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Adnan Ghalib arrived at the Van Nuys Court house this morning to face felony charges levied against him. He was  later seen being escorted by Van Nuys detective along with a companion.

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Author: Linda

309 Replies to “Exclusive – Adnan Goes To Court”

  1. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Biggie small, this line stuck out to me:

    “Attorneys for Jamie Spears attempted to call Lutfi as a witness on Wednesday, but his attorneys said they had not properly served a subpoena. He said he did not know whether Lutfi would appear at the hearing in April.”

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ic4j0-zgwVvUIwo6rjPD7Oxxe01wD96IU0N81

    Wonder LOL that Lutfi and Ghalib were served by serving Sam Ingham or that it was proper for Wexler to declare he had served the defendants after court yesterday.

  2. Team_Jamie Says:

    No spikey hair today??

    looks like a hot mess…….

  3. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I get your game. You like spikey hair.

  4. Amethyst Mine Says:

    LOL!

  5. Team_Jamie Says:

    it’s better than this look…….

  6. Team_Jamie Says:

    Got the drowned rat thing going on here

  7. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I don’t know.

  8. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Maybe it was an appropriate appearance. Facing counts you don’t think you are responsible for?

  9. doc1955 Says:

    this man is facing time!!! who cares about his hair!!!

    what someone needs to talk to him about is leaving this bitch alone! ill be damned if some bitch have me a fuc@$& up with charges…ain’t no pu@$$ in the world this damn good!! ONE death threat/stab attempt wouldve been enough for me to be like “….uh..its been real sweetness…but i gots to get the F on pimpin”

    ADNAN!!…im sure there is no shortage of ass in ur world….and i really hope you beat this….and please if u do….leave her alone!!!..there are too many women out there….and dont give me no love and i care…and feelings bullcrap…do u have brothers? where r ur boys?,…someone tell this man this is not what players do….

  10. Team_Jamie Says:

    He should have taken the process server’s papers like a man instead of running (him over -supposedly)

  11. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Doc. I don’t think Britney Spears is a piece of ass.

    Maybe in your world and in the world of Dallas Austin.

  12. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Not even worth explaining to you Jamie.

  13. gigi Says:

    Attorneys usually tell the clients how to dress for where they are going. I’m sure the attorney told him to dress down for this. Do not come dressed etc. No reason to have spikey hair for this.

    If the process server had of given him papers somewhere beside in a dark alley then yes he should have took them. Since the server tried in the dark alley then how was he to know who it was and if they had guns or knives etc.

  14. Team_Jamie Says:

    am – what do you mean? Explain what – how he was running? Or how he didn’t deserve to be on the restraining order to begin with???

  15. gigi Says:

    No Doc thats not how he sees her. Love is blind. always has been. Standing up for what you belive is also blind sometimes. Trying to help a friend that you thing is being held against their will is not wrong. The problem comes when you go up against an ass like pops that keeps his daughter a prisioner.

  16. Team_Jamie Says:

    Dark alley? didn’t it happen in the morning??

  17. gigi Says:

    no he doesnt deserve the restraining order. He has not tried to harm one hair on her head. Restraining orders are for protection from people that are trying to hurt you or kill you. He has never tried to do anything but love her. Therefore he should not have a RO against him.

  18. Team_Jamie Says:

    Sam kept Brit a prisoner – Not Jamie

  19. gigi Says:

    Go back and look. Either way if it was an alley then they need to do it in the open so it doesnt look like they are trying to jump on him or whatever.

  20. gigi Says:

    what do you call not being able to use her own phone – house or cell, not being able to go out when you want without asking daddy dearest, not allowed to talk to whoever you want without asking daddy, only able to go to the store without daddys tagalongs. Its the same thing as prision. Daddy has the hired help up all time of night listening to see if she is sneeking and talking on the phone or doing anything she shouldn’t. why does Britney feel like she can only talk on the phone in the middle of the night? Its prision. Yes Sam was just as bad. Actually they are about the same.

  21. EDAWG Says:

    Oh how ghetto of you Doc.

  22. doc1955 Says:

    You’re right AM,,,Britney’s not a piece of ass…she’s a very EXPENSIVE ass piece of ass…

    Gi,,,you’re right…he’s madly in love with her…for love is blind. His extensive romantic history of falling deep in love with women is proof of that…

  23. Rose Says:

    Seems to me he is doing everything right! Sam the one in hiding right? Sam needs to be a man and get served the truth always has a way of coming out if she was my daughter i would not want Sam around either pictures tell a lot.

  24. MH Says:

    This is so fuct up!

    I’m rooting for you Adnan!

  25. MARK TWAIN Says:

    Dear Adnan,

    Are you know regreting the choice you made that day when they had a sit down with you?
    Being belittled by the suits made you angry?
    Did not like being talked to like a child?
    Dont like intimidation much?
    Dont like being used?
    The false hope they gave you while they used you to help them get Britney’s confidence?

    Did not like the sarcasm of the thanks they gave you?…

    Thank you Adnan for all that you’ve done. You’ve been a big help but it’s time for you to go. You dont have much of a choice and it’s best to walk out the door and never look back. That is the easiest out for you. If you dont take this out, you will regret everything that is going to happen when you do walk out this door. You will always be looking over your shoulder knowing that we are there at all times. You are not going to win. I’m giving you a chance to walk out or you’ll end up like you know who.

    Is that how it went? Something like that? Are we following the script to the T.

    Are you now wishing that you should have just left her there that day when they asked you to never return?

    Is the sound of your girls voice asking you to never leave her and never give up fighting for her and her fear for her childrens safety around those people using them against her worth all of this?

    They told you exactly how it will end. You saw all the signs and you saw the path and yet you kept listening.

    With an army of lawyers protecting Jamie Spears interest you kept a steady firm poker face. Your friend were right when they said that Adnan has accepted his faith in this story.

    Lets just hope that it goes the way they designed it to go. Because that small window that you wanted people to peak in might be to small to be noticed. Lets just hope that people of importance are even paying attention.

    Win or loose, you are a hero to one and we know that’s all that matters and you have made your peace with your family on what you set out to do.

    Never look back. Remember that you do not fear them and that they fear you. During these harsh times know that they will falter and the truth will set you free.

    Your Friends

    There you go Doc. Does this sound like the kind of letter and support you are talking about from his friends. Where are his friends?

  26. small hands Says:

    doc1955 Says:
    February 26th, 2009 at 12:07 am
    this man is facing time!!! who cares about his hair!!!
    what someone needs to talk to him about is leaving this bitch alone! ill be damned if some bitch have me a fuc@$& up with charges…ain’t no pu@$$ in the world this damn good!! ONE death threat/stab attempt wouldve been enough for me to be like “….uh..its been real sweetness…but i gots to get the F on pimpin”
    ADNAN!!…im sure there is no shortage of ass in ur world….and i really hope you beat this….and please if u do….leave her alone!!!..there are too many women out there….and dont give me no love and i care…and feelings bullcrap…do u have brothers? where r ur boys?,…someone tell this man this is not what players do….
    —————–
    I know this isn’t meant to be funny, but it made me laugh.
    I’m not laughing at you Adnan. I think you have been a good guy through this whole thing. Know that we support you. I know you were trying to help. Take care of yourself Adnan. Take care of YOURSELF. I mean that. I know you have nothing but the best of intentions when it comes to Britney, but at this point, is it really worth it?
    I don’t even know anymore.

  27. MH Says:

    That broke my heart MT.

  28. doc1955 Says:

    Didnt break mine.

    Fact of the matter is this: if this was not Britney and some other woman, he wouldve hit,run, and been gone! Dont give me those violins…miss me with the romance novel sob stories…fact is, how much of a relationship can you build with someone in what….a month? two? three?.hanging out in person….. ok…as harsh as i know this may sound…but i dont think she is madly in love with him and viceversa…and i dont think shes worth this…i dont think anyone is worth this….not when it comes to risking my own freedom for love, not the kind of love like i love my mom love, but love based on romance and wealth…hell no…

    id rather swallow my pride than someone elses balls ANYDAY

  29. small hands Says:

    Mine too MH. Mine too.

    It’s late and I can’t sleep :( too much caffeine.

  30. small hands Says:

    Hi doc and good night :)
    I am going to sleep. Or try to anyway.

  31. nosey Says:

    That was lovely Mark T….

  32. Cloud Says:

    Doc showing true colors!

  33. Cloud Says:

    Yes, Mark Twain. A true friend and one who has the honor and the integrity not to change with the wind. Thank you for being you.

  34. doc1955 Says:

    Golly Gee Cloud, for some strange reason, I don’t think you like me!!!….

