um.

    The preview of Britney doing Mannequin was better than the choreography for Europe, imho.

    MH if you watch Britney after her performance in France, she peeked a few times at the audience. The audience would go wild and Britney was happy and feeling it.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I thought that, too – that the dancing had actually gotten WORSE between the practice footage and the actual performances.

    And I also noticed that she interacted with the audience and kind of “lit up” a few times when dancing specifically for them. It made me think she either, a) didn’t like performing on a stage just for the cameras, or b) was purposely performing with a “dead” look to send a message, but was still trying to let her fans know she appreciated them.

  119. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I should add that those times that she “lit up” only lasted a couple of seconds. As in, if you blinked, you would miss it.

  120. Amethyst Mine Says:

    As for Lynne or B? I am ASSuming he was in touch with Alli first and she told him she was a long distance cousin of Brit?

    Oh I don’t know. How does one plug Michael Sands, Sam, and Puny into that configuration?

    We have still not answered where Sam got his many phone numbers.

    (Steel, I wrote this last night but did not send – I hope it is still in context)

  121. Amethyst Mine Says:

    MH here is where 50 feet came from.

    Guest, “why can’t she see adnan?”

    IH, “Adnan is persona non grata, Jamie made sure of that”

    Guest, “why”

    Me: “So is it about image? Is it about the album? No one seems to answer but a single, sexually available celeb would sell better than one with a paparazzo boyfriend?”

    IH, “you got it”

    Me: “How did Jamie ensure Adnan would become persona non grata?”

    IH, “he badmouthed him to Brit and basically had him barred within 50 feet of her”

    (I had to reorder some of the transcript but these are verbatim quotes)

    Good point MH about the Scientologists. We’ll have to ask another time about waiting for Britney to write her book … I have to wonder if that was code…I don’t know. Maybe he meant until she was free.

    IH does not seem to mind the questions. He has met Adnan but what does that mean? They shook hands? IH said he didn’t think Adnan would have known who he was.

  122. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, That makes sense.

    Alli is already part of the family (kinda), brags to Sam about it when she sees him out at clubs or parties (or doing whatever they do together), and then he tries to worm his way in once Alli and B start hanging together when B starts hitting the club scene after her divorce.

    Maybe Sam got his numbers from Alli? For all we know, Alli could’ve been MUCH closer to the family prior to Dec ‘06 than Ma is letting on.

    Sands sounds like he was hired by Kaplan to do media relations…No secrets there, is there?

    And Puny…Well…Ummm…

    Ever wonder why Pa always sticks up for Larry? It might be interesting to see how far back their “investment” relationship goes.

    Pa & Larry. Larry & Maloofs. Business opportunities galore.

  123. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 15th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    IH does not seem to mind the questions. He has met Adnan but what does that mean? They shook hands? IH said he didn’t think Adnan would have known who he was.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I’ve always wondered how IH got away with supposedly following her for 18 months (is that right?) without the other paps catching on.

    I’m wondering if he’s less afraid of exposing the Spears as he is exposing the paps. Perhaps he’s…re-thought…whether the book would advance his career or not? Maybe he’d rather continue to exist in H-wood and co-operated WITH the paps than make them look bad?? (’Cause I seem to remember his initial statements on the book making it sound like he was “exposing” the pap world around Brit and the way she was being taken advantage of.)

  124. Amethyst Mine Says:

    ok, let’s see how we have done in a year of learning about the tabloid world. Based on the transcript (MH who wasn’t it that said Adnan was a sponge on the IH board? Maybe it wasn’t sponge but it wasn’t very nice — was IH the speaker?) Ian has inside information.

    So why doesn’t he write the story and post it to his blog?

    I mean if he says he can’t comment on the book due to his contract, but he comments as he did in the transcript, then doesn’t he have a story? One that could help TA? Or would it hurt TA? Would it help Britney?

    Speculate?

  125. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Anything about Jamie, Adnan, and Britney’s sex life is juicy to tabloids. Remember the Pa bans Britney from having sex for six months stories? I wonder where those ones came from?

    Do you get my thinking though? IH and others have this juicy tidbit about Pa badmouthing Adnan etc. Sam tried to do that do and Britney was susceptible if held in isolation, sleep deprived and drugged.

    Sam wanted her to believe that Adnan was gay. I guess that’s the best he could come up with, “He doesn’t love you. He’s using you. He’s gay.”

    This is all so FOOBAR!

  126. MH Says:

    parasite. it was a female, don’t remember where she was from.

  127. MH Says:

    take the emotion and rationalization out of why the book is on hold. go back a couple, few months and remember what he said the reasoning was.

  128. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Ugh, a quick Google search of IH and Brit tells me his book is NOT going to help make her look any better.

    It’s honestly been so long since all of this stuff took place that my mind is just turning to Jell-o. It’s all starting to lump together into one congealed blob of information. The real facts, the gossip and my own theories are all starting to mix and it’s…not pretty. Or pretty boring. One or the other.

  129. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I should maybe clarify my comments at 1:53 pm. I don’t think IH is “afraid” of the paps…so much as…okay…

    He said this was going to be the first YouTube compatible book. And my comments apply to THAT. Not so much the book, but the footage to accompany the book.

    I’m still not finding anything on why the book was initially delayed. AM, I’ll leave that up to you.

  130. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    A clarification on my clarification…LOL!

    We’ve seen, after watching what happened to A, how the media/paps can be used to damage a person’s credibility, etc.

    If I was IH, I may be concerned with that.

  131. Amethyst Mine Says:

    MH, I do often think about you and the comment you made .. many months ago, to keep the emotion out of it.

    Brit said in FTR that she might write a book but I didn’t feel that she would. It seemed she was just putting it out there.

    As for when the book was first delayed, I don’t remember Ian saying that it was delayed, only that the story about his book had been leaked?

    What bothered me about the leak was that it was close to one of the c-ship court hearings where Britney might have been freed.

    What I remember around one of those critical dates were rumors that Britney had had sex at 14 according to Lynne’s book. There was a sex tape out there with A. and that B had tried to kill herself (3 times the first tabloid cycle then was it 6 during the next tabloid cycle?)

    MH, did I miss something? Should I go back and review interviews he did after the leak?

    Steel. I think Ian said he was exposing the vultures around Britney, from Lynne to Pa, Sam and others. I don’t think he pinpointed the paps as the vultures for this book. If that was the focus of his story, who would publish it?

  132. small hands Says:

    Steel_Magnolia Says:
    January 15th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
    For all we know, Alli could’ve been MUCH closer to the family prior to Dec ‘06 than Ma is letting on.
    —————
    Believe me when I say the Spears family have known Alli for quite awhile. There were pics of Alli, Britney, and Laura Lynn soon after her break-up with Justin…when was that 2002?? Forgot the date. This is why I believe NOTHING that comes out of Ma Spears mouth…NOTHING. To me she says whatever will make herself look best. Just my opinion.

  133. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 15th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    I think Ian said he was exposing the vultures around Britney, from Lynne to Pa, Sam and others. I don’t think he pinpointed the paps as the vultures for this book. If that was the focus of his story, who would publish it?

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I got the impression his book and accompanying YouTube videos were created from the viewpoint of an undercover pap. During those 18 months, her family had very little contact with her. Her world appeared to revolve around Sam and her relationship with the paps. So I had gotten the impression that it was going to be an expose on the pap world as much as anything.

    As far as who would publish it…

    Who would watch a doc on a bunch of “gangbanger” paparazzi who traded their Nines for Nikons? There’s an interest in the pap world. The boys at JFX may be entertaining, but there’s also a very seedy side to it. Think of the relationship of Sam and X, of selling insider information, of “set-up” photo ops, of fist-fights between photogs who are battling to get the shot, etc.

    If that’s what his book is about, I’ll be the first in line to read it.

  134. small hands Says:

    MH…Do you think Britney believes the things Pa says about Adnan? I really hope she doesn’t. To me, A could have said plenty about everything surrounding Britney, but he hasn’t. To me that shows someone who actually cares about the person who is Britney and not the star.

  135. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Actually, if IH started trailing Brit in November 2006, he would’ve been there for the divorce announcement, rehab (x3), Lynn’s relationship with Sam (maybe), and the whole rest of the story.

    AM, I think IH could probably answer all the questions we’ve been asking here. And more.

  136. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 15th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    Brit said in FTR that she might write a book but I didn’t feel that she would. It seemed she was just putting it out there.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    popcrunch.com/sam-lutfi-britney-spears-tell-all-confirmed-sam-lutfi-confirms-britney-spears-tell-all-book/

    Wouldn’t it be interesting if there already was one in the works?

    Yes, it did seem like she was just joking around when she said she’d like to write a “mysterious” book. It would be great to hear it right from the horse’s mouth.

  137. Amethyst Mine Says:

    # Steel_Magnolia Says:
    January 15th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    AM, I think IH could probably answer all the questions we’ve been asking here. And more.

    ———-

    So join next time?

    I’ve been two times that I recollect. I wasn’t there when MH was.

    One problem with his format is “they” are spilling and gossiping in the beginning, rather than allowing we the public to interview. We do get a chance though.

    I was lucky this time to have two of us asking questions about A, B and J.

    We can generate interest, learn a few things, and not let what is good about Adnan fade. Something like that. I hate that the tabloids have been winning and winning just like K-Fed and the court. Am I being fair?

    Neither A nor B nor even JFX can or will really talk but we can and besides we’ve been bored or is it cranked and screwed?

    Ian doesn’t know everything Steel. He had little knowledge or interest re WEG. I spilled what I could because he asked. He is interested in the continuing story overall I believe. I would hope so given the tedium in writing a book.

    p.s. yes Steel, of course he will show the world of the paps but they are not the major vultures Ian planned to expose. They are just a part of it.

    MH. Did IH say anything the night you were there about delaying his book?

    I need to ask IH where his loyalties lean. I intro’d myself as Team Adnan, not a rep or employee, just on that side. He answered, “Cool.”

    I have an avatar so no one can steal my name. small, were you there last night?

  138. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, I didn’t clue in to who you were referring to the last time you mentioned going “on-line,” or I might have dropped in. I’ll try next time.

    The stuff on the WEG suit seems to only really be mentioned here. So far, anyways.

    I wonder how many entertainment reporters are out there that have a legal background? It really doesn’t seem like there’s enough!

  139. gigi Says:

    crap. i’m flying tomorrow and there is a plane down in the Hudson River. Crap I hate flying.

  140. Amethyst Mine Says:

    G. Next time get Xanax. It’s not a whoopie drug at least not in the dose I got.

    I tried it this Christmas and suffered less from the flying. I didn’t sigh once. It was humane for both myself and my husband.

    end plug LOL

  141. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Steel. At the risk of .. I am not going back to that thread. That person wasn’t you weeks back? She LOVED Madonna and was fast and clever like you. It was too funny. It had to be you.

    Oh you mean the meaning of “online” on this thread. Sorry to have been cryptic but I figured you’d get it last night.

  142. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Heh, I’m fast and clever?

  143. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Sorry, that made me imagine me as the Roadrunner. My head on the Roadrunner’s body?! LOL

    Yep, that was me a few weeks back. But for some reason I didn’t clue in last night (or whenever you mentioned it.) I went over to the official BS site to see if there was some sort of chat!

    I’ve been wandering around aimlessly without my editing suite…my mind’s in a different world right now, I think.

  144. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    On that note, I’m making the drive again to go pick it up. Hopefully I won’t get stuck in another snow storm and wind up with slow-speed Internet again.

    I’m off…!!

  145. Amethyst Mine Says:

    yippee for you Steel — I hope you get your editing suite back.

    Like you, I took care of a few things today. Documents in particular.

    I never thought of you as Road Runner (what a funny image) but to me you are fast and clever.

    OK next time we will have our questions and try for more answers? And yes, you bet I respect IH’s board and guests and the fact I am a guest.

    I think it is a win win. We are lively informed people, may ask interesting questions, and add to IH’s numbers, and maybe his own entertainment and knowledge.

    Who wouldn’t want us? LOL.

    I have a dream. The bull is walking. This is the year of the bull. Check you Chinese calendars or talk to someone Chinese. The prophecy is that the bull is walking. People are moving around.

  146. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I am not Chinese. A Chinese employee at Walmart engaged me and told me about the prophecy. Normally I am friendly and chatty but not that day so I was surprised he engaged me.

    My dream is that there be some positive publicity cycle for Adnan that Adnan has nothing to do with and can not be accused. My dream is is that she will be able to see him and few can cast stones.

  147. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Wanna hear a sad story?

    I just drove an hour to pick up my computer. When I got there, the store had already closed.

    So I got myself some McDonald’s for the hour ride home. I had eaten my entire Chicken McGrill combo before realizing that the huge piece of lettuce had fallen out of the sandwich.

    …And had landed mayo-side down on my leg.

    So I guess I’ll be off to get my computer tomorrow?!

  148. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    So much for fast and clever.

  149. Amethyst Mine Says:

    LOL have you guys checked out any of the tabloids this week? They are reinventing stories created out of getting “too much” Britney news. LOL

    I wonder how many careers and news desks were bent on If You Seek Amy news. I am sure they were dependent on it.

    What do you guys think of the void in news? Is someone listening, finally? Are we done for a little while of Britney being paraded around with Coke cans and Vitamin water? Just asking. Did someone finally listen to her saying she just wanted one day off?

    The news about Britney is no news. Someone should run with that and be a hero. ha Or maybe we have an Edith Wharton “Age of Innocence” and one rather large conspiracy. Got to go.

  150. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    www DOT maniacworld.com/are-you-going-to-finish-strong.html

  151. MH Says:

    Harvard lol ok
    thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=526129

  152. MH Says:

    am, this is a new jane doe article. i didn’t read it, but thought you might want to.

    latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-ledger16-2009jan16,0,6189279.story

  153. small hands Says:

    AM—was I where last night? I’m not following. I don’t know what site this IH is at. I’m completely clueless.

  154. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    From the Jane Doe article:

    “Ledger’s death changed the way everyone involved saw the evening. The reporter contributed her memories to a cover story in OK magazine, where she was quoted as an unnamed source with firsthand experience of Ledger’s drug use. She billed the magazine her $400 day rate, according to court papers. Soon after, Splash offered the tape for sale…”

    and

    “Parts of the suit read like a workplace drama set in the sometimes glamorous and often unseemly industry of celebrity gossip. The reporter crossed paths with the paparazzi involved while chasing tabloid stories including Britney Spears’ divorce and the birth of Gwen Stefani’s child, and had struck up a romance with Darren Banks, a Splash photographer. When People magazine assigned her to cover SAG after-parties at the Chateau Marmont, she rented a room and invited Banks.”

    Interesting.

  155. Amethyst Mine Says:

    How about fast, clever, and comic?