  35. meathead Says:

    This site is now allowing the very thing that X17 monitors, and X is “pond” scum. This is not the same Doc. The other one was bright, articulate, and made, at least, a semblance of sense.

  36. doc1955 Says:

    Deep down within the depths of her soul, she knows she wants me…

    At any rate…for all of you who are thinking “Golly Gee …that Doc is such an asshole”…although my delivery is probably way too abrasive & while those sentiments are true….I’m not saying anything different today than what was said by “Mark Twain” last year:

    MARK TWAIN Says:
    April 13th, 2008 at 3:28 am My only advice to Adnan now is that instead of driving around the block 6 times before parking he might have to double it up.
    like I said in the past. His world will get smaller and smaller. His destinations will only be to and from.
    “It’s not worth it”.

    doc1955 Says:
    April 13th, 2008 at 3:33 am But what’s a man to do at this point Twain?
    He can’t do anything but live it out.
    You can’t go back and re-do life.
    He can’t jump ship now.

    MARK TWAIN Says:
    April 13th, 2008 at 3:44 am It’s true Doc, but like a prize fighter, you have to know when to lay your gloves down or have someone from your corner throw in the towel.
    Don’t get me wrong. I think Adnan had done his part to get this girl and her family a reason to be thankful for. But just imagine how many enemies now lerk in the shadows for him. Where do you start looking.
    And his car is a mess. It’s been targeted many times. It’s easy for me to say that it’s not worth it because myself and a few dozen people from the pap world really knows what’s going on.

    ———-

    So I’ll make it a point from here on out to write some poetry and silky-soft lettering type phrases to make all of you beautiful women feel good. As a woman, I tend to forget, making us feel good is 90% of the battle. Such emotional creatures we are. I’ll omit such phrases and “piece of ass” and the B word and replace them with terms of endearment like “darling” and “sugarpie”….hell I’ll even throw in a “honeybunch” every now and then…

  37. missteacher Says:

    Adnan, I agree with whoever said to please take care of yourself some here. Mark T told us that you would be the sacrificial lamb so to speak months ago. I think we all were hoping it would not come to this but here you are. It is so clear to me that you are NOT the bad guy here and I am a fairly reasonable person. I don’t understand why others can’t see this too. We have seen others sell Britney out and we know what that looks like. You have not gained anything from your time with her. You have lost everything. Of course, as a woman, I admire that. We all hope to have a man love us enough to give up everything. I am sure Britney has never seen any man act this way, least of all her own father. He has given up NOTHING at the expense of his daughter. He has been very well compensated for his listening to her cries for freedom and treating her like a 6 year old beauty pageant, JeanBenet hopeful. I don’t know how he or his wife can sleep at night. I wish you the best and please know that there are those of us who are not so blind that we can’t see the truth. You may think of asking for a change of venue in your legal hearings. I am not sure you can get a fair trial where you are. Good luck…..

  38. Fantasy Says:

    I agree with Doc and Twain. I should stop at that sentence and carry on with my day. But no. I gotta put my 2 cents in. If Adnan’s atty. can get him completely out of this mess he’s in or get the charges dropped/lessened whatever,and just be on papers aka probation and not do any time, then Adnan needs to keep away from Britney and the crazyness surrounding her. Put whatever feelings he may have for her aside and look out for himself. Adnan stands to lose out on up to 7 years of his life, his freedom, all for trying to help this chick out of something that can’t be undone. He has a family that’s concerned for him. He’s gotta think about them too. Britney’s prison has 10,000 sq. ft., 8 bedrooms, with a pool and jacuzzi. Those amenities aren’t found at any jail/prison in Calif. Give it up and let it go. If he still wants a woman or companion he can still find one. They’re out there. If he wants one with a heavy cash flow, there’s plenty of them out there too. Just quit this Britney chick and go for some other man’s daughter. She isn’t worth all this. Now I do love my Britney. I hate to talk like this about her. But I am. Move on,Adnan. His lawyer is one of the best as they say. I hope Kissel and his new client are successful. I said a prayer for Adnan. I don’t know how much or how little it’ll help. Last year I prayed for Britney. Not sure if that prayer has been answered the way I wanted it to be. Enough with me and my spirituality. Anyway. Much much luck I wish for A.G. Have a good day everybody.

  39. Amapola Says:

    “Fantasy Says:
    February 26th, 2009 at 9:43 am …..
    …..
    …..
    ……
    …….
    If he still wants a woman or companion he can still find one. They’re out there. If he wants one with a heavy cash flow, there’s plenty of them out there too. Just quit this Britney chick and go for some other man’s daughter.”

    ””””””””””””
    Your comment turn dirty there. What a way to talk about girls/women.
    “..go for some other mans daugther..” Sound like women are an article, easy to commute.

    I do hope Adnan stay dont have to deal with Spears family anymore, he are unfare and bad,
    but, “go for some other mans daugther…”

    Smells dirty, you try to bring Adnan down to your level.

  40. Amapola Says:

    “missteacher Says:
    February 26th, 2009 at 8:32 am”

    Please let me be one more to be with your words in your comment.

  41. Amapola Says:

    correction:
    “Amapola Says:
    February 26th, 2009 at 11:30 am “Fantasy Says:
    February 26th, 2009 at 9:43 am …..
    …..
    …..
    ……
    …….
    If he still wants a woman or companion he can still find one. They’re out there. If he wants one with a heavy cash flow, there’s plenty of them out there too. Just quit this Britney chick and go for some other man’s daughter.”
    ””””””””””””
    Your comment turn dirty there. What a way to talk about girls/women.
    “..go for some other mans daugther..” Sound like women are an article, easy to commute.
    I do hope Adnan stay dont have to deal with Spears family anymore, he are treated, unfare and bad, …

  42. gigi Says:

    Thanks MT. I could not turn my back on a friend just like he hasn’t. Good Luck Adnan. Wish there was something we could do but not sure there is. Hopefully your attorney can cut Jamie down to size and get you out of this.

  43. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Faint heart never maiden won but this is…

    ——-

    My heart is heavy.

    ——-

    MT you mentioned there must be a movie or a book that ran something like this. One movie is Titanic.

    “I’d rather be his slut than your whore,” spits Rose at her ex-fiance.

    It doesn’t end well from there.

    ——

    R. What’s the status on the tapes? Do you have any encouragement?

  44. Cloud Says:

    J.Spears is a racist bigot who covers that with fake fatherly lerrrve. ‘Dagnabit, ah’m a-looking aht fah mah li’l gal’s best interests.’ He is trying to lump Adnan with Lutfi. No proof that Adnan gave her a phone but, ‘them thar ayyy-rabs gotta be innit tahgaythah, them thar ayyy-rabs.’ Never mind that Adnan is disgusted by Lutfi and helped the Spears to remove Lutfi from BJS’s life. J.Spears is horrified BJS loves an ayyy-rab. ‘Nice southern gal got to be crazy to love an ayyy-rab y’all! Gol’ dahn it!’ Roll with it poppa.

  45. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Silence enables abuse. Don’t you know I came by that wisdom by experience?

    The one thing they have counted on in Adnan is his silence with the media. He would never do anything to hurt her.

    Adnan, I would now make a plea to consider what you can say to the press, to help her? Even if it was a simple expressed wish like I wish there were an objective outside investigator into the welfare of Britney Spears.

    There must be something you can say to the press to attract the attention of someone important, someone of influence, someone who is willing to risk their neck because they have little to lose or gain but hate to see injustice.

    Or make a few statements here and hope more than the E!s of the world pick it up.

  46. Fantasy Says:

    Amapola,hi. I’m sorry for using those words when I talked about Britney or women in general. I didn’t intend for it to sound disrespectful. I said that if Adnan ever wants to date someone else in the future (I don’t personally know if he is already dating someone else) that there are many other women out there. That is a fact. Britney isn’t the only option out there for him. And when I said the thing about dating a woman with money,that came out of me because there has always been speculation that the only reason that Adnan was interested in Britney is because she’s rich. I don’t know if that was ever a factor for him when their relationship went from just business to something personal. Whether it was or wasn’t I’m sorry for taking a negative view of their relationship and its basis. Last, when I said, “go for some other man’s daughter” I honestly didn’t mean for that to sound so dirty. It’s clear that Jamie doesn’t like Adnan. I don’t think he ever gave him a real chance. Why would anyone want to be involved with someone whose father despises you? This man,Jamie Spears, has gone out of his way to show his disdain for the man his daughter chose to be involved with. There are dad’s who are more open and accepting of their children’s partners. Jamie’s not that kind of man. Things will be smoother if you have a good standing with your girlfriend’s family. It wasn’t like that for them. They both got a lot of unfavorable judgment from the media,etc. when they were together. I wasn’t trying to add myself to that. If anyone was the slightest bit offended by my original statement I am sorry. I never meant to sound cruel about Britney or Adnan. They’re both in crappy situations they’d rather not be in. It seems that it would be best for both of them to not be in touch with one another. Too many bad things are happening. Just step away from the situation and spare yourself from the turmoil.

  47. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Cloud. You left out paparazzi.

    ——
    And then there is Adam Leber, an enabler and a witness to the abuse. So is everyone else but Adam is in a position of power, eminence, prominence.

    We all caught him on tape debasing Britney, “I don’t think you have found the man of your dreams, Britney.” Poor girl. How many people around her cause her self-doubt?

  48. Amethyst Mine Says:

    “‘Lutfi has suggested that Britney Spears’ parents do not have her best interests at heart, and his attorney appeared to echo those charges by asking her father several questions about whether his daughter was mentally fit enough to go on a planned tour to promote her new record. Jamie Spears acknowledged that his daughter was confused “sometimes,” but said she is ready to perform onstage.’”

    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-me-britney-father25-2009feb25,0,4265745.story

    Is Jamie a medical expert? What did he mean by confused? Who isn’t a little confused sometimes?

    I am so angry right now.

  49. Amethyst Mine Says:

    And what does Harriet Ryan mean he “acknowledged” she gets confused at times.

    Slanted journalism. I fucting hate L.A. today.

  50. Fantasy Says:

    Hey there,Amethsyt. You hate L.A. today? I hate that I’m pissing people off with what I say and how I say it. I feel like I’m at the top of people’s F U list.

  51. Amapola Says:

    “Cloud Says:
    February 26th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
    J.Spears is a racist bigot who covers that with fake fatherly lerrrve. ‘Dagnabit, ah’m a-looking aht fah mah li’l gal’s best interests.’ He is trying to lump Adnan with Lutfi. No proof that Adnan gave her a phone but, ‘them thar ayyy-rabs gotta be innit tahgaythah, them thar ayyy-rabs.’ Never mind that Adnan is disgusted by Lutfi and helped the Spears to remove Lutfi from BJS’s life.
    J.Spears is horrified BJS loves an ayyy-rab. ‘Nice southern gal got to be crazy to love an ayyy-rab y’all! Gol’ dahn it!’ Roll with it poppa.”
    ”””””””””””””””””’

    Thank you Cloud. Thank you. Feel good to read that´s someone else, who not have the blind spot when it come to the racism part on what happening to Adnan.

  52. Fantasy Says:

    Amapola. Did you read my reply? I hope I made things clearer for everyone.

  53. Amapola Says:

    AM Amethyst Mine Says:
    February 26th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
    ..
    …..
    ….
    We all caught him (Leber) on tape debasing Britney, “I don’t think you have found the man of your dreams, Britney.” Poor girl. How many people around her cause her self-doubt?”
    ”””””””

    I dont think she loose any self-doubt any longer of that treatment. I think she understand that they are pompous beast of prey, and that she have to stay calm and dont let them get into her brain.

    She get a lot of opprobrious comments every day, we have all heard on FTR..I admit, I am beglamoured of, that she have train up her ability to almost always holding her face and let their insults go out in the empty air.

    But I do think AM, that she get VERY stressed in the end of the day, by having to deal with this people.

  54. Amapola Says:

    “Fantasy Says:
    February 26th, 2009 at 2:07 pm Amapola. Did you read my reply? I hope I made things clearer for everyone.”

    Yes Fantasy :)

  55. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Fantasy. I haven’t read the last half hour so I haven’t read your post yet. Give me a few minutes? I think you only attracted Ama right?

  56. Amapola Says:

    So this on a site and they someone point out the hand…..

    http://i42.tinypic.com/2w398i8.jpg

  57. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Ama. Great post. I think that is what the song Mannequin is all about?

    She is a strong woman.

  58. MH Says:

    Evel, would really love to hear from you.

  59. MARK TWAIN Says:

    Word on the grapevine is that they needed Adnan’s help in order to finish filming the doc. Britney was uncooperative and things that Daddy Spear did not want filmed was cut. Adnan answered the call. Like a good dog he was given his treat. There’s no art in that Doc. Just lies. I feel sorry for the director. He’s just a puppet.

  60. Amapola Says:

    correction:
    Amapola Says:
    February 26th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    Saw this on a site, someone point out the hand…..

    http://i42.tinypic.com/2w398i8.jpg

  61. MH Says:

    please don’t tell me he was the interviewer?

  62. MH Says:

    do i need to go back and listen more closely? i don’t remember it sounding like him, but the question has been posed several times…who was the interviewer?

    this whole thing is so fuct up.

  63. gigi Says:

    humm interesting MT. If that is true then its worse than I even thought. Pops knows how to get her to do what he wants. He either holds the kids above her as a treat or Adnan. Then she seems to dance like a puppet so that she can have what she wants. I feel for both of them.

  64. MH Says:

    this is all just sickening. time for a nap.

  65. EDAWG Says:

    Lol. Twain you’re full of it.

  66. gigi Says:

    As far as confused goes, that can be used several different ways. What he said and what he meant were two totally different things.

  67. gigi Says:

    If Twain is so full of it then how does he almost always get it right even before we know it? He seems to have insider info. We have learned to listen and take notes. Seems you need to learn that lesson too ED

  68. EDAWG Says:

    almost

  69. doc1955 Says:

    No, really he’s not. And to answer your previous question, Mr. T, I have reason to believe a few of them are right here with us. Wouldn’t you agree?

    Speaking of fullness, that interviewer sure sounds alot like the one who interviewed Adnan re: the Quizno incident…but what do I know…

  70. EDAWG Says:

    Yes man

  71. gigi Says:

    Ed would you sacrifice your well being, job, life as you know it for anyone? If not then there is no way to understand what goes on when that happens. There are only two people I would do it for. Most people never care that much for another human. My hat is off to him that he seems to have given up his life for her.

  72. MARK TWAIN Says:

    Dont you know that your on here for entertainment value only Edawg. Your job is to magnify and compliment what I say by saying exactly what you say.

    Read a book… You might just learn something about yourself.

  73. gigi Says:

    In doing all that he has done and been through all that he has been through he has not talked to the press at all from what I’ve seen. No tape ever showed up. No damaging interview has ever surfaced. They all said he was after her money. There is no evidence of that that I’ve seen. No where did I see where she paid him to be with her. No where did I see that he was given anything by being there. Things have been taken away or given up but nothing paid. So what has he gotten out of all this. Nothing but heartache.

  74. EDAWG Says:

    Only for family gigi. Not for someone i was with for a couple month? Please. Awww, the learn something, read, history bullshit. Nice one.

  75. gigi Says:

    How did they get to be family? Born into it? Someone you married?

  76. EDAWG Says:

    You said anyone right? Or do you mean non relative?

  77. MARK TWAIN Says:

    Sorry Doc, Was that a question for me? Make it quick. It’s lunch time. That precious hour of having your life back if you know what I mean.

    you know I had a question for you last night regarding your comment about being a person of color. Color and struggle go hand in hand. Now why in the world would give the young man advice about giving up to powers that be.

  78. gigi Says:

    you said only for family. I meant anyone – family or not. I ask how they became family? You or them born into it or is it someone you married?

  79. EDAWG Says:

    Here we go with this race stuff. You think a racist would let a man see his daughter? Remember when he would let him in through the gate? What racist would do that? As soon as i had the right to let my daughter see anyone or whatever i would’ve ended it there. If i was racist. Makes sense?

  80. gigi Says:

    At first he played nice so he could win over the daughter so she would behave and he could then get her children back to hold over her head. Without letting her friend through the gate getting her under complete control without taking her screaming and kicking would have been impossible. Her friend worked with the family then was banished.

  81. doc1955 Says:

    kindasorta. my questions are almost always laced with sarcasm.

    Yes, I know – true.

    I dunno, sometimes I just get carried away.

    Either that, or it’s the tooth shattering thought of prison..or.. what is that called when your teeth shiver real fast..oh geez what’s word?…

    damn i’m high…forget it…

  82. MARK TWAIN Says:

    I said read a book. If you dont have the money to travel to Africa and see beautiful things, reading a book to bring you closer to that place is the next best thing.

    I dont expect much from junior high school kids.

  83. gigi Says:

    lol Twain

  84. MARK TWAIN Says:

    LOL! pass the ganja to the left hand side. My burger is about to taste like $20dollars.

  85. EDAWG Says:

    Pass junior high bro. I’m not a Britard. Junior high School, gay, i’m not.

  86. gigi Says:

    So Ed you have issues with gay people? Thats not nice.