    You guys were busy. Thanks for the links.

    small, you will have to rack your brain, and don’t put it here when you have the answer.

    Clue. Ama traditionally says, “Who?” when we bring IH up. Followers of our board, friend or foe, will know what we mean.

  156. Amethyst Mine Says:

    What became of People magazine in the case?

  157. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 16th, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    What became of People magazine in the case?

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I don’t know about People, but that article just revealed something new concerning OK!

    Now think how it might relate to:

    Steel_Magnolia Says:
    January 14th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    The Puny man and Jane Doe…K.I.S.S.I.N.G….

    ??

  158. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, Watch for “unnamed sources” in articles like this:

    people.com/people/article/0,,20013339,00.html

    It’s also interesting to click on the link in that article called, “Returned Thursday Night,” and see where it takes you. There’s an article about the “emergency hearing” that uses intriguing wording.

  159. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I never thought of it this way until now, but Jane isn’t always the author of the article. Jane can also be the “unnamed source.” Hmmm.

  160. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Is this the quote?

    “According to a friend of the star, Heath was severely depressed following the August split from former girlfriend Michelle Williams, with whom he has a 2-year-old daughter, Matilda. “He frequently seemed comatose and out of it,” the friend tells OK!. “Heath had serious problems with drugs, including cocaine and heroin.”

    However, adds the friend, Heath had been trying to stay sober in recent months. “At a party in December, he was doing his best to avoid people doing drugs,” explains the friend. “But that didn’t seem to work, as he was spotted partaking later in the night.”

    ok-magazine.com/posts/view/3998/
    January 2008

    Ronnie had a very good post on how Heath’s death was covered. It included credit to TMZ for retracting their original story on what was found in the apartment. It took a slam at less responsible tabloids for snowballing the story. It then led to, the tabloids and Adnan and I think Ronnie stated, “There is no sex tape.”

  161. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I’ll take a peek. I never thought of Jane as being an unnamed source either.

    I am waiting for Gigi’s flight to arrive. I can’t believe she doesn’t want to try an enchilada with an egg on top New Mexican style.

    shaking my head LOL I wonder if I can talk her into a Corona.

  162. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, I was referring to “unnamed sources” in articles about B.

    Punyman tells Jane.
    Jane tells the media outlet.
    Jane becomes the “unnamed source” in the story.

    Puny and Jane, working together to influence the course of the custody trial.

  163. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Same idea as with HL. Same Jane.

  164. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I think I get your drift. Jane didn’t have to write anything. She just had to be a source.

    I saw the other night, with three tabloid folks in that online room, spilling and getting scoop from each other.

    With the ease of one sentence, Jolie becomes a slut who is never monogamous.

    With the ease of another sentence (and this is all in conversation while they pat each other’s backs about how good they all are on scoop) Jennifer Anniston can now be set up as a lesbian because she has never really liked or trusted men.

    “inside source” now has …a different meaning.

    What power. K I S S I N G for $400/day or for one spill? Wasn’t there an “inside source” on coverage claiming Britney had done a lap dance on Tony Roma? That was right before a court date.

  165. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Any idea which People articles were brought up during the custody trial?

    How about any stories by OK?

    I’d maybe take a guess that the damaging lines from the articles – the lines that swayed the judge and ended up with her losing custody of the boys – may have been contributed by an “unnamed source.”

    By Jane.

    Maybe.

  166. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 16th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    What power. K I S S I N G for $400/day or for one spill?

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    And where does the info come from?

    From Puny.

  167. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 16th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Wasn’t there an “inside source” on coverage claiming Britney had done a lap dance on Tony Roma? That was right before a court date.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I would hope that a mother wouldn’t lose custody of her children due to a lap dance. But I could understand that she just might lose them if she was found to be a “frequent and habitual” user of drugs.

  168. MH Says:

    >>>Puny and Jane, working together to influence the course of the custody trial.

    and they would want to influence the course or the custody trial because…?

    come on girls, how many times can you run a truck into a ditch.

  169. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Here’s a question for MT…

    When it comes to B…

    We’ve been told that Jane is the same Jane from the HL case. That’s the connection.

    But we now have three chess boards going. The Jane board, the C-Ship board, and the new board (the Tour board?)

    Is Puny the same in all three?

  170. MH Says:

    small hands Says:
    January 15th, 2009 at 3:36 pm MH…Do you think Britney believes the things Pa says about Adnan?

    well, since none of us know what he may of said there is no way of knowing. but if i had to guess, i would say yes AND no.

  171. MH Says:

    what i would love to know is…what did sam whisper in adnan’s ear that caused him to leave right away?

  172. Amethyst Mine Says:

    MH thanks again for the story. Steel — I missed that there was more to the article and thought you had another source.

    Check out the background of the reporter. She makes my wheels spin a bit.

    latimesblogs.latimes.com/readers/2008/06/harriet-ryan-jo.html

  173. Amethyst Mine Says:

    # MH Says:
    January 16th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    what i would love to know is…what did sam whisper in adnan’s ear that caused him to leave right away?

    ————–

    Me too.

    As to the truck and ditches? What was the ultimate goal of driving Britney crazy, or getting her to commit suicide, or to lock her up for a long long time?

    Or. Who made the most money off of her in 2007?

    Steel. I got the impression from MT that Jane was no longer actively on the case and that she is on a new chess board.

    Or .. I don’t know if this is connected but,

    “”Munn and Banks still work for Splash, but the reporter no longer writes for People. Her attorney declined to say what she is doing now.

    “My client wishes to have privacy. This is not a good thing to have happen to you,” the lawyer, Neville Johnson, said.”"

    p.s. Britney never did a lap dance on Roma but if you believed she did, what would else would you believe, “Britney was out partying again. She’s getting out of hand. Last night she did a lap dance on Tony Roma, a married man.” At least I think he was married at the time.

  174. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Here is Ronnie’s post:

    jfxonline.com/page/5/?s=”heath ledger”&x=0&y=0

  175. Amethyst Mine Says:

    MH, maybe I didn’t understand your meaning about trucks and ditches?

  176. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Set me straight. If MT’s proposal re Jane is valid.. It might be good to first list the more “credible” tabloids such as People and OK (are they, were they?) then maybe look for article detrimental to Brit? Look there for the inside source?

    MT, if you do come along, a hint please as to where to look for a picture?

  177. MH Says:

    If you knew that all of this sleuthing was making things rougher for her would you keep doing it?

  178. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 16th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    I got the impression from MT that Jane was no longer actively on the case and that she is on a new chess board.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I never really thought Jane mattered to begin with. She was just a tool. It was Puny that was doing the damage.

    Jane was just doing her job. Puny was the one with the crooked agenda.

  179. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 16th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    MH, maybe I didn’t understand your meaning about trucks and ditches?

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    No, you certainly didn’t understand her meaning.

  180. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 16th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    Set me straight. If MT’s proposal re Jane is valid.. It might be good to first list the more “credible” tabloids such as People and OK (are they, were they?) then maybe look for article detrimental to Brit? Look there for the inside source?

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    AM, It’s too late to stop the damage that was done by Jane and Puny (if it was done at all). It’s three boards back. Nothing we can do.

    I’m interested because it helps me to understand how we got to the present day. It’s an intriguing story. But that’s all.

    What’s going on in the present is much more interesting. A tour, with someone who appears to be “doing it by the numbers.” I can’t wait to see how THIS is all gonna pan out.

  181. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 16th, 2009 at 2:49 pm # MH Says:
    January 16th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
    what i would love to know is…what did sam whisper in adnan’s ear that caused him to leave right away?
    ————–
    Me too.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    AM, I think you missed the tone here as well.

    IMHO…Or whatever the little code is.

  182. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I missed a tone?

    mw, I think if all this sleuthing were going to hurt her, Ronnie would have sent me an email, or said something to us here. MH, I would not put my energies into something knowing it would hurt Britney.

    G and I had a great lunch together. Unfortunately I asked for the single enchilada which sadly did not come with a runny egg.

  183. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Hey all. Ronnie’s back.

    jfxonline.com/featured/2009/01/13/video-pap-101-best-of-worst-of-and-outtakes/

  184. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, I gotta fess up here…

    I’m kickin’ it old school when it comes to writing and stuff.

    What does “mw” and “bw” and “bb” and all these little Internet short form lingo things mean?

  185. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I was just Googling “Internet” and “lingo” and came across an article called, “Top 50 Internet Acronyms Parents Need to Know.”

    Umm…Wow…I feel OLD!!

    Or at least a little wet behind the ears…??

  186. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Maybe I am doing it wrong, Steel.

    oc — of course

    mw — meanwhile

    I don’t use many of them.

    bw – must have been btw – by the way

    bb ? brb? be right back? Did you get your computer?

    Jane is clue to how media works. I don’t mind investigating at all.

    Nothing new from Florida.

    The New Mexican food G and I had was yum and the owners were nice. Little places close in downtown Phoenix after 2 or 2:30, and they let us stay until almost 3. I didn’t know the time until we got back in the Jeep. G couldn’t join me in a Corona due to her doing the marathon.

    I also apologized for swearing but that’s me – swearing. G was cool about it. It’s not like she hasn’t heard those words before.

  187. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, I DID finally get my computer. It just cost me another $175…The darn thing better work this time!

    Jane…A clue to how media works…I see her this way as well. Just an insight into how the tabloid game is played.

    So did you and Gigi look the same as you thought each other would look??

    I’m always wondering what everyone else here looks like in real life. I guess I imagine us all as characters, all interacting with each other…or something like that.

  188. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Just to understand, from what I posted earlier about possible Jane quotes in the OK article:

    unnamed source = friend

    “According to a friend of the star,…”

    If it is Jane, I guess “unnamed source” just wasn’t floating.

  189. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Gigi and I are both on myspace and put up real pictures so yes we looked the same but I couldn’t have picked her out on the street. I just knew she’d be coming down the elevator. She recognized me before I recognized her. I was expecting someone to walk out alone (because we had discussed inviting her friends and they had said no) but she came out with friends.

    I couldn’t get out of calling her GG though which people do call her so it wasn’t a problem. It was funny bringing up “Steel” in context to Corona, or Doc, small etc. To hear your names alive and spoken … like JFX does I guess. What else are they going to call us?

    So happy you have your computer!

  190. Amethyst Mine Says:

    p.s. in the end I couldn’t accommodate her friends because I had the Jeep which doesn’t have a backseat.

    Phoenix is so crowded with chains. I had my heart set on taking G to this one place. Her friends were nice and walked across the street while we went to the New Mexican restaurant by Jeep.

  191. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Steel. Old pictures where Lycia might not have been cropped out = an event(s)?

    mw,

    “”If you bring up someone to have a chat in a room as friends, …”

    and

    “According to a friend of the star, Heath was severely depressed following the August split from former girlfriend Michelle Williams, with whom he has a 2-year-old daughter, Matilda.”

    But wait a minute. In December Michelle is noted as being at the SAG event with her breast pump and Heath talks about how teed off she’d be if she knew what he was doing?

    “I’m going to be in serious sh** with my girlfriend…we had our baby three months ago and I’m not supposed to be here.” … from the video.

    “People confined its coverage of Ledger at the SAG Awards to a mention of the breast pump Williams toted.” Court docs as relayed by Harriet Ryan.

    years, months

  192. Amethyst Mine Says:

    MH. Either I missed it or you did not offer up why IH’s book was delayed in the first place?

  193. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Well, that’s cool that you got to meet each other!

    I’ve often thought how strange it would be to meet each other in real life. Some of us come across as “real people,” and other seem like “characters” (or a combination of both), so it would be interesting to see what we’re all like outside of JFX.

    I remember the first time someone called me “Steel” on here, I couldn’t figure out who they were talking to! I had picked the name at random, after trying to come up with a name that was Britney related. I saw that one of Brit’s favourite movies was “Steel Magnolias,” and I liked that movie, too, so I just went with it on a whim. If I’d known I’d end up being called “Steel,” I don’t know if I would’ve went with it! LOL

  194. MH Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 12:53 am MH. Either I missed it or you did not offer up why IH’s book was delayed in the first place?

    it was something about needing to change the ending now that things have changed. there was more to it that i don’t remember, but it was a different tune than he’s singing now, i think.

    but when he went on tv and talked about the book things had already changed, so not sure what his motives are. when he explained it it sounded good. waiting for her book is a new reason.

    there’s something about him i just don’t trust….and at other times he seems like a good guy. but he runs his head up people asses alot…praise. that gets on my nerves after the millionth time.

    egg on enchilada…that’s a new one for me.

    the big decision of the day… go hiking at red rock or go back bed. the bed is winning so far, but i’m fighting it. lol

  195. MH Says:

    steel had the right tone about the whisper.

    but, trucks in ditches is up for interpretation.

  196. MH Says:

    light bulb moment. why not both…back to bed and hiking! sounds like a plan.

  197. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Thanks, MH. Let me know if you come to Phoenix and we can rendezvous for that off runny egg. First time I saw it I thought it was someone else’s order. It’s the New Mexican red chili sauce and the thick corn tortilla and perfectly done chicken that makes the dish.

    Steel. From first hand experience the oddity of moving to a face to face meeting is “real time observation.” I met my husband before there were graphics and we decided not to talk about what we looked like. It began as a friendship, coffee breaks for each other if you will.

    On the Internet you can’t know how someone will treat a waiter or how they tip. You don’t know if they will offer you the best piece of toast or hoard it.

    One thing not missing face to face is tone in communication. :)

    Meeting Gigi was easier than when I met my husband. I knew what she looked like. With my then future husband, I couldn’t match him to the “character” that I knew. It was like I kept looking behind his eyes or something until finally, “Oh. There you are.”

    I think ultimately we get caricatures of each other here, like now I am picturing MH with ropes and a pick for rock climbing. A caricature.

  198. Amethyst Mine Says:

    So MH, did you break out the crampons? oh. I guess you only need those for ice? Anytime you want to talk about mountain climbers I am game. Alison Hargreaves remains a hero of mine that is sort of related to this story, in her own way.

    Via some biographers, she thought she had to climb K-2, for her children and her family (um yeah and her not so nice nor self-sufficient husband).

  199. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    I think ultimately we get caricatures of each other here, like now I am picturing MH with ropes and a pick for rock climbing. A caricature.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I bet we’d all be surprised with how far off some of our caricatures are from the real person typing behind the computer. But at the same time, we probably all reveal more about ourselves than we think.

    One time someone mentioned to me that these blogs (and the Britney threads especially!) seem to be like the PostSecrets Art Project:

    postsecret.blogspot.com/

    A good observation?