  87. doc1955 Says:

    Race, class, and gender has everything to do with everything. Of course if Adnan was a white male things would be different. I wouldn’t expect anyone who isn’t a person of color to even try to understand that. He’s from fuggin Kentwood, LA. Nuff said. Makes no sense to argue about that.

  88. gigi Says:

    I agree Doc. In that part of the world its all about race, class and gender. There is nothing to argue about. If he was white he would still be going throught the gate.

  89. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Ed, you are forgetting your damn job.

  90. gigi Says:

    He has a Job? lol To comment against anything we say just to make it interesting? I see he dodged my question.

  91. EDAWG Says:

    No issues at all with gays. He wasn’t racist when he allowed them to see eachother. Don’t give me that kicking and screaming shit. I didn’t see racist Jamie on here then. All i saw YAY and AWWW. Now he’s a bigot cause he won’t let them see eachother. All of asudden the relationship is over and he wants him out he’s a racist son of a bitch. You weren’t saying that before, why now? Now that makes no sense.

  92. EDAWG Says:

    What question? What you talking about AM?

  93. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Ed. Jamie didn’t have a choice but to let him through the gates.

    And you have confused me with G. I didn’t ask you a question.

    Pay attention.

  94. gigi Says:

    Because before he was not showing his true self. He had to build an image. He had to build his daughters trust. Then he let his true self out and screwed up his daughters life and her friend. What parent wants to baby sit for a woman like he is doing. If she is able to remember the songs, dances and go on stage and perform then she should be free. She should also be able to see who ever she wants.

  95. gigi Says:

    Still didn’t answer the dang question I ask. Oh I forgot I ask two questions and he answered one.

  96. gigi Says:

    New questions Ed. Pay attention. What makes Adnan so bad as far as your concered. What you have against him? Did he do anything to you? Why do you not want him to be a free man? Why do you think he needs to stay away from Britney? Have you seen him harm her?

  97. doc1955 Says:

    Dammit Edawg! LoL… just the thought that Jamie feels “threatened” that Adnan is out to harm Britney when, as far as we know now, there is not much evidence to prove that case – the fact that he filed an RO on him, knowing how she may feel about him (in a romantic way)… – the fact that he is automatically associating him with Sam, when that may not indeed be the correct assumption for him to have…those are all undertones of bigotry.

  98. EDAWG Says:

    A guy that has control doesn’t have a choice? LOL, ok. It was 2 questions. I know you didn’t ask the question smarty pants. Nice try, fail.

  99. doc1955 Says:

    Did I miss something Gi? I don’t remember E being completely against A. Who here said they don’t want him to be a free man? I clearly think he needs to stay away from her, but just my personal opinion.

  100. gigi Says:

    gigi Says:
    February 26th, 2009 at 4:04 pm you said only for family. I meant anyone – family or not. I ask how they became family? You or them born into it or is it someone you married?

    Thats the question Ed

  101. gigi Says:

    But why should he stay away from her? Is there a reason or just because daddy dearest said so.

  102. missteacher Says:

    I have brought up the race issue before here too. It DOES matter to Daddy’s from the SOUTH….period!! What I am about to say it NOT my opinion but is the opinion of many Southern Daddys. For Britney to be with a man or Arab descent is probably considered worse than any other race to Jamie. I mean if she brought home a Hispanic guy or a Black guy her Daddy would be mad but this is even worse to him. Some people may not want to believe that but it really is true. If this was a white guy, he would not be in this position.

  103. MARK TWAIN Says:

    Like the part when Daddy Spears said she gets confused. Then he reaches in his back pocket and pulls out a photo of the boys and waves it at her. Then Britney is no longer confused. Oh no sir! She’s tap dancin like she has never tapped danced before.

    “Gay”? Sorry Ed I was wrong about ‘Jr High’. I know realize that your a ‘High School Scrub’. I don’t mind being corrected as long as it’s true.

  104. MARK TWAIN Says:

    Hey Ed, would you believe me if I tell you that Daddy Spears is bank rolling a paparazzi agency?

  105. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Thank you missteacher. I did not know the Southern hierarchy beyond who is lower than a black woman in the South, to a white Southern Daddy or man. Now I do.

  106. Rose Says:

    So the lights are bright! for those who can see.

  107. EDAWG Says:

    I’m a high school scrub cause we don’t see eye to eye. OK.

  108. MARK TWAIN Says:

    OK good folks and good friends and Ed. I must step outside and get some fresh air before getting back to work. It’s the end of the month and I hate papers.

  109. EDAWG Says:

    Born into gigi.

  110. EDAWG Says:

    Kinda like Adnan did Mark?

  111. MARK TWAIN Says:

    No, because you talk like one. To use “Gay” to insult is very popular with high school kids.

    Read a book. It’s a journey at every turn of the page. then you might learn something about life outside of your own.

  112. doc1955 Says:

    Lol…AM tell please tell me you were kidding.

  113. Amethyst Mine Says:

    High school scrub high school scrub high school

  114. gigi Says:

    So Ed you have never cared for another human that is outside your family that you would give your life for if you had to choose? That could be one reason you dont understand. Until you have been there you can’t understand.

    Yes Am MissTeacher is right. In the South its just not right and you have to do something about it.

  115. MARK TWAIN Says:

    Come on ED. You have to answer the question better than that. We’re in physics and you’re doing advance addition.

    Again, would you believe me if I tell you that Daddy Spears is bank rolling a ‘Paparazzi Agency’?

  116. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Anyone know why X17 is running with the date of March 18th as the TRO extension date?

  117. EDAWG Says:

    I said “gay” after you called me a junior high school kid.

  118. EDAWG Says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised. Isn’t 80% of celebs working with agencys?

  119. EDAWG Says:

    Celebs fly out of the country on a private jet and blam, there’s a pap. It’s common sense.

  120. doc1955 Says:

    Oh heavens no! Lol! I really doubt the good people of Kentwood take the time to distinguish what level of bigotry they will disclose based upon where you are Arab, Black, Indian, Hispanic…lol… seriously?….were you serious about this thought AM and missT? I also don’t think it is necessary worse because he’s an Arab… racists don’t have time for all that damn division stuff…hell…it’s either or….field or house… in or out… it’s just that damn simple.

  121. Amethyst Mine Says:

    (takes a moment. I love MT’s writing and smarts)

    but right now I have to kill a bug – serious.

  122. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Doc. I heard that from a very successful black plastic surgeon here. He was talking about his grandmother and the feat she was.

  123. Amethyst Mine Says:

    And I’m white Doc, from the Pacific Northwest, hadn’t had the exposure so the Doctor took a moment to explain Atlanta and hierarchy.

    I am a student of the rest.

  124. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I did hear from a Southerner in Raleigh, NC, that foreigners were welcome in the South because it was presumed they would spend money and go home.

    Marriage or a boyfriend is a different scene. I am learning from missteacher and others in way I couldn’t from Ama.

  125. doc1955 Says:

    LoL. WoW.

    Sometimes I wish we could all have a round table discussion – because I honestly think you are typing that with a straight face. And that is hilarious to me!

  126. gigi Says:

    no one understands how it really is until you live it. The kids are raised in it and then they get outside of the Southern area and have no idea things are different there. The adults get outside the Southern area and try to make others live up to their standards.

  127. missteacher Says:

    Hey what I said about that is seriously true. A Southern man would hate any guy his daughter brought home…..make him Hispanic and he might get over it someday….make him Black and he might or might not get over it….make him Arab and he is not going to have that. Sad…..but true…..

  128. gigi Says:

    I agree msteacher

  129. Amethyst Mine Says:

    At the time Doc I was wondering why my darker Turkish boyfriend was better received than I in some situations in North Carolina. True he was charming and had a beautiful accent but…

    btb, the same man who explained to me about foreigners did not want to hire a candidate of mine because he was black. I took him to task.

    The same man also cautioned me and told me to stop asking questions about the Wizard. The Wizard had an office building in the backroads between Raleigh and Charlotte. It was stunning to see it. Blatant.

    Doc. I didn’t grow up with any of that. Is my naivete so stunning? Is my level of education too? What about my sense of idealism? And then there’s me writing for the BPs. It’s not quite counter-intuitive just not what anyone would expect.

  130. gigi Says:

    It just goes to show you the difference we have in the USA between the north, south, east and west.

  131. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Pretty funny G. I once worked as a national technical recruiter.

    I was helping someone in Tennessee and they said, “They like them lily white.”

    I scratched my head over this “technical term” searching for a programming term that sounded like that to avoid revealing I had never heard of this skill.

  132. meathead Says:

    Interesting pseudo-intellectual dialogue going on here. In summary, it’s “uncool” to be bigoted unless you want to be bigoted and generalize about the south. Yup, that makes perfect sense.