  200. MH Says:

    Mr. Uli @ 3:10
    youtube.com/watch?v=1vmcPjcecqc&feature=channel

    This is interesting.
    “They were invited to celebrate with her”
    youtube.com/watch?v=J1fz1iU0tM4&feature=related

  201. small hands Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 16th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
    small, you will have to rack your brain, and don’t put it here when you have the answer.
    Clue. Ama traditionally says, “Who?” when we bring IH up. Followers of our board, friend or foe, will know what we mean.
    ————————-
    I will rack my brain but I still have no idea what you are talking about. HAHA :)

  202. MH Says:

    our boy working.
    posted 5 months ago.
    he looks young @ :33 if that’s him.
    i like the one @ 1:05
    there’s more…

    youtube.com/watch?v=-zz0MElBrBE&feature=channel_page

  203. MH Says:

    AM, I said hiking, not rock climbing.

    You have me up there climbing rocks with ropes and picks and shit, not a chance.

    I’m a ground level kinda girl.

  204. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    MH Says:
    January 18th, 2009 at 2:10

    “They were invited to celebrate with her”

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Her neighbours must really appreciate THAT, eh?

  205. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Small, I’ll give you a clue:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Halperin

    …LOL!

  206. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Sorry, AM…I’m just thinking that if others aren’t catching on, it’s just because they’ve been busy and haven’t had a chance to catch up.

    You and I do tend to post more than most…It probably causes a bit of confusion here and there, since we all seem to be at different points in different conversations. Or something?

  207. Amethyst Mine Says:

    No prob Steel. I wouldn’t want to leave small out.

    Go CARDS!

  208. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    What happened to Ama? We haven’t heard from her in…a week?!

  209. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    There’s an interesting little note on the Wiki page about Halperin, re: Rolling Stone and awards.

  210. Amethyst Mine Says:

    MH. Any excitement in your town re the Cards winning today? If not, what does team does Vegas get excited about?

    Steel. I thought you were in Vancouver until you mentioned snow.

  211. small hands Says:

    AM thank you. I will go look into it. Do I have to do more digging to find this chat you are referring to? Or forum? I’ll dig…

  212. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, I only *wish* I was in Vancouver. I’m sick and tired of all this snow!

    Plus, I always have toque head. And there’s no bigger fashion faux pas than toque head.

  213. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    This is what the weather looks like where I am right now:

    http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=QsxV49pmnL8

    Can’t wait for spring! :)

  214. Amethyst Mine Says:

    small. It’s not a forum. He usually has a chat on Wednesdays but he doesn’t have anything posted for this week yet.

    Toque head, Steel? I had to look it up. Funny to picture you with a chef-hat head. :)

  215. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I’ve got that perpetual “slapped upside the head” look from around mid-December to the end of March. LOL

  216. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Like Jordan or not, he brings up some good points.

    Britneyspears.com has been quiet.

    Meanwhile, when Brit didn’t do any live interviews or even taped outside of FTR … I was understanding but I was also buying into some hype to support the need of c-ship.

    But now… Is the brand and/or the c-ship or both afraid of what she might say? And I don’t mean as a ‘crazy’ person but as an adult human being whose dad hurts her feelings.

    It’s confusing to be in relationship where someone can be as she put it, a real asswhole, and then to be sweet.

  217. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Is that from wearing wool hats?

    I looked like Medusa in Ireland. Imagine that look. It was an updo from the humidity.

  218. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Hey, MH. Do you the date from the “interesting” invitation (I’ll believe it was from Sam until Britney says she did the inviting) was January 27, 2008?

    Britney won Best International Album, NRJ, Cannes, France, January 26, 2008.

    Nice sleuthing btw.

  219. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I need new classes. Sorry guys. It’s easy to see mistakes once I put up the post due to bold font.

  220. Amethyst Mine Says:

    LOL, that was Freudian. I start new classes tomorrow.

  221. Amethyst Mine Says:

    What is the driver talking about at 2:08? The move is getting over the move is getting over?

    Here’s the link again for convenience:

    youtube.com/watch?v=J1fz1iU0tM4&feature=related

  222. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, The wool hats get you every time. Fuzz head!!

    I was perusing what Brit was up to around January 26, 2008, and came across this:

    17online.com/celebrities/britney_spears/if_a_picture_is_worth_a_thousand_words-01282008.php#comments

    What was I saying before about OK! and little deals?

  223. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, I’m heading out for the day, but will try to check out your links the next time I fire up the old ‘puter. :)

  224. Amethyst Mine Says:

    It’s MH’s link. Thanks for letting me know your schedule.

  225. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I didn’t realize until today that Navarre was the one to media spin negative allegations of Adnan that are still repeated by some. Navarre’s words:

    “I’ve never heard of another celebrity who would date a photographer. That Britney would date not just a photographer, but a paparazzo, is bizarre. The fact is, he was clearly taking advantage of her. Conning her into taking photos and having her take pictures while buying a pregnancy test isn’t love. It’s just pretty sleazy. Listen, we’re taking her picture, too. We’re also making money off Britney’s story, but we aren’t setting up shots of her or trying to have images misconstrued.”

    There are even reports they went to Mexico and got married. Do you think that’s true?

    “I’m positive that’s not true. He took her down to Mexico to get pictures he could sell. But he is still spending lots of time with her, which is kind of surprising to us because Britney’s parents are supposed to be controlling and putting this tight rein on her. But for some reason they’re still allowing him to visit.”

    Somehow the timing of Navarre speaking to Radar and getting Adnan this negative press doesn’t seem random.

    radaronline.com/features/2008/02/x17_paparazzi_britney_spears_lindsay_lohan_paris_hilton_mich.php

  226. Amethyst Mine Says:

    And up top earlier in the article, “Until recently the agency was able to get exclusive photos of the singer-cum-tabloid mainstay by having a number of photographers follow her every move. But the landscape changed when the pop star’s life took yet another strange turn and Britney started hooking up with photographer Adnan Ghalib, from rival photo agency Finalpixx.”

  227. Amethyst Mine Says:

    So. Was Alison Silva the driver in the youtube vid? The video credit is Alison Silva.

    Didn’t MT make a post last year about disliking him?

  228. MH Says:

    no he wasn’t driving.

    the is his “site”… he’s the little loud mouth. he’s in most of the vids. green hoodie.
    youtube.com/user/paparazzigonewildtv

  229. MH Says:

    youtube.com/user/hollywoodtv

  230. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Nevermind. Alison is a girl .. but you follow Alison and you come to Paul Barresi both speaking in the same article against Adnan and claiming Britney is in on informing paps of her whereabouts:

    nypost.com/seven/01222008/gossip/pagesix/all_the_britneys_a_stage_944805.htm

    “”Barresi told Page Six that after reviewing footage of Spears with Adnan Ghalib, “[he] appeared to purposely position Britney in full view of fellow paparazzi to help them get the shot . . . It appeared that Britney is in on the sham.”"

    Who is Paul? Outtake for you:

    “”Pellicano is the last-resort guy, and no matter what you have to do to put a fire out for a celebrity, that’s what you gotta do,” said Paul Barresi, a former porn star and freelance private investigator who worked for Pellicano.”"

    abcnews.go.com/Primetime/LegalCenter/story?id=1625097&page=1

    Sorry to put a really long post out here but we haven’t got any news any way but we do have perspectives we didn’t back in April.

    1769. Amapola Says:
    May 17th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
    “Steel_Magnolia Says:
    May 17th, 2008 at 1:36 pm ”
    I find this:
    “Pellicano victim and former THR editor Anita Busch was present to hear the verdict. Her reaction:
    “The full story of Pellicano’s reach has yet to be told.
    To Pellicano and his wealthy clients, ‘winning’ meant obliterating someone’s life and livelihood.
    They saw the media as just another weapon in their arsenal and used and abused it to go after anyone in their cross hairs.”

    reporter.blogs.com/thresq/pellicano/index.html)

    I followed MT:s myway link and come to this. Dont know if there is something in this, to much english text for me :) , but you can check if you want.

    ——
    1774. MH Says:
    May 17th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
    MARK TWAIN Says:
    April 24th, 2008 at 3:15 am
    AM…
    I think the complexity is what’s overwhelming. Theres no guarantee to what you think might be important. A fit in the puzzle sort of speak but who to say. Even with this, an aggressive dog would’nt touch this bone covered with this flavor. Every angle is just way tainted. It’s like “CHOP SUEY”.

    No one’s really looking back. That job is for those who are investigating the obvious.
    This started as just a fascinating story to follow. The more and more complex the more interesting it got. The shadow players are the most without a doubt. The interest has made me a bit of an ameature investigative reporter I guess. Specially with easy access to certain things. Then like the X-Files the lone gunmen drops off a manila folder. Should have never opened it. Now there are more questions. that’s where it’s at. Lot’s of “WHAT IF”…

    You know at the end of the day, it’s all about tomorrow. The show must go on as they say. Why not? Everything is looking well.
    The only frustrating thing is that things were actually falling in it’s places on it’s own. The timing of certain stories had crossed this one. It was amazing. Maybe that where all this zealousness came from. A stumble of two left foot.
    Lets just all sit in the middle of the street and be safe from the debris.

    “WHAT IF”?…. should be where it belongs. In the past.

    1775. Steel_Magnolia Says:
    May 17th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
    Amapola Says:
    May 17th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
    “To Pellicano and his wealthy clients, ‘winning’ meant obliterating someone’s life and livelihood.
    They saw the media as just another weapon in their arsenal and used and abused it to go after anyone in their cross hairs.”
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Ah, great link!

    This reminds me of the time that Brandy (or a staff member) wrote on X something to the effect of, “I personally heard Britney say she wanted to be represented by Eardley.” This was AFTER the conservatorship was put in place.

    How would someone at X personally overhear Britney say this? Was a tape made and played for her? Or was she present during a three-way call? Or was she lying?

    Wiretapping, private eyes, prescription meds…oh my!

    —-

    1640. MARK TWAIN Says:
    May 16th, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    I started back tracking after my last post and after running into Steel’s comments I had to stop and say that STEEL IS THE IRON CHEF. I don’t know what else I missed but I’ll catch up later. Hitting the bar down the street and get drunk with the irish watching the laker game. “HOW CRAZY IS THAT”, LOL.

    Steel make sure you cook enough for the rest of our friends. Now it’s just about that dessert.

    apnews.myway.com/article/20080516/D90ME0280.html

    Now don’t get this story confused with what you have. Just giving you guys an idea and the depth of things in Hollywood.

    Something to this effect, “so to speak”.
    And Radar who commented on Brit goes to Costa Rica and how great it would be to get an R&R away from the paps…… I think it’s the best time for the paps to be there.

    Because it’s you people who will never really know the full story unless your most hated is there to bring you light from the darkness, LOL.
    Interesting trip it is.

  231. Amethyst Mine Says:

    MH, thanks again. Great job.

    Does the driver really say that whenever they come to Britney Spears’ house the gate must open?

    It’s in the first minute of the tape. I am putting it here a third time for small in case she’s in a hurry.

    youtube.com/watch?v=J1fz1iU0tM4&feature=related

  232. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Steel. January 27 is the same night Alli, Chad, Sam, Brit went to the movies. Remember that footage of Sam getting Britney to eat or drink something before they do in and Britney says, “What’s your hurry?!” I don’t have a link today but here are 152 pictures from that same evening, before or after the movie I don’t know.

    gallery.untouchablebritney.net/thumbnails.php?album=4963

  233. MH Says:

    from leandro’s site…pap making fun of “regis”.
    youtube.com/watch?v=2JTj2v4yY2o&feature=channel_page

    slow motion
    youtube.com/watch?v=2w0QpaLPpJ0&NR=1

    ps…alison “silva” is not a girl.

  234. MH Says:

    >>>>Does the driver really say that whenever they come to Britney Spears’ house the gate must open?

    he was just happy that he was getting in. jmo

  235. MH Says:

    another pap’s site.
    alison…black hat/buzzed hair.
    youtube.com/watch?v=2tDvqNtLS5U&feature=channel_page

    another pap site, you should recognize this one.
    youtube.com/user/filipelosangeles

  236. Amethyst Mine Says:

    MH, I was just going to post that one on Navarro. Ama are you around? You must see the video. Here’s are the captions:

    “I would like to challenge you to follow me all over, step by step on this specific article about a guy by the name of Regis Navarre, the owner of paparazzi agency X17.”

    “Now you watched the video of a paparazzi reversing the tables on Regis and going after him as he goes after them. He leaves no space, freedom or privacy for any celebrity, because to him their mistakes, happiness, disasters, drama is a money making business for him and he wont set any boundaries because its money to him. But if it’s him, he fears this and begs to please not hurt his family. But what about all the celebrities you hurt like for example Britney Spears and her downward spiral life that we all watched her go through. Well Regis “It’s Britney Bitch” and now it’s our turn to make you feel what we felt all these years. “Hey Regis It’s Your Paparazzi Bitch?” Let me document your entire life f////r!!!!

    by alison silva”

  237. Amethyst Mine Says:

    MH I believe this is the video you just posted. You can also find it here on their website:

    paparazzigonewild.tv/blog/?page_no=2

  238. Amethyst Mine Says:

    “Regis Navarre scum owner X17 treats his employees like trash!!! Let’s say for example today is the 1st of the month and you’re an employee of Regis, today he promises to pay you $1,000 and he will give you the rest of what he owes you, another $1,000 not till the 15th of the month but he already shorted you on the 1st and he shorts you again on the 15th and this keeps repeating every month. So technically he is always shorting his employee’s money and keeps repeating this every payday, giving you a different excuse after excuse telling his employee’s that the business is going down and giving them some hoopla excuse saying this and that. What’s really disturbing is that people who don’t even work for Regis is making more money from him than his own employee’s. Regis buys other paparazzi content and pays them more cash for their videos and photos than his own employee’s. And you know what’s funny, Regis is always complaining about how the business isn’t making any money but he still owns a bunch of houses, traveling with his family and can afford to maintain is lavish lifestyle expenses and always gaining, gaining, gaining, while his employee’s keep losing, losing and getting themselves more in debt due to the promises owned to them by Regis and the acts of working in this business. Regis never appreciates his own employees and if it wasn’t for them he wouldn’t be living this comfortable life that he maintains. Regis is feeding off of his employees like a bottom eating catfish!!!

    by alison silva”

    paparazzigonewild.tv/blog/?page_no=3

  239. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 19th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Another reason to skim the comments under stories posted at X – especially stories that are pap-related.

    E.g., there was a story a while back about a bunch of paps being arrested for trailing Brit. Turns out it was some of X’s photogs that had been arrested. And here was their arrest photos, splashed on the Web pages of their own agency!

    The comments section contained some not-to-nice words about Reeg for doing that…I do hope that whoever was posting the comments realizes that Reeg can use the software to view their IP addresses…!

  240. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 19th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Thanks for re-posting that, AM.

    I think I just had a light bulb moment myself.

  241. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I am gone for a few hours but I’ll be back early this afternoon.