  133. gigi Says:

    glad it makes sense to you meathead. That must mean you live in the South. Otherwise you would not understand at all.

  134. Amethyst Mine Says:

    meatee, you too are entertainment.

    LOL!

  135. meathead Says:

    GiGi, per usual, swoosh, over your head.

  136. meathead Says:

    Wanna know the number one reason this site has, what, 5 bloggers? NARROWMINDEDNESS. You 4 or 5 carry on with your little view of the world and who the bad guys and good guys are. As much as it must hurt to be wrong, I know you’ll continue to spread your special little opinions while ridiculing others. Why not? What else have you to do? And Doc, by all means, keep using the F word incessantly. It really helps to give this site credibility. Goodbye.

  137. Amethyst Mine Says:

    That’s ok meatee. Ed is entertainment enough.

    LOL. Thank you Ronnie!

  138. EDAWG Says:

    Hardy har har.

  139. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Thank you, Ed. :)

  140. MARK TWAIN Says:

    Ed avoided the question entirely. I wonder why?

    And Meathead…. I would rather be narrow minded living outside the box than be open minded living in it. We see this story from the outside looking in. You see this story from the inside looking out. How else would you Britney fans know how happy she is now?

    School some more.

  141. EDAWG Says:

    So Jamie has a deal with some agency. And? If he had a deal with you guys. It’ll be Team Jamie in this bitch.

  142. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Ed, you go on to prove me. You’re the best!

  143. Amethyst Mine Says:

    For you my sweet Ed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbt30UnzRWw

  144. EDAWG Says:

    You suck dude, seriously.

  145. Amethyst Mine Says:

    :) Laugh at yourself. It’s healthy.

  146. MARK TWAIN Says:

    Not a deal. BANK ROLL!

    The very people he said that destroyed the image of his daughter. The calls they make to city law enforcement when they need them and use tax payers money. Use the LAPD and trick the paparazzi when Jamie Lynn Arrived at LAX. The very scene of her being escorted by law enforcement to Cedar Sanai And yet he bank rolls an agency. The hypocracy and the truth about the mans integrity and character. The people, the law enforcement, the city of Los Angeles and it’s tax payers have been fooled by this man. he wants to touch everything that will make money with Britney Spears.

    And your answer Edawg… You dont have any.

    Best thing about all of this is thats you will have all these names that will pop up here and there who will testify against Adnan. They’ve been gathering all of these so called characters for a year now. It’s no secret on the streets. We know about daddy’s gifts.

    The street scene is covered. Using the knowledge that they gained from their paparazzi agency, they will use everyone and anyone who is willing to smear Adnans name. Ohh and there tons of these cat in line waiting to be a sucker thinking daddy will have them for dinner one day, LOL!!!! It’s amazing.

    This is bigger than you think Edawg. I dont think you have any clue.

  147. EDAWG Says:

    So Jamie is putting money into an agency? I don’t believe that at all. If Adnan is getting railroaded now/soon and you seem to think you know everything about it. Why can’t you guys fight fire with fire? You got the dirt supposably. Why not use it against Jamie and help him out. You guys just gonna let him fuck Adnan over when you know the dirt? Or is there a code or something?

  148. Amethyst Mine Says:

    ed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRvH46znDdU&feature=related

  149. EDAWG Says:

    I don’t get the vid sorry.

  150. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Guess you cannot read between the lines. Ed.

  151. EDAWG Says:

    Not with that stupid ass video.

  152. MH Says:

    MT, For a long time you have been throwing out bits of info here and there. When I asked why you don’t just tell what you know, even anonymously, you said it wasn’t that easy. Hasn’t enough gone on by now that opening your mouth fully is called for? You are a father right…wouldn’t you hope people would step up if it was your kid. It seems parts of the story might benefit Adnan as well.

    There is a part of me that has a hard time thinking he’s in this for the money and not just trying to help his daughter. And another part that thinks it’s such a sick and crazy story, but having seen a glimmer of how Hollywood and selfish, self centered people in the industry tick, it’s all very possible. Sick, sick, sick.

  153. EDAWG Says:

    Snitches get stitches,lol.

  154. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Ed. I shouldn’t be trusted by you and your friends.

    Insight burns bright for some.

    I don’t like you in case that light was dim.

  155. Amethyst Mine Says:

    MH. Money aside, this is the most important he has felt since… respected, important, his opinion matters. He is congratulated on sobriety. He is cheered on and told what a great job he’s doing with this race horse. Ah hell it’s all in the oats.

  156. doc1955 Says:

    What exactly would be beneficial in Mr. T fully opening his mouth?

  157. Amethyst Mine Says:

    About as much benefit as lyrics for Ed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDt42Vs-teI&feature=related

  158. Cloud Says:

    Read your own news agency website ego-dawg.
    http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/02/26/hate.groups.report/index.html

  159. Cloud Says:

    Evel is in Victoria. Bush fire areas.

  160. MARK TWAIN Says:

    Everyone in the industry knows, not a big secret. Secret to you people but not here. 75 percent of the things I’ve said everyone knows on this side of the isle. It is amazing in itself. It’s just the way it is. No one likes turning away gifts. Everyone in line waiting for the big red box. The brand, it’s what everyone wants. You have to play ball with the ringleader.

  161. MARK TWAIN Says:

    High School Kid said it best….

    EDAWG Says:
    February 26th, 2009 at 7:46 pm So Jamie has a deal with some agency. And? If he had a deal with you guys.

    “It’ll be Team Jamie in this bitch”.

    The money and the power….. You control everything, got city officials, PD’s and councilman sympathetic to Jamie Spears. Then blame it on the Paps when things go bad. It’s a sham. LOL!!!! City got duped.

  162. Amethyst Mine Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTWSSCYUD4E&feature=related

    Fugazi

  163. Amethyst Mine Says:

    ‘City got duped.’

    There are people who can change that.

  164. EDAWG Says:

    “What exactly would be beneficial in Mr. T fully opening his mouth?”

    What’s the whole point in crying about something if you’re not gonna do anything about it? Twain sits up here and bitch about how jamie is fucking over everything yet twain and his friends know the truth and everything. So you’re gonna take your gifts and shit while your friend gets fucked over by jamie?

    Don’t know what a kkk/Obama article has anything to do with this. I didn’t even bother reading it. Another Jamie is racist rant?

  165. missteacher Says:

    Good evening all! I can’t play with you guys tonight….I stayed up too late shopping on Ebay and now I have to go to bed so I can get enough sleep to be able take care of my heathen children when they wake at the crack in the morning ;-) Awww….I sure do love being home with my toddler and preschooler but by the time Friday gets here…I need some strong margaritas or a good bottle of vino! I’ll see you all tomorrow night! Have fun this evening and…..TEAM BRITNAN!!!! (I usually say Team Adnan but I am feeling more like Team Britnan lately since it seems that is what he would want these days :-) )

  166. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Ed’s snoring. Damn. That’s loud. (snickers)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXgwLDlhVGo

  167. missteacher Says:

    Oh and about this comment:

    “Another Jamie is racist rant?”

    That was not a rant earlier about Jamie being a racist. He was bred that way. It is just another piece of this whole “thorn in the side” attitude he has towards Adnan. Jamie is the ultimate hypocrite…..

    He treated his family like crap and disrespected his postion as a father. Now he wants to come back in and call the shots and say she can’t see Adnan because he could hurt her….as if Jamie hasn’t hurt her enough already!! She is a product of her parents’ raising…he should be pointing the finger at himself for the “issues” she has….ESPECIALLY the issues she has with men! Jamie Spears taught his daughter what she should look for in a husband by his own actions when she was growing up. Now, she has this normal, morally stable, and family-oriented guy who wants to STICK BY HER and it makes him feel like crap because Jamie never wanted to be there for her until he saw a pay day! How sick is it to help your daughter…..your own flesh and blood….through such a tough time and get PAID for it!?!?! He should have declined the money….oh wait he had that oh so lucrative catering business that he had to ditch to do this gig…that’s right! He was making SO much money doing that……puuuuuleeeeeeazzzzzzeeeeeeee! G’NIGHT!!!!!!!!

  168. EDAWG Says:

    Yeah you’ve always felt that way. I’m sure.

  169. EDAWG Says:

    Terrible taste in music. Sorry i don’t get the trash you put here through youtube. It’d be nice if you say what you gotta say. Only YOU get that shit you call bands.

  170. small hands Says:

    There has been a lot of talking tonight. I missed it. A very long day. I will check in tomorrow.