    I think I am still absorbing two paps pulling up to the gates of the Summit and sauntering through with ‘complete’ permission. I knew some paps had been to the house but I never imagined them coming in unescorted by ‘advance’ invitation.

    Still pondering Felix’s (thanks R) “The move is getting over.” I am thinking of the items Britney said Sam had taken.

  242. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I am thinking of the items Britney said Sam had taken.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I didn’t realize that Brit had said Sam had taken anything…??

  243. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I knew some paps had been to the house but I never imagined them coming in unescorted by ‘advance’ invitation.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I had ASSumed that whoever lets them in (Sam, Pa, etc.) just calls the gatehouse to let the guards know they are expected.

  244. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Further to 12:17 pm…

    AM, If you’re referring to this:

    thesuperficial.com/2008/02/sam_lutfi_robbed_britney_spear.php

    There are a couple of things about these claims that I find strange…

    1/ How would Brit know anything had been stolen if she was still in the hospital (unless the theft occurred prior to her going in the hospital)?
    2/ Brit wasn’t making the claims directly. Jamie was.
    3/ Who was the “source” on the OK! Magazine article?

    and

    4/ Lutfi has still yet to be charged with a crime. Any crime. Why?

    I guess I had just ASSumed that the allegations weren’t exactly true, and that it was just an additional method used to make Lutfi appear even WORSE. (As if he needed to look any worse!)

    But who knows…

  245. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    MH Says:
    January 16th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    >>>Puny and Jane, working together to influence the course of the custody trial.

    and they would want to influence the course or the custody trial because…?

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I’ve been trying to think of how to word this for it to make sense. And I don’t know if I’ve figured it out yet.

    But…

    I do think there’s a difference between Britney “The Brand,” Britney “The Trainwreck,” and Britney “The Person.” One group of people appeared to be battling for control of “The Brand,” one group appeared to be battling for control of “The Trainwreck,” and then Britney “The Person,” was left in the middle (all on her own) to try to make her own decisions while trapped amongst the surrealness of it all.

  246. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Further to 1:04 pm:

    Britney “The Brand” generates a lot of money.
    Britney “The Trainwreck” generates a lot of money.
    Britney “The Person” is just a mom from Louisiana.

    I guess I tend to think of them as three different people. If that makes sense?

  247. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I’m an idiot! I think I got my Britney’s mixed up.

    Yes, I do believe that those trying to control Britney “The Trainwreck” wanted to influence the outcome of her custody case. What better way to drive the train right off the tracks?

    But this just might refer to Britney “The Brand,” not Britney “The Trainwreck”:

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    MARK TWAIN Says:
    May 18th, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    Good cooking Ama.

    Just walk away from The Heath ledger story and concentrate on Britney.

    The punyman with pinstripes suits and Jane Doe investigative reporter together romancing one another. Legal or illegal. Stories leaked stories given on both sides. Stories on papers before court dates.

    Punyman and Jane Doe wrapped in a blanket. Who’s using who. Don’t matter they both get what they want and the benifits too.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I should start plotting this complex little diagram out on paper…

    It’s like a Rubik’s Cube that’s slowly clicking into place.

  248. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Sorry for clogging the thread…But here’s another thought…

    Britney “The Trainwreck” equals “Custody Case”
    Britney “The Brand” equals “Conservatorship Case”

    The two are very closely linked.

    Both involve the pinstripe suits. And that’s where I got lost??

  249. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Steel. You are not clogging the thread. I think it’s understood when here on one’s own, that one still wants to think, find, muse, speculate.

    I need to get the dates between this, “The conversation ended with Britney saying that her pal Sam Lutfi had wrongfully taken some of her property and she asked her father for help to get it back. Her father said he would.”

    people.com/people/article/0,,20176372,00.html

    Follow the link in the article that has the court document. It’s only a few pages. It reads a little different than the article. aw, Britney “..told her dad that there was some property of hers that Sam had wrongfully taken,” On February 2nd according to the supplemental Declaration of Jamie Spears that was executed Feb. 4th.

    You are right. It’s a little strange. Anyway, about Brit’s “new lawyers” and who she fired…

    Meanwhile, Jamie Spent Feb. 2nd with Britney and part of the evening Feb. 3rd.

    TMZ reported On Feb. 2nd, that a crime report had filed the story. TMZ credited US Magazine for first breaking the story (reported by US Feb 2nd)
    tmz.com/2008/02/02/theft-at-britneys-house/
    usmagazine.com/exclusive_robbery_reported_at_britney_spears_beverly_hills_home

    Ah don’t know. Alli I guess had the dogs.

    Why were no criminal charges filed again Sam? I figure he has a lot of embarrassing things he could tell the tabloids. Maybe he returned the things that were missing, or maybe whoever did take things returned them. I am guessing Sam not telling his story or more Brit stories has to do with some power by Jamie over him. Blab and you’re under arrest.

  250. small hands Says:

    Hey everyone :)
    Sorry I haven’t been participating lately. I have a lot on my mind lately…family stuff. I still read and I will give input here and there when I feel it’s needed.

    Do you guys believe Britney is really writing a book?

  251. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I think I will believe it when a more creditable source reports it. On the other hand that’s the second time we have heard something in a week. Remember Ian? Maybe he was throwing out information he had heard.

  252. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I don’t think she’s writing a book. I just can’t see her having the ability to talk with a literary agent until after the C-Ship is over.

  253. gigi Says:

    I did remember that Am. I wondered if he had inside info after hearing this story about her writing a book.

    I had a great time eating lunch. Thanks for spending part of your day with me.

  254. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 20th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    I need to get the dates between this, “The conversation ended with Britney saying that her pal Sam Lutfi had wrongfully taken some of her property and she asked her father for help to get it back. Her father said he would.”

    people.com/people/article/0,,20176372,00.html

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I just read the declaration.

    …LOL!

    I’m just picturing this whole scenario in my head:

    “What flavour of ice cream do you want, baby?”
    “Vanilla, daddy, I want Vanilla…Oh, and can you help me get my babies back, even though I’ve already hired other lawyers. Oh, and can you help me get back the items the were stolen from my house by Sam Lutfi?”

    Wow. Why do I get the feeling that points 1 to 14 were included just to distract us from points 15 to 18, and to sneak in point 19?

  255. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Okay, my post at 6:31 pm was snarky! Busted again!

    What I’m trying to say is that, just like Ma, Pa seems to have included a lot of random details in his declaration. Maybe it’s because I’m in another country, but these declarations…are unlike any legal documents that I’ve ever seen.

  256. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Steel. If I read the declaration correctly, she didn’t ask him to help her get her kids back. She asked if he would help get her stuff back from Sam.

    I don’t think she recognized the c-ship. She had “new lawyers” to help her with stuff. I am thinking if she and Daddy had walked out together, she might have bolted off to her attorney, Adam Streisand?

    Also, the climate of the hospital had changed. Sam was no longer allowed in. Actually, no one was as the staff began to realize something was up. Afterall, you had Lynne trying to convince people of Sam’s bad character, and Sam trying to uphold that the parents were whatever.

    Things had not gone according to plan. Shoot. Earlier today I found an article that talked about a standard hearing (informal and in the patient’s hospital) after 72 hours (on a hold). A legal rep takes on a med rep to determine whether the hold is justified.

    If that is true, rather than some “change in shift” doctor had let her out … I don’t think Sam and his planners believed that Jamie or Lynne could get c-ship.

    Steel. I appreciate the manner in which you categorized and simplified part of the discussion into the Brand, the Trainwreck, and the person.

    Please correct me on whether Britney said she wanted her dad to help her get her children. That is not what I read. She said, no, no and no that she had fired her custody lawyers and had new lawyers who would help “with my stuff.”

    As for the earlier stuff about ice cream it sounds girl like and manipulative. She appealed to his fatherly weaknesses maybe so she could get out. Afterall, she thought he was the one keeping her there but the hospital order showed it was the doctor? Actually, what we know based on his testimony is that a nurse brought the order in but Britney wouldn’t read it.

  257. Amethyst Mine Says:

    “Steel. I appreciate the manner in which you categorized and simplified part of the discussion into the Brand, the Trainwreck, and the person.”

    I should have further said it makes it easier to discuss, and then moved on to my next paragraph.

  258. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Let’s not forget this name: Paul Barresi

    And this link: nypost.com/seven/01222008/gossip/pagesix/all_the_britneys_a_stage_944805.htm

    January 19, 2008

    Why is Alison Silva having any conversation with ‘celebrity private investigator?’ that he then reports to Page Six (or um, NO Barresi is known to sell or try to sell stories — I doubt Page Six contact him). The article is intended to damage Adnan — split them up. Do I have that right? It’s shortly after A & B shopped for a pregnancy kit.

    Events around the 19th

    Jan. 14, 2008 – Monday. Spears shows up for a court hearing amid a swarm of paparazzi, where it’s expected she will attempt to regain visitation rights…For unknown reasons, she leaves minutes after arriving. Federline is granted a continuation of an emergency order giving him sole custody of the kids, and Spears continues to have no visitation. (MTV) The little church, plus the mall with Chad, Sam, Adnan

    Jan. 14, 2008 – Monday. Brit and Adnan search for a pregnancy test in the evening. MTV reports at 7:30 p.m. EST Jan. 16th

    January 16, 2008 Britney Spears Exclusive: Her Plan to Have Adnan’s Baby! OK Magazine okmagazine.com/news/view/3837

    January 16, 2008 EXCLUSIVE: Britney Spears’ Best Friend Alli Sims: “She’s Not Crazy”
    Alli, “”I do not think Adnan is a good person,” Sims, 26, tells Us. “I think he only has bad intentions. He has given me a weird feeling and creeped me out. I wish he would just go away.”"
    US Weekly
    usmagazine.com/britney_spears_best_friend_alli_sims_shes_not_crazy

    Jan. 16, 2008 – Splash reports on the 17th, that Alli made her nasties about Adnan to US Weekly, kept clam the next day but is with Chad Hardcastle at the Ivy, “His gestures say what Alli doesn’t.” Chad is sarcastic, “Who is surprised by the Adnan thing?” splashnewsonline.com/mt/mt-search.cgi?search=”alli sims”&IncludeBlogs=2&x=20&y=9

    Random or planned media? Media wars.

  259. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Maybe on the 14th Britney felt sick? Nauseated? That would explain the Little Church a little better maybe.

  260. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Sorry. I am off track with that last statement although it is a plausible idea.

  261. MH Says:

    I thought this was pretty cool…

    An open letter from Jenna & Barbara Bush to the Obama girls.

    online.wsj.com/article/SB123239885943895155.html?mod=rss_Today%27s_Most_Popular

  262. MARK TWAIN Says:

    I would like a few of those ‘Team Adnan’ shirts Ronnie. If I could get 2 large whites. It’s time for me to put them on.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziToC3371NE

  263. gigi Says:

    As soon as I have some money I am ordering my friend one from FA. I planned on getting her one for Christmas but ran out of money. I still wear mine from time to time and get lots of comments on it.

  264. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 20th, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    If I read the declaration correctly, she didn’t ask him to help her get her kids back. She asked if he would help get her stuff back from Sam.

    I don’t think she recognized the c-ship. She had “new lawyers” to help her with stuff. I am thinking if she and Daddy had walked out together, she might have bolted off to her attorney, Adam Streisand?

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I am reading the declaration the same way as well.

    First, it sounds like B is asking for information on how she ended up in the hospital in the first place. She appears to be accusing her father of arranging it.

    B also does NOT appear to ask for assistance with her children. She does not appear to be stating that she has fired her custody lawyers, either. (Though the wording is very ambiguous.) She appears to be stating that she has already fired a set of lawyers and hired a new lawyer for “stuff” (which could be property, finances, who knows what).

    If anything, B is asking only for assistance with helping to get her things back. She appears to say the items were “wrongly taken,” but does not come out and say they were “stolen.”

    Did Sam not live at her house for a certain period of time? Is it possible he was moving out, and took some of her things with him? (Which could be the “move” that F & F refer to in their video?)

  265. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, Here’s something to think about…

    Look at the declaration. Now look at the People Magazine article:

    people.com/people/article/0,,20176372,00.html

    The article merely paraphrases the declaration, in the order the declaration was written. Just like Ma’s declaration, this one has also been written very carefully…almost as if it’s a press release. The reporter at People has (as any lazy journalist would do) merely printed the “press release” out, almost word for word, and passed it off as “breaking news.”

    How many legal documents have you ever read actually sound like they’ve been ripped from the pages of People Magazine? Most legal documents I’ve ever read are full of “legalese” and are written as to provide a clear and concise account of the “evidence.”

    But not here. Strange.

  266. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    You want to find your pinstripe suit?

    Perhaps it’s right there on the letterhead.

  267. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I don’t think Mark’s message is random.

  268. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I know…They’re never random.

  269. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    …LOL!

  270. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, The first time you ever addressed me, do you remember what you asked me?

  271. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Heck no, Steel.

    Food for thought meanwhile.

    ‘Random or planned media? Media wars.’

    But he knows we know this but he also knows we have more ability to focus our lens.

    Here’s another detail on Silva/Barresi. It was a videotaped interview (so like Barresi!). Was he on the hunt for dirt on Adnan? Or, was he doing a “story” (BS!)on lives of the paparazzi?

    nypost.com/seven/11072008/gossip/pagesix/fotog_fesses_up_137512.htm

    Barresi had a specialty for getting people as “witnesses” on tape (e.g. people who said things about Eddie Murphy and homosexuality), going to the celebrity’s attorney as “help” and then going back to get people to recant their testimony (in Murphy’s case mistaken identity, someone who looked like Murphy). I believe all but 1 of 12 did recant. The last died an odd death – he/she was locked out of their 5th floor apartment, in their lingerie (?) and “fell off” the roof of the apartment building. The details are odd. See a towel and nail scrapes on the building.

    Murphy was suspect but was cleared. We were sent to Pellicano as an example. Now emerges Paul Barresi with a direct tie to Adnan Ghalib. Would you agree we have enough of a direct tie here?

    Look at Barresi’s modus operandi and he begins to sound similar to Sam. Private I. Homosexual pornography ties. Just trying to help you, when he’s the one who set you up. Someone with direct access to media outlets.

  272. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I wonder that the next sound byte was to be that Adnan was putting Britney’s life in danger and that he would get her killed.

    Hypothetical question posed by Barresi: “Has Adnan broken the law? Have you seen Adnan break the law?”

    Silva, as quoted by Page Six, “We all know we are breaking the law, but it is worth the risk. Safety is not an issue with most of us.”

  273. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 21st, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    Heck no, Steel.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I remember quite vividly the first time you addressed me directly. It was random, and out of nowhere. You asked me a very strange question.

    I’ll see if I can dig it up for you. In retrospect, it’s very interesting!

  274. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Did you watch the video?

  275. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, The original thread appears to have been removed, but the follow-up to your question can be read on:

    “Britney Arrives on Set!” (If you Google this with my old moniker, it will pop up.)

    You were asking a question about a specific person. I had told you I didn’t know, that I wasn’t interested in the legal side of this story, and that you should just TELL me about the person.

    If you can remember back that far, was there a specific reason you were asking me about that person? Is that person important in some way? ;)

    That’s a rhetorical question. Kinda.

  276. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    No, haven’t watched the video yet.

    I’m asking you these weird questions because…

    (cue sleuthing music…)

    It might be…a clue!

  277. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Wait, yes, I’ve watched MT’s video (if that’s what you’re referring to).

  278. Amethyst Mine Says:

    ‘Hi, Steel. Do you mind if I vacuum for a minute and just tidy up?’

    Surely this can’t be the quote you refer to.

    How about my second, ‘You hungry Steele?’

    Third, ‘Where in Mexico did Adnan and Britney go to?’

    Good thing you left me another clue. btb, Mark’s video are never random, and I wonder that this time MH was his muse.

    Maybe I am reading into it, too much. He does have his playful side. It’s part of why I love ya Mark.

  279. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Wow. You know Internet “journalism” has really gone to sh@t when you find disclaimers like *this* at the bottom of a story:

    “DISCLAIMER: This posting was submitted by a user of the site not from The Insider editorial staff. All users have acknowledged and agreed that the submission of their story and its contents is in compliance with our Terms of Use.”

    theinsider.com/news/625149_Theft_Reported_at_Britney_Spears_Home_Police_Report_Singer_s_Stay_at_UCLA_Medical_Center_to_Be_Extended

    —> Check out the “facts” that were included in this story. Note that when you click on the link to the “source,” it comes up as a 404 Error.

    Now who would’ve taken the time to write a story like THAT? Gee whiz. I wonder who it could be? LOL

  280. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 21st, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    That’s not the quote I’m referring to.

    …You’re actually looking on the wrong site.

    It’s not a trick question – I’m being honest. It’s actually quite interesting.

    We’ve kind of come…full circle?

  281. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I think I found the first question I asked you. Actually I asked it of justin?

    I think all players on the board were important.

    I think at the time it annoyed me that so many had opinions (especially of hate) without knowing any of the players.

    Probably the best question I might have asked to confirm this was, who the other Sam was in Britney’s life.

  282. Amethyst Mine Says:

    One more commonality between Paul Barresi and Sam.

    They both seemed to like younger men. Paul played hetero in terms of his outer persona (he was married?) older men torturing younger men in sexual roles. He both played the role and directed films with this motif. Dominatrix.

  283. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, You originally asked it of me a day or two before, but the thread has been removed since then.

    So you understand now who I’m talking about?

    It might be interesting to keep this person in mind while searching for documents that might support a theory about a relationship between Jane and a pinstripe.

  284. Amethyst Mine Says:

    MT wants bold shirts. Now is the time to wear them.

    Have we finally made MT proud? LOL.

  285. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Gosh darn. MT wants 2 shirts. …

  286. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, What I’m saying is that perhaps the person you asked me about IS the pinstripe suit.

    But who knows.

  287. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    My favourite song off of Blackout is “Radar.”

    I prefer to fly under it. I’m much more effective that way. ;)

  288. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Okay, okay…But I usually tend to wear black T-shirts. It makes me feel all “sophisticated” and stuff. LOL

  289. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I’d rather concentrate on today’s clue, Steel. And also on celebrity PI and Sam.

    That other guy is out of the picture for me and he makes no sense as the punyman.

    TMZ Levin makes more sense but I think we posited that along time ago and got no affirmatives or “getting warmer” from MT.

  290. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Paul also used various aliases on his films.

    Paul enjoyed (made money) off accusing and/or setting up others to look gay.

    I wonder what Sam showed Britney (or did he just psychologically get her to believe) to momentarily convince her Adnan was gay.

  291. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Call it coincidence but Feb 7 and 8th 2007 media circled that Britney was a massive lesbian and into orgies with women, a friend of Federline’s “revealed.” etc

    I think it caused plenty of buzz as an official statement was released by spokesperson Gina Orr of Jive. “It’s not true.”

  292. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 21st, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    That other guy is out of the picture for me and he makes no sense as the punyman.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    That’s because he’s not the Punyman. He (or a member of his firm) probably just operated the ol’ fax machine on Puny’s behalf!

  293. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    We’ve (possibly) got the media covered.
    Now we need the pinstripe.

    I’m suggesting the pinstripe. Or one of the pinstripe’s cohorts.

    BOTH worked for Puny, in a way. Serving different functions.

    That’s where my mind is…For now…Back in a bit.

  294. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    P.S. Think of the flow of information…The direction it would take…

    Puny to Pinstripe.
    Pinstripe to Jane.
    Jane’s publications disseminate the information.

    ???

  295. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, Another thought…

    On February 4, 2008 at 1:30 pm, B was still a “Proposed Conservatee.”

    I’m assuming this applies to conservatorship of the “estate,” and conservatorship of the “person.” (If both apply in this case.)

    What was the time and date that the C-Ship went from “proposed” to “official”?

    And what articles appeared in the media between the time that B went in the hospital and the time that the C-Ship was made official? What articles may have influenced the public? The judge?

    February 4th and February 5th look particularly interesting.

  296. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Just trying to zero in here on the times and dates that the pinstripe-Jane relationship may (or may not) have affected the outcome of a court case.

    Not a custody. The OTHER case. The important one.

  297. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Oops, that should say, “Not a custody case. The OTHER case.”

  298. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Sorry, but I’m going to clog the board just a BIT more…

    Are there any other declarations involving the C-Ship case that available to view on-line?

    It’s interesting to note the difference in writing styles between your average news article and the two declarations we’ve seen so far.

    The average traditional news article is writing in the “inverted triangle” style – with the 5 w’s (who, what, when, where, why) in the first two or three paragraphs. The article is then usually written with the “most important” information following the 5 w’s, and the “least important” information at the tail end. This is so an editor, at any newspaper the story is run in, can lop off the end paragraphs to make the story “fit” into the space available in the newspaper.

    However, both declarations are written in the reverse of this – the most important information comes at the very end.

    Try reading those two declarations from end to beginning, and ask yourself how much of that information actually made it into the media.

    Interesting!

  299. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Sorry, that should be “the average traditional news article is written in…”

    Typos galore.

  300. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Ian said he was going to put out a book on Michael Jackson that would prove he was set up and isn’t a pedophile. I wonder how he thought of the idea.

    I wonder that he came across Baressi in his travels in L.A.

    Steel. You go for the pinstripe. I am staying with his muscleman for a tad. I was too green (hopeful our world wasn’t this way?) to understand the Pellicano case at the time.

    I feel like I have my foot wedged into a door. Baressi may not be more involved than Page Six and smearing Adnan to drive the couple apart. On the other hand, he’s a school primer for me.

    Moving on though for the moment. The White House symbolizes…. federal courts. I thought I had begun to explore that some time ago. More in a sec.

  301. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Amapola Says:
    May 18th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
    I dont remeber the original MT enigma longer, but this was how far I get for some weeks ago.

    Get rid of the pinstripe lawyers. (HOW????)
    It will be a break between at least two groups of people.
    Hell will break loose in the newspapers.
    Black headlines.
    One newspaper will go under (well “become naked”) because everyone will see they have done someting very very ugly.

    After a while some people will be happy and the colours return to life.

    “Then those who wrote with bent pens and those who fough wars in pin stripes suits shall have their weight on top of a dozen egg.”

    And now it is the punyman and scarlett K.I.S.S.I.N.G

    So there are lawyers and investigators who work together with newspapers, for there own benifit. For almost all involved.

    Except for the sad people who will suffer, and suffer hard, because of the false “reality” who the public are served?

    And from the scenarios who this persons orchestrates, with help from all who want the money?

    I just check, becuase I dont follow all as good as you.

  302. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 21st, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    I was too green (hopeful our world wasn’t this way?) to understand the Pellicano case at the time. I feel like I have my foot wedged into a door. Baressi may not be more involved than Page Six and smearing Adnan to drive the couple apart.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I was too green because, (although I have a “devious” mind), I came in to this mid-stream. And I’m now starting to laugh at myself for all the things I missed.

    I would venture a guess and say that the goal was not to “drive the couple apart,” but to deprive B of her access to outside resources.

    Up until a week or two ago, I was unaware that a) she had actually MET with Streisand, and b) it was A who had taken her to meet with him.

  303. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Steel. I’m not sure what you mean by we have the media covered. It isn’t for me. We’ve got some of the more common outlets used to purvey both positive and negative information. Just look at whether Sam was being investigated or not and use the words “media war” in your search.

    Then there is Berrasi who wants to make money and is likely connected to Sam. I’m not sure if this is relevant but about that plain old envelope left on MT’s doorstep, “Whom ever wanted to stay in the shadow have done a good job doing what they did. Maybe they should have left the envelope at the L.A. Times. Maybe they wanted me to have my shredder at it.”

    As for pyramid style writing you’re looking at People.com magazine who is reporting on testimony from Jamie. His declaration and Lynne’s seem straight forward: on the day of, I heard, I went, I did, I saw, then this happened, and the last thing that happened. It’d be more interesting to figure out why People.com fudged part of the story.

    The punyman is someone associated with the Pellicanos and Berassi’s of the world. I’ll betcha.

    Alison Silva was a pond. He must have been flattered to have been interviewed. I doubt he knew Berassi’s history or character. Berassi called him and told him what? Offered to pay him what? Enough for Silva to put down his camera and be interviewed on tape.

    It would be interesting to interview Silva about that interview. What did he think the purpose of it was? What was he led to believe? Was he surprised to see the way his voice was used?

    With Berassi in the picture things get more serious and dangerous than before.

    btb, I am taking Journalism this semester. I hope I don’t become obnoxious.

  304. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 21st, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Steel. I’m not sure what you mean by we have the media covered.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I meant that we (possibly) know who Jane is. Now we also (possibly) have the name of the pinstripe suit.

    But who knows.

  305. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 21st, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    As for pyramid style writing you’re looking at People.com magazine who is reporting on testimony from Jamie.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    No, I’m commenting on journalism in general. The pyramid diagram might be the first thing they teach you in the class you’re about to take. It was one of the first things I was taught in mine.

    The People story deviates from the pyramid style, because it more or less repeats back what was stated in the press release, er, I mean, the declaration. (Sorry…That’s me being snarky.) Lazy reporters have been known to re-print press releases almost word for word, without doing any of their own “investigating.” This appears to be what has happened with the People story.

  306. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 21st, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    His declaration and Lynne’s seem straight forward: on the day of, I heard, I went, I did, I saw, then this happened, and the last thing that happened.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    To me, they are anything but straight forward. The wording is ambiguous. The majority of the points made in the documents are absolutely meaningless (to distract, I suppose.) And the most important points are left for the very end (buried beneath all the meaningless stories about ice cream and lipstick purchases and wine glasses with nice stems).

  307. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 21st, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    The punyman is someone associated with the Pellicanos and Berassi’s of the world. I’ll betcha.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I could be wrong, but I have a hunch that Jane received that declaration via fax machine (note how the document is on an angle), and that it made it’s way on to the People web site prior to the C-Ship being officially put into place. And I also have a hunch that whoever sent it to Jane *could* be listed right on the document.

    And I’m wondering if the fax machine operator works for Puny. And that your Pee Eye works for the fax machine operator.

    Clear as mud? Thought so. LOL

  308. Amethyst Mine Says:

    oh dear. Give me a moment. LOL

  309. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Something to ponder:

    MARK TWAIN Says:
    May 16th, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    apnews.myway.com/article/20080516/D90ME0280.html

    Now don’t get this story confused with what you have. Just giving you guys an idea and the depth of things in Hollywood.

    Something to this effect, “so to speak”.

    And

    Pellicano and associates allegedly tapped actor Sylvester Stallone’s telephone and accessed confidential police records on other public figures, including comedians Garry Shandling and Kevin Nealon.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Pellicano

    And

    On February 6, 2006, Pellicano was indicted on 110 counts in federal court in Los Angeles alleging crimes of racketeering and conspiracy, wiretapping, witness tampering, identity theft and destruction of evidence.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Pellicano

    And

    Steel_Magnolia Says:
    May 17th, 2008 at 3:08 pm

    Ah, great link! This reminds me of the time that Brandy (or a staff member) wrote on X something to the effect of, “I personally heard Britney say she wanted to be represented by Eardley.”

    This was AFTER the conservatorship was put in place. How would someone at X personally overhear Britney say this? Was a tape made and played for her? Or was she present during a three-way call? Or was she lying?

    And

    “Sands claimed the theft is on a grand scale, involving racketeering, wire fraud and money laundering, and that the theft occurred prior to the conservatorship taking place and continues still.”

    mtv.com/news/articles/1582277/20080225/spears_britney.jhtml

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    MT originally implied that Pellicano was just an example.

    But there are a lot of similarities.

  310. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I think we have exhausted Jane. Yuo’re right.

    NICE last coupla’ of posts, Steel.

    Pellicano was an example. Paul Barresi IS or WAS involved in context to smearing Adnan however.

    True or fale?

  311. Amethyst Mine Says:

    True or false? I meant.

  312. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 21st, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    I think we have exhausted Jane. Yuo’re right.

    NICE last coupla’ of posts, Steel.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I don’t know if we’ve exhausted Jane, but we were told it was the “same Jane” as the Heath case, so I’m going to go with this until we come across something that says different.

    OK! People?

    Okay, people!!

    As far as my last couple of posts, I’m just putting that out there and am await feedback. Feedback on the pinstripe suit who works with Jane, and…

    The Pellicano-type stuff…racketeering, wire fraud, money laundering, wiretapping…This part is still fuzzy to me.

  313. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 21st, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    True or false? I meant.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I’ve been busy re-reading documents on the Trust:

    etonline.com/documents/bspears_trust_080214_et.pdf

    And have been looking for dates that Trustees were put in place (in relation to Sands allegations, etc.)

    So I haven’t gotten to the P.B. stuff yet. Will let you know when I have.

  314. Amethyst Mine Says:

    About the part that is fuzzy to you, look at Barresi as a lab specimen. If we can’t broaden our sights to see how it works then we can’t be effective if that is anyone’s mission.

    Jane Doe = done for now
    Punyman = work in progress (subordinates, Jane, possibly Barresi or maybe Barresi is an independent: QUERY, what was he doing interviewing and videotaping Alison Silva?

    Pinstripe = attorney

    A medium for me please. White will be fine. Thanks for the water.