  171. MARK TWAIN Says:

    So Ed. What you think about Jamie bank rolling a pap agency? I baited you and I let you say all you want. But what do you say about a person who blames the paps but bank rolls an agency that he calls his own. At this point you know I aint bullshitin. So what you say? You have not said anything about it other than turn the question around.

    What do you think of his game now? Stop asking me about what I’m going to do about. I’m doing what I’m doing. So what ya say about this hypocracy?

    Now dont answer me with a question? it’s a simple question about Daddy Spear. So what you think.

  172. Amapola Says:

    What do you think?
    How do you read it?
    She is hot, or she is burning up?

    http://i41.tinypic.com/332nui1.jpg

    Britney has picked a winner!!

    Congratulations to Ronnie, whose awesome wallpaper design was chosen by Britney herself, during a break from tour rehearsal, to be the official wallpaper of BritneySpears dot com

  173. Amapola Says:

    corrections:

    “Britney has picked a winner!!

    Congratulations to Ronnie, whose awesome wallpaper design was chosen by Britney herself, during a break from tour rehearsal, to be the official wallpaper of BritneySpears dot com ”

    (I forget the quotation marks)

  174. doc1955 Says:

    ADNAN NEXT TIME U FEEL SAD OR A LITTLE BLUR JUST BLAZE TO THIS I PROMISE U WILL FEEL BETEER & GOOD LUCK

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luQ8XIv184A

  175. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Nosey. I thought the BBC was credible until I started scrutinizing them.

    The BBC reported that Adnan plead guilty to the charges. Of Eardley they said, “But the judge has repeatedly refused to have Mr Eardley dismissed from the case.”

  176. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Doc. You freed me from angst.

  177. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Is this true?

    “Although there was no restraining order in place at the time of the December messages, Lutfi had signed a formal agreement to stay away from Spears. Romero, whose role in Spears’ life ranges from attaching her hair extensions to accompanying her to the movies, said she ignored the texts and kept them from the singer. But in late December, Spears picked up the beautician’s phone by accident and discovered some texts.”

    I hadn’t heard that she picked up the phone by accident.

    http://articles.latimes.com/2009/02/26/metro/me-britney26

  178. gigi Says:

    I have no idea if its true or not but that sounds like she has been using the beauticians phone when she is in there. That would be one way to get around daddy dearest I guess. Just use other peoples phone when you doing your hair and nails. Wonder who she was calling or texting when she found those??

  179. nosey Says:

    Amethyst, I guess ALL reporting can get like Chinese whispers unless its straight from the horses mouth!

  180. Amethyst Mine Says:

    G. One wonders if Harriet was even in the same courtroom as the other reporters.

    As usual, somebody is lying.

    Or maybe Romero caught her using her phone and Britney told her oops sorry I picked your phone by accident.

    Harriet seems to have an agenda. Her poor Jamie Spears article is one example.

    “A fair-minded reader of Times news coverage should not be able to discern the private opinions of those who contributed to that coverage, or to infer that the newspaper is promoting any agenda.”

    MT. How does it work? How does this kind of media coverage snake back into the courtroom and impact decisions?

  181. Amethyst Mine Says:

    MT or Doc. More questions, please.

    How did Adnan come to split from FinalPixx? What was on the grapevine?

    The pics X17 took of Britney this week. Gifts? Gag gifts?

  182. Amethyst Mine Says:

    http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/27/britney-spears-sam-lutfi/

  183. small hands Says:

    AM, thank you for that link. Didn’t Jamie Spears say that he suspected CityGal301(or something like that) was Sam? In the text messages posted it sounds as though Sam is saying it isn’t him.
    And why does Sam have to do that to Adnan! Well, I know why, but still.

    MT, EDawg won’t answer, but I will. I believe Jamie is bankrolling his very own pap agency. Hypocrisy at it’s finest.

  184. Amethyst Mine Says:

    small, I believe Sam too claimed he got messages from CityGal.

    “I believe Jamie is bankrolling his very own pap agency. Hypocrisy at it’s finest.”

    Yep.

  185. Fantasy Says:

    This is all so bizarre. The more things come to light the more bizarre it all looks. The process server is saying that Adnan could have killed him. I couldn’t believe what I was reading. Was Adnan that hell bent on avoiding being served papers that he freaked the hell out and ran this guy down? I’m completely on Adnan’s side. But this server guy is making A sound like a mad man. People lie under oath all the time. This man isn’t telling exactly how things happened. When Jamie got served last week it wasn’t at night in some narrow, dark alley. The whole thing sounded absurd from the start. Are there any witnesses from that night that can support Adnan’s defense? What is Adnan’s defense?

  186. MH Says:

    The incident was un the morning wasn’t it?

    Just trying to keep the facts straight.

  187. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Fantasy. Where are you reading this?

    And now New Zealand. http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/27/sam-lutfi-britney-spearsterrorized-a-kid-allegedly/

  188. small hands Says:

    I thought it was in the morning too.

  189. MH Says:

    >>>What is Adnan’s defense?

    I don’t think he reported the incident, right? So lets say he took off out of fear, it’s still at minimum hit n run.

    I think the pecentage of serious cases in LA County that plead out are in the high 80’s to low 90’s.

  190. small hands Says:

    I think fantasy is reading this on TMZ.

  191. Fantasy Says:

    I hate to admit this but I read it on TMZ. Yes,TMZ. I know,i know. Shame on me. Strawberry, right? (I still don’t know what that means.) TMZ had a “Blow-By-Blow” account of the process server’s version of what happened. I thought the incident occured at night. Sorry if I was wrong about that. I just wrote something in the comment section on the main page here. I think I’ll just shut up and keep my thoughts to myself from now on.

  192. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Thanks Biggie, I got it. http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/27/adnan-ghalib-britney-spears-court/

  193. MH Says:

    Fan, You are not alone…I think most everyone here reads TMZ.

  194. Amethyst Mine Says:

    It’s on the front page now JFX.

  195. Amethyst Mine Says:

    MH, per TMZ, “Adnan allegedly fled the scene and the process server called cops at 10:42 AM.”

  196. MH Says:

    So did the guy jump on the car to avoid being pinned between a trash truck or did he get hit and end up on the hood or did he blah blah blah….

    something in one of mt’s posts leaves me wondering if the case will be dropped.

  197. MH Says:

    i would love to see the video

  198. Amethyst Mine Says:

    http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=206977632

  199. MARK TWAIN Says:

    Army or lawyers and their 6 degrees of sepreation and their web. The same as the pap agency. The city and the indusrty is on lock down for Adnan.

    Everything thats is going on with Sam is to smear his name and make him as evil as possible. Now parading Britney around or should we say the safe word of accompanying her during those times did not help his image. Thats as simple as it can get for team Jamie.

    With Adnan, they will use violence as his downfall. They will use other paps to testify about his charcter and violence. They will dig up his past and get more stroy of his violent behavior. This is the only thing they will pin him on because they have nothing else on him.

    Right now, Team Jamie is on the attack. They will finds ways to undermine anything that Sam will counter with. For instance the New Zealand guy with the text and email story and pretending to be Britney. Which TMZ posted the with “alledge”… LOL! I’m wondering a bit if these were AD buys ,lol! or maybe the connection of the brotherhood of the attorneys.

    That is a perfect way to attack him later when he tries and show proof of text and email. They will say that he made them up and pretended to be someone else. Remember what mr. New Zealand said? Well atleast that how the schematics is starting to look.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFo2fjxHJBQ&feature=related

  200. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Biggie. I think you have little ones. I don’t. I post links with you in mind.

    http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b102128_britney_court_circus_sam_attempts.html

  201. Amethyst Mine Says:

    On the domestic front, my mother assures me that my father would never have done the things Jamie has done.

    That was her reaction upon hearing Jamie went through Britney’s purse and other actions taken by Mr. Spears.

    His actions are creepy, inappropriate, and America watches on.

  202. Amethyst Mine Says:

    “America watches on”

    Most people don’t know or care what’s happening.

    My mother has only heard good news, nothing negative. She lives in a city that is bigger than Bellevue, Washington.

  203. gigi Says:

    Am that picture of that guy is creepy.

  204. Amethyst Mine Says:

    That’s no teenager G.

  205. small hands Says:

    Definitely not a teenager.

    No one has given a good reason why Adnan needs to have a restraining order. The violence he is accused of is after a TRO has been filed.

    To Jamie, isn’t it possible Britney has doubts about you because of what she sees from you? It’s possible she thinks of this stuff without the help of others. She is able to think right? Or do you control that too?
    ’til tomorrow folks :)

  206. small hands Says:

    Fantasy, don’t hold anything back. Express yourself.

  207. gigi Says:

    No Am thats not a teenager. Still its a creepy picture if that is the real person they are talking about.

  208. MARK TWAIN Says:

    Maybe Sam was doing his job. But because of the way they have made him in the eyes of the media is that anything or everything he does is evil. If that is the person and is just some fan then the man is acyually doing his job. any celebrity who has to worry about being contacted by anyone has to go through PR and management. How this guy got in contact with Britney is creepy in itself. And were not even talking about stalkers and crazed fans. Dont know this person or what category he belongs in.

    It’s all the PR workings. It’s up to you to buy them.

  209. Amapola Says:

    “”MARK TWAIN Says:
    February 28th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
    Maybe Sam was doing his job.”
    …….. (Sam doing his job for whom?)

    “But because of the way they have made him in the eyes of the media is that anything or everything he does is evil.”
    ….. (But he, and I talk about Sam, is not a person who care of anybody than himself, he is not able to do so, he just play concerned, because he have act on what people like to see in a human being. He use every kind of emossion to get to his goal, crying, verbal abuse and so on, and I do think he can change his mood very quickly, if he notice that his current externalizations/emotions is not “working”.)

    “If that is the person”…… (you talk about that strange guy in new zeeland here?)
    “and is just some fan then the man is acyually doing his job.”
    ….( I do not understand what you mean, which man doing his job? Sam or the new z man? What job and for whom?)

    “any celebrity who has to worry about being contacted by anyone has to go through PR and management.
    How this guy got in contact with Britney is creepy in itself.”
    …….. (Is that what you mean by Sam doing his job, for himself or for whom?)

    “And were not even talking about stalkers and crazed fans. Dont know this person or what category he belongs in.
    It’s all the PR workings. It’s up to you to buy them.”

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘
    MT, I do not understand who you alludes to in many of the meaning in your comment.
    Of corse, if everybody else understood who you alludes to, and what you mean, then it do depend of me.
    But I do not understand.
    Could you please tell me, and I do mean it, not playing “not understand”.

  210. Amapola Says:

    correction:
    “He use every kind of emotion…. “

  211. Amapola Says:

    I do sincerely hope that people here DON´T start believe Sam Lutfi, ever.

    Very scary thought, very VERY scary, if so.

  212. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Ama, yes, he’s talking about this guy,

    http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=206977632

    in this story

    http://www.jfxonline.com/jfxonline/2009/02/27/sams-reign-of-terror/#respond

    and this exchange

    http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/lufti_accusations_wm.swf

  213. Amapola Says:

    AM

    Why not MT answer himself?
    Why do you answer?

    Do you mean that MT ?????, claim that Adnan have work with Sam Lutfi, in any way?

    I Do Not belive That Have Happend.

    This start to sound too crazy.
    Do you really mean MT do belive Sam Lutfi?

    Have to wait until MT answer himself.

  214. Fantasy Says:

    I’ve gone back and looked at the pictures of Adnan from last week. I didn’t realize just how sad he looked. His eyes were a little puffy. His expression is pained. I wonder if he was able to get any sleep the night before. Doubt it. :( I hope he’s coping well despite everything. Also, I would like to know why 7 years is the amount of time he could face. From what I was able to find out through Google (Umm hmm. I’m at that again)the battery charge (in Calif.) penalty is $2,000 or 6 months incarceration. The H and R charges penalty is no less than $1,000 no more than $10,000 fine and/or no longer than 1 year of time to serve. The assault w/ a weapon charge is the more serious charge. Maybe that’s where the #7 stems from? Any legal eagles out there? I know Google isn’t the best reference there is but it’s all I’ve got.

  215. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I was tootling along today and saw this:

    http://www.heatworld.com/Article/3839/New video – see the moment Britney fell for Adnan

    Combine that with what Fantasy noticed and …reminds me why we are here.

  216. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Ama, I happened to be online, thought I would be a Good Samaritan and not keep you in suspense as to what he was writing about.

    Heaven forbid that I ever speak for MT. tsk.

  217. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Fantasy, it’s at 245?

    http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/244.php

    Still doesn’t say 7 yrs.

  218. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Fantasy. I have compared the look in Adnan’s eyes to Omar Sharif.

    grrrr of the tiger, Adnan. :) I know I know just try it.

  219. Fantasy Says:

    Where did the media get 7 from? Oh, how they exaggerate things. I remember that night of them at the mural then the hotel. Hmm.I wonder what happened to Carla that night? Was 3 a crowd or…nah. :)

  220. Fantasy Says:

    Adnan’s name is written on Britney’s driver’s side glass window. Can’t believe I just noticed that. When she got into his car and they were talking to each other it looked (based on eye contact and body language) as if there was already a familiarity.

  221. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I agree and if you look back you’ll find more connections. They weren’t together but they were amicable toward each other.

    And I might be wrong but seems as much as he photographed her he looked out for her.

    Got to go.

  222. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Fantasy. I don’t know if he looks so tired as to, “So this is what you want.”

  223. small hands Says:

    I remember watching the video back then. Never noticed his name on her window until now.

    Hi Steel…just in case you are still lurking. I miss reading your thoughts.

  224. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Me, lurk? Never! ;)

    Just watching and thinking. Lots of thinking.

    Especially about the voice at 2:10:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fQ30IxHoKw&NR=1

  225. Amethyst Mine Says:

    “Later the next day, on January 29, Jackie showed me a text message she had received from Sam: ‘Thanks for telling Jamie all your bulls–t. He just hit me. Now you guys did your deed. Much accomplished. Good job.’”

  226. MH Says:

    Ronnie,

    Will the rest of the audio be released?

    What ever happened with your case?

    What happened to all of her dogs?

    …and good thoughts going out to A.

  227. Fantasy Says:

    Watching the FTR link from Steel Magnolia really bothers me. If Britney ever is released from the c-ship she should clean house and dispose of those a_holes who laughed at her. Too bad she’s got to deal with them on top of everything else she deals with. The voice at 2:10 isn’t one I recognize. At first I thought I did. But I don’t think it sounds exactly like who I thought it could have been.

  228. Amethyst Mine Says:

    You can hear the same voice in FTR when Britney is in NY. She replies, “We’d need security.”

    I don’t recognize the voice.

  229. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    There may be more than one voice asking questions throughout the film.

    (Watch how many different shirts she wears throughout the various interviews!)

  230. gigi Says:

    Fantasy if you look back before that clip was taped and find her going to the gas stations for gas or to get coffee you can see her staying in her car sometimes and a pap goes to pump gas for her or goes in to get coffee for her. That was our A. Always a gentleman. He would pump the gas and go into the store to get whatever it was that she wanted and brought it to her so that she did not have to get out in that madhouse. There is also an older video of them hugging at a restaurant. I think that one is about a year older than the video of her looking for the camera card.

  231. Amethyst Mine Says:

    G. It’s a hotel they are hugging at with her in the green dress after he has helped her find where she wants to go. Very cute. Long day I imagine.

    I don’t remember a restaurant hugging.

  232. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Could be me Steel but sounds like the same voice?

    “Do I know my life is weird?” Her reply to the same voice throughout the vid asking her questions.

    IMO. If you think you are on to something say it.

    I may be really dumb or really smart.

  233. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    MARK TWAIN Says:
    February 26th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    Word on the grapevine is that they needed Adnan’s help in order to finish filming the doc. Britney was uncooperative and things that Daddy Spear did not want filmed was cut. Adnan answered the call. Like a good dog he was given his treat. There’s no art in that Doc. Just lies. I feel sorry for the director. He’s just a puppet.

    Plus

    MARK TWAIN Says:
    October 21st, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    I’m right here.
    And yes, Shakespeare is all smiles. How about a song for Romeo And Juliet….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKwgWsZYBYo

    Plus

    MARK TWAIN Says:
    December 13th, 2008 at 4:21 pm

    …‘Thumbs Up’ to MTV peeps.
    Not the documentary.
    Bold and daring.
    ‘Mission Impossible’ like.
    Nice story amongs friends.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    This topic just keeps coming up.

    October 13th looks like a good date to start from. Or not. Who knows.

  234. Amethyst Mine Says:

    “She’s worked really, really hard to make this good. Granted, there’ve been some hiccups along the way, but she’s going to put on a good show. I just hope there are people there to see it,” says the source. “This is really her last chance.”

    bullshit. Do you think this is her last chance? Sounds parental. Condescending. Bitchey.