  315. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Barresi’s comments to the NY Post regarding A do fit the timeline. January 22, 2008. Before the C-Ship was put in place.

    nypost.com/seven/01222008/gossip/pagesix/all_the_britneys_a_stage_944805.htm

    I didn’t get the impression that he was videotaping Silva, but just questioning him. Barresi then reviewed tapes of A and B together, and gave his opinion (I actually was left with the same impression at the time…That A was setting up shots and B was in on it…But then again, I wasn’t calling up the NY Post to offer my opinion on it, either.)

    Am I right to read from that article that Silva worked for X, and was possibly referring to Felipe in the article (re, B texting him to apologize for the arrest)?

    If so, that tells me Barresi was interviewing members of the competition about the situation. Interesting indeed.

  316. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, If this is your Pee Eye, my guess is that Young Samuel was also on the receiving end of his questioning.

    Unless…

    Perhaps Young Samuel and his co-horts were working WITH your Pee Eye. Perhaps they were trying to maintain control of “The Trainwreck” and were attempting to get rid of A in order to do it.

  317. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Steel. “Most of us have no concern for the safety of others, to be honest with you,” the Brazilian photographer told LA private eye Paul Barresi in a videotaped interview last January.

    Dated November 2008.

    nypost.com/seven/11072008/gossip/pagesix/fotog_fesses_up_137512.htm

    The Pee Eye (you are funny!)works for money and maybe privileges such as a guest list at Hyde’s.

  318. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Just two days before Barresi’s name appears in the NY Post with his comments about A:

    x17online.com/celebrities/britney_spears/x17_xclusive_britneys_restraining_order_against_adnan-01202008.php

    January 20, 2008

  319. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Steel. About the c-ship it was originally for 72 hours, TEMP.

  320. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Um. Do you think the tape Silva was viewing was of the pregnancy test shopping? I don’t want to go into unpleasant things (things Ama brought up but then backed off of, as though I had had originated the thought — Kitson’s and X17 photography) we have covered.

    I don’t think Alison worked for X17 — he was beat up by them he claimed but maybe he worked for them at some point.

    A review on Silva before we move on:

    jfxonline.com/jfxonline/2008/10/28/keanu-testifies-in-pap-injury-suit/

    Thank you MT.

  321. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    The restraining order that Sam was brandishing…Might it have been an old one, related to this?

    tmz.com/2006/02/11/britney-vs-the-paparazzi-malibu-stand-off/

    Who’s the fellow in the red shirt, making comments? TMZ claims his name is “Agnon.” …LOL!

    At any rate, how did Sam get a hold of this document (assuming that it’s real)??

  322. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 21st, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    I don’t think Alison worked for X17 — he was beat up by them he claimed but maybe he worked for them at some point.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Perhaps he was beat up by them AFTER he worked for them…He didn’t exactly have kind things to say about his boss. LOL

  323. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I don’t know. Maybe Felipe was not the worse sort. It seems Britney trusted him to help her find Adnan.

    She borrows Felipe’s phone in the first vid. (we’ve seen these videos before – laugh at ourselves – we’ve seen many of the vids but have a deeper perspective) But the second one is clear she’s asking for Felipe.

    Sam is in the car. 2:30 to 2:44. “Do you have Felipe’s number? Give it to me please because they steal my phones every day.” They?

    So much in the past. So much in the present.

    I am back to Baressi and his ilk. Ain’t he just so much like Sam?

  324. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 21st, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I missed this. Barresi was already talking to Silva (perhaps?) at the request of Reeve’s lawyers, who were trying to help their client in the suit that Silva brought against him. (Do I have this right?)

    This tells me Barresi does NOT work with Young Samuel and X. This tells me he works for Puny.

  325. Amethyst Mine Says:

    8:31 Steel.

    Media Wars.

    So we’ve seen their flourish with pens. Navarre wanted what Sam wanted, at least where Britney was concerned.

    Adnan was a disadvantage to X17. Adnan was a disadvantage to the overall Trainwreck company and all of its subsidiaries.

    Steel. I ask you to consider that Baressi was there at the beginning. Just consider it. Put it on a corkboard and forget about it, but consider it.

    I know this about the punyman: this is not his first conquer or would be conquer.

  326. Amethyst Mine Says:

    SM I am off for awhile. Call it Malaysian or Indian, not JERK. Did you check it out? A meat pie girl oughta have a JERK recipe. Why wait ’til Christmas? :)

  327. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, I’ve bought it by the bottle but never made it from scratch. Maybe that should be my next recipe to try.

    I should be concentrating on other things, too. I’ve got some great “avoidance behaviour” going on here.

    Damn you, MT! ;)

  328. MH Says:

    pg10 calls ft…no biggie.

    red!

  329. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Question. Why was Baressi brought to visibility so late?

    Maybe we should look at naysayers, spokesmen, unnamed sources for the time period and get a lead.

    Sam couldn’t or didn’t outright say, Adnan is a bad man, did he? He had others do it. Correct me please and site a source.

    Alli, Baressi ala Alison Silva… I don’t mean media outlets, I mean who the sources were.

    Corral them and put them on the top right of the corkboard?

  330. Amethyst Mine Says:

    MH? You want your shirt in red? What???

    Steel, try jerk at home. It’s tactile, strange, if unfamiliar, and can marinade for a day or so. There’s intrigue. Watch out for the Habenero. Singular. Stet.

    Orange juice, brown sugar, All Spice (or do by hand), garlic, salt, ginger? Sounds like our case.

  331. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    …LOL!

    I thought she was saying she was going to drink red wine while you sipped on white.

    I’m here sipping on rum and pomegranate…Looking for some inspiration (I seem to have lost my creativity somewhere in all the documents)

    …Which could explain why I thought she was talking about wine instead of T-shirts.

  332. Amethyst Mine Says:

    LOL Steel. Always the sleuth! What the hell is MH saying otherwise? When did MH begin to encrypt?

    It ain’t the rum and pomegranate. Dang. That sounds good.

  333. Amethyst Mine Says:

    um, yes we were talking about t-shirts not wine.

  334. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Steel. About avoidance behaviour. Guilty.

    I won’t be around much tomorrow to engage or abet. So let’s make it a work day.

    I think I am signing off for the night. Only sports or a bad mood (not expected) could drive me back up here. I’m just gonna peek into Florida for a moment.

  335. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Sip on this.

    1/16/2009 ORDER GRANTING DEFENDANTS LEAVE TO AMEND
    1/16/2009 ORDER GRANTING MOTION TO AMEND AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSES (W/IN 10 DAYS)
    1/20/2009 D998 STATUS REPORT TO THE COURT ON AVAILABILITY OF ACCOUNTING DOCUMENTS

  336. Amethyst Mine Says:

    D is defendant in case those Singapore Slings are hitting you. I have no idea. Steel. What is a pomegranate rum concoction?

  337. Amethyst Mine Says:

    One wonders if it is Defense who issued the subpoenas? To Norfolk VA and to L.A. Jan 6.

    Is Team Spears getting the runaround?

    Small you still there? Color of t-shirt please.

    p.s. I like that you check in. I was reading the archives today and we were going at such a pace that Steel wondered if her intro comments were invisible? Something like that. So if we don’t reply right away or acknowledge outright, we do notice.

    I wonder where Ama has gone off to? I like to think she is smitten with someone new.

  338. MH Says:

    lol you’re both wrong. i’m not asking for a red shirt and wasn’t talking about wine. am, you asked first. red! my excitement with the exclamation point is your answer.

    me, encrypt lol

    hopefully ama is well and living life.

    forget pb. jmo

    journalisim am, good for you.

  339. doc1955 Says:

    I’m bored.

  340. small hands Says:

    I do check in. I’m having a horrible day :(

    Color of shirt Navy Blue :)

    I can’t figure out what MH means by Red!

  341. doc1955 Says:

    why are you having a horrible day biggie smalls?

  342. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Amethyst Mine Says:
    January 21st, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Steel. What is a pomegranate rum concoction?

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I’m trying to turn over a new leaf by “drinking healthy.” LOL

  343. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Weird.

    x17online.com/celebrities/britney_spears/x17_xclusive_pap_held_hostage_and_beaten_by_montage_hotel_security-01212009.php

  344. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Doc, Are you working the night shift or something? You’ve been a bit of nighthawk lately.

  345. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Be back later but doesn’t this reek of Alison? http://x17online.com/celebrities/britney_spears/

    He reminds me of a soccer player. (when they fall they cry BIG to try to get a penalty against other player(s). It is accepted in the sport.

  346. small hands Says:

    doc1955 Says:
    January 22nd, 2009 at 4:02 am
    why are you having a horrible day biggie smalls?
    ————————-
    Well that nick name made me smile :)
    Well lots of family drama. I am trying to play peacemaker. It is difficult when kids are involved.
    This site is a nice distraction though.

  347. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Sorry to put everyone else to sleep with this…I’m *just* grabbing a clue now!

    Feb. 4/08 – Streisand asks the court to 86 Pa as conservator of B’s estate. He asks that Grossman and Northern Trust Bank be named conservators.

    tmz.com/2008/02/04/lawyer-says-brit-worth-40-million/

    Feb. 6/08 – A and B visit Streisand after leaving the hospital.

    tmz.com/2008/02/06/britney-and-adnan-visit-her-lawyer/

    Feb. 7/08 – Streisand acknowledges he cannot legally rep B due to the C-Ship.

    tmz.com/2008/02/07/brits-attorney-is-out/

    AM, It appears that Streisand, Grossman and National Trust are all (more or less) Team Britnan. How did we miss this?

  348. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Thanks MH. be back you guys

  349. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I change my mind. I want my t in red please. LOL

    Red is my favorite color but looking up and seeing it is a shock and a surprise.

  350. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I disagree Steel on Britnan. Had they have received the c-ship themselves I’m confident they would have axed A.

    However, outside of Adam Streisand maybe, I see them as sinister people. Howard watched, aided, abetted. He knew what was going on with spending. He knew, I believe, about Johnny Wright (it occurs to me that not paying him was an attempt to alienate Britney from Johnny — according to what small posted from an album insert, the relationship was close enough that Britney wanted to babysit for him?)

    I had just been thinking about the money but between the OK magazine article, the interview with Johnny, and what I missed in terms of divide and conquer… Johnny seems to have been one that cared and one that had enjoyed a good relationship with Britney.

    She let him go, that is true but maybe she didn’t need him anymore. Who is to say the parting wasn’t amicable?

  351. doc1955 Says:

    I love the new login graphic.

    Typing my password over Uli’s nipples is revolting yet riveting at the same time!

  352. MH Says:

    Where is the GIU clip that was promised?

    And where’s London?

  353. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Couldn’t log in all day. Neither could G.

    small. Next chat is Monday night. Do you know where to go? Time hasn’t been announced yet but it’s often at 8 EST.

  354. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Steel. I reset my password to log in.

    Meanwhile, you didn’t respond to this and I am interested in your thought.

    1/20/2009 D998 STATUS REPORT TO THE COURT ON AVAILABILITY OF ACCOUNTING DOCUMENTS

  355. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, I’m not really sure. What do you think?

    I think it’s time for me to take a break from sleuthing. We don’t seem to be getting anywhere. It’s all blurred. We’re getting closer now, but we just can’t seem to break the case.

    I don’t know who MT is, but he sure hasn’t been giving us many clues lately. Maybe if he gave us a few more good clues we’d be able to figure out who the Punyman is.

    But until then…

  356. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I understand Steel. A person needs a break from time to time. But if you are up for speculation, that accounting statement suggests to me that it hasn’t been easy to get all the financial details?

    It makes me wonder about behind the scenes accounting — or whether Grossman complied and turned over everything.

    On a happier note, hey all, I heard from KLM. She’s doing alright and will be back when she can. I sent her the cliff notes. :)

  357. small hands Says:

    I couldn’t log in either until now :)

    Thanks AM….I probably won’t make it. The time doesn’t fit my schedule. And no not sure yet where to go. I haven’t been able to look stuff up. Busy.

  358. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, Why did you choose to quote Jordan Miller in the article you wrote for JFX?

    Isn’t he pro-Lutfi? I thought you didn’t like Sam Lutfi.

  359. Amethyst Mine Says:

    ok small. If I make it myself I’ll tell you anything interesting that happened. I don’t know who the guest is yet.

    Do you think we should move threads? I don’t know how Ama, Nosey, Cloud, and Wolk could find us.

    MH, I gotcha on pb. Thanks.

  360. Amethyst Mine Says:

    1/23/2009 D998 AGREED MOTION FOR EXTENSION OF TIME TO FILE COUNTERCLAIM
    1/23/2009 D998 NOTICE OF HEARING EXPARTE AGREED MOTION FOR EXTENSION OF TIME TO FILE COUNTERC LAIM
    1/23/2009 D998 AGREED PROPOSED ORDER GRANTING CO-CONSERVATORS’ MOTION FOR EXTENSION OF TIME TO FILE COUNTERCLAIM

  361. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Steel. JM conceived of the link between Peter Falk and Britney Spears.

    I have no idea as to the status between Sam and Jordan. Do you?

  362. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I don’t know if Sam and Jordan Miller are still in contact, but BH has been notoriously pro-Sam and pro-Alli in the past.

    When you repeated Jordan’s words in your story on Peter Falk, I was just a little confused as to whether JFX was now officially pro-Sam and pro-Alli as well.

  363. Amethyst Mine Says:

    That’s silly Steel. :)

  364. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Just checking. I thought it seemed weird, too.

  365. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Explain?

  366. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Well, Jordan is just very outspoken on things. He’s very clearly anti-Jamie and anti-management (Larry), and has in the past been pro-Sam, pro-Alli. Not that long ago he was posting photos of Brit that were taken inside her home at the Summit during the “Lutfi era.” I think I remember talking with the group here not that long ago about how the photos had to have been taken either by Sam or Chad Hardcastle (and now that I think about, possibly by paps from X).

    I just thought it was odd that you’d quote Jordan as a “source,” when he’s so opinionated and so clearly biased. Now that you’re name is officially connected back to JFX, it’s as if everything you say now represents them. So I just wanted to be sure what I was reading.

    I was just confused, is all. Better to ask questions than to not know.

  367. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I wouldn’t read anything into quoting Jordan.

    I’d read into the story.

  368. Amethyst Mine Says:

    small if you didn’t see:

    jfxonline.com/peter-falk/2009/01/22/peter-falk-conservatorship/

  369. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I sometimes think Jordan’s views on the conservatorship have little to do with Brit’s well-being, and everything to do with having an axe to grind against Jamie. While I’m glad that he’s speaking out, he does tend to come across as a bit…snivelly. Like he’s taking a bit too much glee from the whole situation. And his prior relationship with Sam is questionable, to say the least. So…

    AM, I’m just trying to be clear on what your and JFX’s views are. We tend to tear apart articles that appear on every other site. If you’re going to be a “published author,” you better be prepared to defend your views. Because they don’t just represent YOU anymore. They represent Sergio and Arnold and the whole JFX crew.

    “With great power comes great responsibility.”

    Use it wisely. ;)

  370. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Steel. I got a Rudolph nose.

    You and I have been here for months. Camaraderie?

    Where’s the love?

  371. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Sorry. Didn’t see you updated post. Rudolph must seem an insult. brb

  372. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Heh, I got really confused for a second.

    I wasn’t sure if you meant “coke nose,” or…??

    LOL

  373. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    10:03

    I’m just saying…If you’re name is going to be in red, you’ve got to uphold the name.

    It was only two Saturdays ago when Doc had to tell you to “stop” twice because you went after Ama, and then me. Doc didn’t use the term “comraderie,” but instead used the term “unity.”

    I don’t think Ama has been back since that night. I don’t know if the two events are connected. Maybe she’ll show up soon and let us know what she’s been up to.

  374. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Do I represent JFX? I’ll be more careful with swearing aloud, not that anyone asked.

    No one controls my name. I’ve been clear in my views. Nothing has changed.

    I don’t like the c-ship.

  375. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Good night, Steel.

  376. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I wasn’t questioning your views on the C-Ship. Just the content of the article.

    Remember when Linda first started writing? Geez, the poor girl couldn’t do ANYTHING right. It seemed like everyone tore into her for something in every article she posted. And wasn’t it Elizabeth (?) who lasted all of a day before packing it in?

    When I first started posting here, I made the leap because I liked the tone of the articles. They weren’t gossipy and over-opinionated and cheap, the way some of the other sites were.

    And the articles here DO get re-posted on other blogs, so it’s important the content is accurate or else it looks bad on JFX. I remember one time one of the new girls (can’t remember who) posted a Britney article with two glaring mistakes, and that article got re-posted everywhere…and I was slinking down in my seat, because everyone on the Internet seemed to be talking about it. And I was like, “Yeah, *I* post there.”

    And then…Uhhh…

    I’m on my third Singapore Sling…Uhhh…Where was I?? LOL

  377. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Goodnight, AM.

    I hope you get my point. I hope I don’t sound too harsh or anything. It’s just that you’ve been awfully mean to a lot of people, and now that you’re name is in red, and you’re representing JFX, I don’t think you should be so mean any more. It just looks bad towards JFX.

    Or maybe it’s just me…

    Goodnight.

  378. small hands Says:

    I did see the Peter Falk c-ship thread. I couldn’t post in it because I couldn’t log in.

  379. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, I’m just re-reading what I posted last night…I guess the truth always comes out when alcohol is involved. (Even if you’re a lush like me and get a buzz off of three drinks…Okay, two and a half.)

    But I’m going to be upfront here. I don’t like the fact that your name is red, because you already kind of try to run the site. And when I saw your name in red, I just had to roll my eyes, because I can’t even imagine what you’re going to be like NOW.

    Do you want an example of what I mean by “running the site” or “being mean”? Look what you did to small with the Halperin stuff the past week – making her dance circles just to be let in on what the heck we were even talking about. Why would you do that to her? She’s been one of our best sources of info – she’s probably one of the only REAL Britney fans I’ve ever met on these blogs. She’s FULL of trivia. But you tried to exclude her on the Halperin discussion. Why?

  380. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    And, I’m starting to get the feeling that you’re conning me on all this sleuthing stuff. Maybe trying to trick me into blurting something out so that *I* take the fall for it instead of you or someone else when it hits too close to home?

    I’ve been handing you clues on a silver platter – GOOD SHIT. More than you even know! And every time you either, a) take the credit for it when MT suddenly appears to egg us on, or b) revert back to the same stuff (Grossman, Grossman, Grossman) every time when the clues we come up with CLEARLY don’t point to them. I mean, MT has come out and blantantly TOLD us what he means on some things, but you still pretend like you didn’t see it. You can’t honestly be THAT stupid. So what’s your gig?

    Add to that the fact that I was literally *courted* and *wooed* to come over here last March by TWO people, and I’m really thinking something is up. Were both those people you? Was it you and someone else? If so, who was the other person? The person kept appearing, addressing me in BOLD, almost begging me to come over here. The person was from the west coast and always said at the end of their posts, “I’m OTE.” Who was this person?

    Their posts are in the archives. Maybe it’s time I went back and dug them up…

  381. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I’m sorry you feel that way, Steel.

  382. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Yeah, I bet you are.

    What does it take to get Rehema’d around here?

    FUCK. FUCK. FUCK. FUCK. FUCK. SHIT. FUCK. FUCK. FUCK.

  383. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    AM, What did you call Doc a while back? A salad tosser?

    Hmmm, maybe that will work…

    Doc, you’re a salad tosser!!

    You toss salads.

  384. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Okay, just kidding. Sorry.

  385. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Uh, gotta go.

    I’ll be back in a bit if I can think up some more funny shit.

    P.S. FUCK. FUCK. FUCK. FUCK. FUCK. SHIT. FUCK. FUCK. FUCK.

  386. small hands Says:

    :(
    I like both of you. I like type talking with both of you.
    I haven’t really been doing too much digging with info about IH because there is a lot of things going on in my private life. Or in the lives of a few family members, not mine directly. Has to do with kids and custody stuff. So I’ve been extremely distracted.
    I do like reading everything you guys post because it is a distraction from real life. Keep peace everyone…and keep talking :)
    As Rodney King once said “Can’t we all just get along”…PLEASE? :)
    Oh, if we ever change topics….I recommend that “other” c-ship case :)

  387. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Ronnie, Please cancel my membership account immediately!

  388. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Heh, anyone remember that? That was some pretty funny shit!!

  389. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    And then Amethyst was like, “Gerbil tip of the day. Oil the gerbil’s wheel with olive oil. Don’t worry if the gerbil licks it. Gerbils like oil.”

    And then Doc was like, “Wasn’t your membership FREE?!”

    I then I was thinking to myself, well, he’s got a point…

  390. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I’ll be back when I can think of some more funny stuff.

    This is like a warm, fuzzy trip down memory lane!

  391. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    And like clockwork, a “Chucky Cheese” impersonator shows up at X.

    See I WANT to believe you, AM. But it’s just so damn HARD!!

  392. gigi Says:

    good grief. Whats wrong with Am being in red. I have no problem with it. I say good for her. She wrote something that Ronnie put on the site. Thats great. Ronnie ask months ago if we knew anyone to help write some of the threads and I did not know anyone. I’m glad AM had the chance and he put it up.

  393. gigi Says:

    Am sorry but it looks like someone is jealous they are not in red. lol sorta like the day that one of the guys were flirting with you and not me. lol

  394. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    You know, I will half-apologise for a comment at 11:23. I don’t mean to insult AM’s intelligence.

    I actually mean the opposite. AM, I think you’re a lot smarter than you let on.

    By a long shot.

  395. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Yeah, jealous is EXACTLY it! LOL

  396. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    When does Ronnie come back into the office? How long have I got?!

  397. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Just kidding.

    Toodles!

  398. doc1955 Says:

    Good Lord!

  399. small hands Says:

    OMG….doc is in red too. What will we do?! I don’t mind the red names. :)

  400. doc1955 Says:

    OMG! OMG!

  401. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Yeah, since I can’t log out…?!?!

    Small, your post from earlier didn’t show up until now. Sorry!

    And let me just say, it is NOT about the red names!!!!!!

    It is SOOOO not about the red names. It’s a lot more complex than that!

  402. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    P.S. Doc, again, that was fucking funny!!

  403. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Now how do I get out of this GD site?! I haven’t been able to log out in weeks.

    What’s with THAT?!?!

  404. doc1955 Says:

    Steel, please Stop.

    You are ruining my fantasy of you running through the snow in your snow boots. My toe to neck visual scan ends at your neckline – only to find, Rehema’s face.

  405. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    But that was the whole point! LOL

  406. doc1955 Says:

    If you want out, just leave.

    No!

    WAITTTTTTTTTTTT!!

    First give us all your clues!

    God knows we can’t survive without those!!

  407. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I WANT to be Rehema’d. I NEED to be Rehema’d!!

    I’ve tried so many times and it just won’t happen. It’s as if Ronnie is this unmerciful bastard who just won’t axe me. I’ve tried every which way and never happens.

  408. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I gave you my clues last APRIL!!

    And we’ve run around in circles since then.

    I. Can’t. Take. It. Any. More.

    …LOL!

  409. doc1955 Says:

    And it won’t happen until you marry me.

  410. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    If I stay, I bash my head against the wall.

    If I leave, I’ll get followed when “it” finds me and hounds me.

    I’ve sold my soul to the devil. I’m going to have to give up Britney threads now, and take up crokinole or horseshoes.

    I should never have taken the red pill.

  411. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    See! SEE!!

    Look what happens!!

    I blatantly TRY to get everyone to HATE me, yell at me, run me off, but NO!!

  412. doc1955 Says:

    Steel, can I tell you a secret?

  413. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Good thing I wasn’t drinking coffee when you just typed that! LOL

  414. doc1955 Says:

    I’m drinking Green Tea

  415. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Okay, tell me. But after that I’m going to start swearing like a mad man. A sweaty toothed mad man.

  416. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Was that your secret?

  417. doc1955 Says:

    No! Don’t swear! What’s the point?

  418. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    ‘Cause it’ll get Ronnie to cancel my membership account immediately?

  419. doc1955 Says:

    LOL…now THAT was funny!

  420. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I try.

  421. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Well, I’m closing down my browser for the night.

    Should I not be able to log in tomorrow (fingers crossed!) I’ll remember you all fondly.

    And if I can still log in…Doc, I may just consider thinking about allowing you to woo me.

  422. doc1955 Says:

    *(Steel walks into Bank)

    “Hello Everybody! I’ve got a Gun! A big Gun! Right here! In my pocket!! Don’t make me use it…I don’t wanna use it! No! Nobody move, nobody gets hurt! I’ve got a Gun! I’ll stick up this joint and take all the money!”

    Then she shoots herself.

  423. doc1955 Says:

    I just realized that was probably a bad example LoL.

  424. doc1955 Says:

    Heck, don’t blame me. Rehema’s been gone for a while…I’m a lil’ rusty.

  425. doc1955 Says:

    Ok, I shall return later… Gotta figure out how to deal with this megalomanic

  426. doc1955 Says:

    And don’t you level-headed and rational thinking blog citizens give out the link secret… I’ll be pisssssed!!!

  427. gigi Says:

    Doc what you doing up all night. You must have a night job now. I see your also in red. lol People not going to like everyone going red. Looks like some people are special. Oh wait you are special. :)

  428. doc1955 Says:

    Oh Gee Gi, night job? Don’t follow those Steel tips. U might end up at a dead end.

    Not only am I special, but I can fly too.

  429. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Good morning all. It’s a beautiful day.

  430. gigi Says:

    lol Doc. No I don’t want to end up at a dead end but I’m not following any Steel tips. I am just going by the time posted. I know what time I posted and you posted before I did so you were up at night seeing what was going on and I am guessing you were working.

    Yes AM it is a beautiful day. Now back to work for me. See you ladies later today.

  431. doc1955 Says:

    Yes, Gi I’m a working lady of the night

    My president is black, in fact he’s half white

    so even in a racist mind, he’s half right

    I feel compelled to keep you up on the latest rap music

  432. Amethyst Mine Says:

    He’s black? He’s half white? I thought he was Irish.

    oneeyedparrot.org/obama.html

  433. Amethyst Mine Says:

    This the happiest I’ve seen Doc since Rehema went to Nebraska.

  434. doc1955 Says:

    LoL…yea…well

  435. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Sing it!

    O’Leary, O’Reilly, O’Hare and O’Hara
    There’s no one as Irish as Barack O’Bama

  436. doc1955 Says:

    Irish? That’s it!!

    Cancel my American citizenship immediately!

  437. gigi Says:

    Dang Doc you are in a great mood today. I’m so glad.

  438. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Sing it!

    He’s as Irish as bacon and cabbage and stew
    He’s Hawaiian he’s Kenyan, American too
    He’s in the white house, He took his chance
    Now let’s see Barack do Riverdance

  439. gigi Says:

    lol you two are crazy. lol Turning red sure made you happy.

  440. Amethyst Mine Says:

    LOL I don’t think it was the red G. SM made the party. Don’t ‘cha think?

    My fave was the bank.

    I am waiting for KLM to ride by on her blue bike. I sent her an invite.

    NEWS. Docs in a good mood!

  441. doc1955 Says:

    here we go rainbow!

  442. doc1955 Says:

    I’m actually not in a good mood. Only when I’m away am I so so so happy!

    Add to that the fact that I was literally *courted* and *wooed* to come here

  443. doc1955 Says:

    goshdarnit! i screwed that up: my open and closing tags with the words (delusions of grandeur) preceded and ended that quote; but they didn’t show….because they were in a tag!!

    Doc is so Dumb

    AND hella Home Depot stores are closing which cuts my home improvement staff by 95%

    I’m Pissed!!

  444. Amethyst Mine Says:

    So do it again. LOL delusions of grandeur.

  445. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Home Depo is closing? I’m pissed too!

  446. doc1955 Says:

    Well, several stores are + 1000’s of jobs lost including my homies who loiter in the area for gigs

  447. doc1955 Says:

    so as far as a headcount, moi, tu, biggie smalls, gi, mh, mt, -minus others; steel(temp. ins.) klm (rare) and pola bear (mia)
    = 9 max??

    it’s time to expand our friendbase don’t ya think?

    that’s pretty pitiful

  448. Ronnie Says:

    I’ve missed quite a bit, haven’t I?

  449. doc1955 Says:

    yesssssir

  450. Ronnie Says:

    Wow. Man, so what should I do?

  451. doc1955 Says:

    We want new friends. We miss our old friend/(s).
    We need more entertainment, more participation, more love. We want to be “thee” centerhub for entertainment/celebrity news. We need this to survive.

  452. Ronnie Says:

    Let’s start with participation. We’re totally open to ideas and you are def an idea man. Hit me with some. Go big.

  453. doc1955 Says:

    Well in that case, I need to be completely honest and upfront about something…..

  454. Ronnie Says:

    i’m listening….

  455. doc1955 Says:

    I AM A WOMAN!!!

  456. Ronnie Says:

    heh heh. ok, i had heard but didn’t want to… well, y’know.

  457. Ronnie Says:

    so do you have any ideas? like i said, we’re open.

  458. doc1955 Says:

    Well, we need a untargeted target market. Can’t target the Divas, they linger between the two popular blogs.

    Let’s target Gangsters! Ooooor better yet, let’s turn the SAHM or the 40+ suburb wifeys into gangster loving fiends!!

    Yes We Can!!!

  459. Ronnie Says:

    That’s an interesting idea. Do you think we risk over exposing ourselves? I know you’ve seen Uli’s hairy chest and all… but I do see where you’re coming from.

  460. Ronnie Says:

    And by the way, I’ve now fixed the logout function. You should be able to logout without issue.

    There was logout code that was unsupported since our upgrade to the new blog backend server software. Just cause I know someone will ask. Which should also fix the login issues some of you were having.

  461. doc1955 Says:

    aha ha – no but on a serious note you had some pretty great ideas a while back, with the whole live news cast on-the-scene type thing

    do you feel like the entity can be successfully expanded for profit in the blog division?

  462. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    While I’m still suffering from delusions of grandeur, and before my membership account is cancelled immediately…

    Suggestion…

    Well written articles, or back to no gossip at all, the way it was before. I lashed out at AM, but I think my beef was really with gossip blogs in general. Everything is copy and paste. Everything is repeated and recycled over and over between blogs, and the factual quality is SO low.

    Unique content is always…refreshing.

  463. Ronnie Says:

    As long as it’s done right, it can work.

    We are ready to try something new, something that’ll be fun for everyone. We thought about bringing one of our faithful readers out to spend some time with us, tape it all and put up a special pap 101 type thing. What do you think?

  464. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    …LOL!

    That would be funny!

    Here’s a post I wrote just before I saw that:

    Ronnie, I think I’m just overall frustrated.

    There appears to be a group of about 20 divas who roam the same handful of blogs. We’ve all grown to recognize each other’s writing, so it doesn’t matter where we go – we’re still going to run into the same people.

    And now, there’s such a small group here that we’re just hashing over the same stuff over and over. We’ve got nothing new to talk about, I guess…

  465. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    So, yes, fun things would help!

  466. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    (temp. ins.)…??

    Temporary insanity…??

  467. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    At any rate, I’m logging back out. If my login doesn’t work after this, I’ll understand. It’s what I asked for.

    What I WANT. What I NEED. Dammit!

  468. doc1955 Says:

    While I agree with Steel, I disagree in the idea of unique content. There is no such thing as unique content. What happens happens. The photo perspectives can vary, but it is what it is. I would say the most important thing is to BE FIRST to report it. I don’t want to read about something on Monday morning that I read about all day on Sunday and for the first time on Saturday night, when the event occurred. The reason why divas flock to Jordan is because they know he usually has some of the alleged news FIRST.

  469. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    To clarify:

    Unique content equals NOT copy and paste.

    Especially when it’s copying and pasting stories I’ve already read elsewhere.

  470. doc1955 Says:

    Steel don’t leave!!!

  471. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    So, yes, I agree with Doc.

    E.g. I had already read the story on the Peter Falk conservatorship at BH. Then I re-read it a while later here. (So that’s what my complaint really was, I guess.)

  472. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Alot of people originally flocked here because of the original content/different perspectives/new information on Adnan (e.g. Q&A’s).

    The Pap 101’s are also GREAT!

  473. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I really liked the idea of providing an “inside perspective” into the world of paparazzi. You could probably do a lot more with this.

  474. doc1955 Says:

    Exactly. But hell a year later and we have the same crew plus or minus two. There’s something wrong with that.

  475. Ronnie Says:

    I do understand. We did talk about that a while back, didn’t we Doc?

    There has been delays in stories mainly due to finding the balance between day to day business and JFX Online.

    It’s something we are continually discussing in the office.

  476. doc1955 Says:

    Only prob with that is that no one cares about paps for THAT long…it’s the celeb news, the stars..

    only way to solve this problem is, as much as I hate to resort to this, I’m just going to have to go ahead and date Britney…

    …sigh…

    and everyone will come flocking here again, wondering about me, being jealous of me, hating on me….

    (rolling eyes) ugh…i just really have no other options

  477. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    …LOL!

    But. What about…me?!

    (Delusions of grandeur!!)

  478. doc1955 Says:

    We’re going to have to put our relationship on hold.

    It’s not you, it’s Me.

    Duty calls and I must fulfill my obligations.

    I mean, it’s not like I WANT to date Britney Spears….I just have to…

    Trust me, it ain’t easy.

  479. Ronnie Says:

    I dunno Doc, dating Britney ages one more than being President.

    But then again, wouldn’t it be fun to see a different perspective, one from a commentor, for example, as the story?

    I’m going to bring up more commentor participation to the guys.

  480. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I am sure Steel is completely sincere.

    Lol

    Love me hate me say what you want about me but all the boys and all of the girls are begging to if you seek Amy

    Lol

    I am depressed about Home Depo. Lol

  481. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Oh, so now it’s Amethyst that I’m really HAWT for?!

    …LOL!

  482. Ronnie Says:

    I’m glad we’re all getting along. OK, so Serg and I are heading out to a movie set. Thanks for the suggestions.

    Have a good night everyone.

  483. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Goodnight, Ronnie.

  484. Amethyst Mine Says:

    It’s you following me babe not the other way around.

  485. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    …LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!

  486. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Call it what you want, Doc, but for some reason, I keep getting “wooed” no matter where I go.

    I’d like to think it’s for my stunning good looks and charming personality.

    But it’s probably for my Cliff Clavin-like knowledge of Britney gossip.

    All the sleuths want a piece of me! (They want a piece of me…)

  487. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Okay, I’m outta here. I keep *swearing* I’m leaving for good, and it never happens.

    I think I really just need to grab a life. It’s probably the only solution. (!!)

  488. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    P.S. I didn’t say that the people “wooing” me actually LIKED me. I think they all just want to pick my brain.

    So whatever. At least I’m good for sumthin’. :)

  489. doc1955 Says:

    rrrrrringgg!!
    rrrrrringgg!!
    rrrrrringgg!!

    B: – ….Hello?

    D: – WHERE U AT?

    B: – …uMMMM HuH?

    D: – WHERE U AT? GURL STOP PLAYIN’ WHERE U AT?

    B: – WHATttt?

    D: – SEE U BUSTED! CAUSE I SEENT YOU, I SEENT YOU!!!

    B: – …i think you have…

    D: – YOU HAD THAT MAN IN MY NEW ROOM, ON MY SHEETS?

    B: – Freak call…(talking to Brett in the background)

    D: – WHAT? YOU FREAKED HIM? IN *MY* BED??? HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO US?? HOW COULD

    B: – who in the If You Seek Kay….

    D: – DON’T YOU IF YOU SEEK AMY ME, DIS DOC GIRL , YOU KNOW WHO THIS IS!!… WHY YOU ALL HAD KEVIN ALL UP IN MY ROOM, MY SHEETS, DON’T DENY IT GIRL, I SEENT YOU, I SEENT HIM UP IN THERE!!

    B: – (chuckle)…uhh ma’am I think you….

    D: – SEE I CAN’T TRUST YOU! YOU’RE NOT TRUTHWORTHY TALK ABOUT WOMANIIIISAH womanisah oh you’re A womanisah OH Oooh ohhh!! YOU THE WOMANIZER. WOMAN TO THE NIZER. YA JUST SNEAKY AND YOUR COLD BUSTED. CHEATING ON ME…HOW COULD YOU DO THIS B?

    B: – OmG who is this?

    D: – Oh, now you gon try to play like you don’t know me…YOU DONT KNOW ME??? Man I seent you!!…I seent the house he was all up in there…HOW COULD YOU?? you KNOW i had to work all night last night..then you do this?…to us…the kids…what about the kids?…the boys!!..them is like my sons!!! (starting to cry)…my…

    B: – How’d you get this number?

    D: – (snifflin’) EVERYTIME I TRY… TO TRY (inhale sniff) TO TRY TRUST YOU (inhale, sniff sniff..) YOU JUST HURT ME…WHY YOU HURT ME GIRL??? WHY YOU HURT ME??… (singing) “WHERE WERE YOU/ WHEN I SAID I LOVED YOU/ WHERE WERE U/ WHEN I CRIED AT NIGHT/WAITING UP/

    B: – …I gotta go…..

    D: – (still singing) COULDN’T SLEEP WITHOUT YOU/ THINKING OF, ALL THE TIMES WE SHARED/I REMEMBER WHEN MY HEART BROKE/ I REMEMBER

    B: – What???

    D: – oh SO SO so so so you gon act like (sniff) you don’t remember?… YOU DON’T REMEMBER???? (sobs) YOU DON’T REMEMBER?? (singing) MY HEART COULDN’T TAKE NO MORE OF YOU/ I WAS SAD AND LONELY

    B: – omg I’m so sure..

    D: – (singing) I REMEMBER WHEN I WALKED OUT/ I REMEMBER WHEN I SCREAMED I HATED YOU, SOMEHOW DEEP INSIDE/ STILL LOVING YOU, SAD AND…

    B: – click.

  490. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I keep seeing the bank scene.

    Apt.

  491. small hands Says:

    LOL…. :)

    I prefer “Si se puede” instead of “Yes We Can”. I’ve been hearing the United Farmworkers use it for yrs :) Not new to me.

  492. gigi Says:

    now how did you all end up in red? I think Ronnie is playing with the colors on the computer somehow. lol

  493. doc1955 Says:

    Why would any sane human being want to leave us?

    I just don’t get it.

  494. gigi Says:

    I don’t get it either Doc. No one should want to leave us. We are to fun to be around. All families have their arguments and then get over it and go back to being a family.

  495. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Suggestion…

    A Twitter account, with hourly updates on what Uli is thinking and eating.

    ..???

  496. gigi Says:

    That would not work unless he plans to start thinking in Pg or at least Pg13. Not sure we want rated R and XXX on here

  497. doc1955 Says:

    she can’t leave us….she couldn’t do it if she tried…..

  498. doc1955 Says:

    the twitter account suggestion was funny. why didn’t i think of that?

    when you start beating me in funnies, we have a SERIOUS problemo.

  499. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I was going to suggest advertisements…

    “They traded their Nines for Nikons…Now you can get your very own Nine at Gun World, 2412 W Magnolia Blvd Ste B, Burbank, CA!!”

    …but the Twitter account had a nicer vibe to it…LOL

  500. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I don’t know…the phone call between B & D was pretty funny.

  501. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    gigi Says:
    January 27th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    That would not work unless he plans to start thinking in Pg or at least Pg13.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I gotta say, I was kinda relieved when I DIDN’T get mentioned in the video of him eating the sundae! LOL

  502. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I love it when Doc is in the mood for whimsy.

    Doc is a woman? ohmy!

  503. doc1955 Says:

    “They traded their Nines for Nikons”

    Seriously? Not sure about anyone else..but Like that just really doesn’t like grab me!

    It’s like *knock, knock* (knocking on Will Smith’s back) “Excuse me Mr. Smith…um yea… would you rather I shoot you, or take your picture?”

    I mean you never hear any 80s crackheads talking about “I traded my Crack fo’ Cracker Jacks!”

  504. doc1955 Says:

    However I LOVE the “Giving It Up” tagline

    It’s so powerful…so ambitious, yet submissive

    Steel gives it up *snap snap*

  505. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    “So ambitious, yet submissive.”

    …Yep, that pretty much describes me! LOL

  506. doc1955 Says:

    so Steel what are you up to today?

  507. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    About 5′8″

    What are you up to?

  508. doc1955 Says:

    about the same

  509. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Exciting times! LOL

  510. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I’m actually trying to get inspired…Do you have any tips for making your brain think creatively?

  511. doc1955 Says:

    i know right?!

    all i need to do now is take a class or two and my life will be almost as exciting as AM’s

    almost….

  512. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    You know what??

    This is the first time I haven’t been in school in…forever. Eight years? Maybe that’s why my creativity has shrivelled up!

    Maybe I need to take a class…??

  513. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Maybe that’s why I like sleuthing…I’m used to being in school all the time!!

    Thanks, Doc…You just solved the big riddle!!

    Now I’m off to find my mojo…

    LOL

  514. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Quality over quantity Doc. :mrgreen:

  515. MARK TWAIN Says:

    Jordan got tired of being daddy’s strawberry. He still draws split apples. Atleast now he does his followers justice.

  516. Amethyst Mine Says:

    This shyt gets funny at 5:06 a.m.

    I love the part about threatening to leave 10x.

    x17online.com/celebrities/britney_spears/x17_xclusive_pap_held_hostage_and_beaten_by_montage_hotel_security-01212009.php#comments

    Thanks for the tip SM about old threads.

  517. doc1955 Says:

    This is going to sound completely bizarre coming from a 30something closet Lesbo who eats skittles and starburst on the daily but

    GROW UP!

    BOTH OF U!

    I dont even have TIME to blog anywhere else – u both are educated women , go get jobs or something,

    my gawd

  518. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    *snap* *snap*

  519. gigi Says:

    Doc- Jobs are so boring. Why would they want to do that. I have one and I am still on here on and off all day long. Our little family group is so much fun.

  520. gigi Says:

    we need some entertainment in here. Where is yoyo. We have thrown her against the wall in a while.

  521. Amethyst Mine Says:

    aww Doc, it’s tabloid entertainment. Normal or at least not uncommon. I didn’t know that until yesterday. I was amused.

  522. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Thank you, MT. Makes sense.

  523. small hands Says:

    Glad nobody left. Nice to see family getting along here LOL :)

    And doc….I have an image of you as half man/half woman….I’m trying to make it all woman. I thought you were a man for the longest time.

    Can I ask a question about A…is he a good photographer? Besides the paparazzi pics he took, are his other photographs good? Would he ever do a show of his art….if he ever thinks of doing that? He should do a chat….a late night chat when I’m here. :)

  524. MH Says:

    amazon.com/Blue-Murder-Jamie-Spears/dp/B000RJP7HA

    who knew.

  525. gigi Says:

    I would think yes Small that he could have some really wonderful photographs. I’ve seen some that Uli did of his family and they are so good.

    I went back and look and can not find anything that Ama posted since late on jan 11 or early morning on Jan 12. I could have overlooked something but where did she go.

  526. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Let’s get out of here.

  527. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Latest Brit thread. We used to move.

    jfxonline.com/jfxonline/2009/01/27/britneys-a-tease/

  528. doc1955 Says:

    yeah! let’s get outta here! let’s relocate!!!

    we’re a travelin’ team!

  529. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Amen.

  530. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Let’s mingle. Let’s mosey. Let’s amble.

    Let’s meet people.

  531. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Steel, I had you at 5:06

    You ready to get out of here? Move to the front page?

    Alpha bitch, ambitions or comfort to include running laps around other women’s minds, suits you?

    Seems serious for such a gifted mind. Especially the undermining of people.

    Come with and don’t say I wooed you because that would be a lie.

  532. doc1955 Says:

    terms of endearment

  533. doc1955 Says:

    Yes! Ronnie I do think that is a good idea!!

  534. Ronnie Says:

    Doc, sorry, what’s a good idea? I can’t ‘member what I said.

    Doc, drop me an email when you get a second.

  535. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    So bizarre.

  536. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Gem.

  537. doc1955 Says:

    I wonder how much Uli weighs

  538. doc1955 Says:

    Email me back effective immediately!

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