  235. Fantasy Says:

    Clearly whoever it is asking her the questions has a British accent. I’ve only watched FTR once in it entirety. I didn’t like it much because I felt like the record didn’t get set straight. I didn’t think that she was being completely honest with some of her answers. But I just let it go because I knew that she still wasn’t ready to go deeply into certain topics. I know it isn’t any of my business BUT I question whether or not her therapy sessions are helping her. Actually, I question if she even goes to therapy. I hope she’s talking through her issues and not just being given meds every month or so. That does happen a lot. Back to FTR. I can recall Britney being filmed much earlier than the day of the VMA’s last September. Like going to restaurants,dance rehearsals, and the trip to Mexico. I would say like late spring (May/June 2008) through late summer (Sep. 2008) I think in the docu it says that the filming took place over,what, 90 days? Yet the docu begins with footage taped on the day of the VMA’s. My math can’t be that fuzzy. I know it isn’t.

  236. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Steel. It doesn’t sound like him to me.

  237. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Filming appeared to start in July 2008. At least.

    I don’t know who it is asking the questions. But whoever it is got her to drop the facade and get some great footage. That’s all any director wants – tears.

  238. Amethyst Mine Says:

    “I didn’t think that she was being completely honest with some of her answers.”

    Fantasy. This presumes anything honest or deep enough for you was shown to viewers.

  239. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Girl has a Southern accent…So any time I hear her answer without the Southern accent, I immediately think to myself that she’s reciting from the “script” that her management has dreamed up for her.

  240. Fantasy Says:

    If something goes wrong on the tour concerning Britney I believe she’ll still have another chance to show if she really wants to continue in showbiz or not. She’s just one of those rare celebs that no matter how many mistakes they make personally of professionally people will always want to see her pick up the pieces and give it another try. Elizabeth Taylor is an example. She was written off so many times for having love affairs with her married co-stars and friend’s husbands and starring in movies that flopped. But she always came back after every single setback. She just turned 77 and people still love her and talk about her. To me, this isn’t a make or break tour. Britney’s not going to be done unless she says so.

  241. Fantasy Says:

    Even hard core Britney fans know that FTR was a 90 minute infomercial designed specifically to sale cd’s. It was never meant to be a bare my soul kind of thing. Her people have never allowed the real Britney to be seen. Why would they now?

  242. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Fantasy, I agree. Mickey Rourke is another example. Heck, some people still want to give Michael Jackson another chance.

    Okay, thought I’d drop in for a bit. Now I’ll make like a bird and flock off. :)

  243. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Sorry. Cheesy. Just can’t help myself I guess.

  244. Fantasy Says:

    Bye, St. Mag.

  245. small hands Says:

    Steel—I am so glad to read your thoughts. Thank you for that link. That part of FTR ALWAYS bothered me because of the people around her telling her how things should be or how she should feel. Then you have Britney crying. It was sad.

    Fantasy—I agree. She is here to stay I believe.

  246. small hands Says:

    The better question might be “does she want to stay?” I sometimes don’t think she does.

  247. MH Says:

    Carl? Nah.

  248. MH Says:

    Is Clint British?

  249. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    I have a feeling there’s two people asking questions. But it’s just a feeling.

    To the first, she gives guarded answers. She’s stand-offish, and will crinkle her nose when answering.

    The other? When she talks to that person, her eyes light up. Watch her in the red turtleneck, and red T-shirt (I think). Then look at the corresponding photos from those days. She looks happy:

    http://www.jfxonline.com/jfxonline/2008/10/21/does-the-ring-tell-a-tale/

    The dates seem to match. Third week in October.

    I could be wrong though. Who knows.

  250. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    MH, He sounded British in the Paintball video. If we’re talking about the same person.

  251. Amapola Says:

    I felt that I got a lot of information from FTR.
    If you look at Britneys respons to the talk on the office on Zomba (Leber and Rydoph)…
    They talk about she have been with them for 10 years.

    Her eyes, her very very small smile, her not so enthusiastic sound in her comment.
    Then it come to the second clip, when they lifted her up so she could write her name over the door to the office.
    She get in a more laughing mode then, because of the situation.

    But before….
    Lots of moments like that in FTR.

    Lots of moments like that, when one can see that in that time, they had not succeeded to broke her down.

    In facxty, the whole doc. show howe small people they are, and how strong she is.

    She have all this people to handle. Strong women.

    (And I have to say, this nanny who I before was angry on, she is a strong women. She deman, yes, with resolute voice, that Jamie Spears should take this, for the kids very scary mask of him (halloween).
    - “Take it off!” Take It OFF!”
    Then he understand.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    (I saw on you tube, the back on, who i think was a man, with long long black hair and grey/white hair on the sides. Think he maybe could be on of the ones who ask her questions. Don’t know, just saw that man (?) on Ftr 1/2, or Ftr 2/2 (short versions of FTR)

  252. Amapola Says:

    corrections:
    “…..In fact, the whole doc….”

  253. MH Says:

    yes steel, we’re talking about the same person. him and his partner were just a thought.

    the paint video is dead, can’t see it.

  254. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    MH, If it were him and his partner, they were likely made to sign Confidentiality Agreements before participating…which would explain why they can’t just come out and talk about it. And why other people may use this as a forum instead. Just a thought.

  255. small hands Says:

    Can those who signed confidentiality agreements ever be subpoenaed in court to testify about anything? Just wondering….the wheels in my head are turning….
    Steel..you lurk? Never ;)

  256. gigi Says:

    we all lurk from time to time. I know I do. There are days I just have nothing to say except TEAM ADNAN so I lurk. :)

  257. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    Has everyone seen the clip of Brit that Perez just posted? The one of her in a cage?

    WOW!!

  258. small hands Says:

    LOL gigi….me too ;)

  259. small hands Says:

    I haven’t seen it.
    Is it part of her tour?

  260. Amethyst Mine Says:

    small, you can find it here.

    http://www.britneyspears.com

  261. Amethyst Mine Says:

    just glanced at some comments at BS.com No idea what is going on over there but they don’t weed them out like they used to.

  262. Amapola Says:

    I could not find any cage. But I saw a short coffin like box, in beige, open in all directions?

    Is that the “cage” ?

  263. Amethyst Mine Says:

    If her microphone doesn’t work what will you think?

  264. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Don’t know who you were asking Ama but it’s at 34.

    hope that helps

  265. Amapola Says:

    You mean that she would not be able to speak OUT in the microphone, or what do you mean?

    Would that not be very strange, under a whole evening?

    They have already her kids, why should they needed to shout down her microphone (for outspeaking use)?

  266. Amapola Says:

    AM, I don’t know what a 34 is, you obvious think I should know that?

    Do I have to google and read tecnical english to understand what you mean, or can you easy explain it?

  267. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    http://www.breatheheavy.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1236028987&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&

    Brit’s in the cage at 34 seconds in from the start. And she looks HAWT! :)

  268. Amapola Says:

    Now I´m confused, do you answered about the cage or the microfon.
    Becuse of the timeline of my question, and your answers, you must have talk about the 34 = cage?

  269. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Yes Ama. See the ticker when you watch a video? It’s 32-34 and it is HAWT as Steel says.

    ——-

    I ask about the microphone because I doubt she will have one that works between songs. I ask what will you, the public, think if that happens? You don’t need to answer. The question was to everyone, not you in particular.

    http://www.britneyspears.com requires no googling from you, Ama, to watch a video and see 32-34

  270. Amapola Says:

    Thank you Steel_

    but I get..

    “…NOT AVAIBLE FOR YOU LOCATION”.. :(

  271. small hands Says:

    I wonder how the reviews will be.
    I hope it goes well for her.

  272. small hands Says:

    Ama…I saw it on the OK magazine site. If it’s the same video. Not sure if you are able to view videos there or not, but try it.
    Laters :)

  273. Amapola Says:

    A question almost always ask for answer AM, and I, who are one of “everyone” think they already have the “sword” hanging over her head, so to speak.
    Maybe someone else think otherwise?

  274. Amapola Says:

    Thank you small :)

    Yes, the type of cage they have to lions inside.

  275. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    “…NOT AVAIBLE FOR YOU LOCATION”..

    I get that a lot, too! It’s a bummer.

    Well, the stage itself looks awesome! The set-up itself is pretty unique.

    I kinda doubt she’ll have a live mic on very much…But that’s not really anything new. (Sorry, hardcore fans…but it’s a reality!) She tends to let out a lot of “Woo!” sounds when she sings live. (Which I think is kinda cute anyways…But what do I know…)

    But I think she’ll do fine. People WANT her to do well, so I think they’ll be pretty forgiving if there are some mis-steps along the way.

  276. Amapola Says:

    Have you read on the “If U Seek Amy /Britney here?
    What you think of my ex of a mowie and song comment?

  277. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    A Stepford Wife…A living doll…

    It seems that’s what men REALLY want! Someone who looks beautiful, but keeps her mouth shut.

    Hmmm…Maybe it’s fitting that I became a fan of Brit the day she picked up the umbrella and finally started whacking.

  278. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    To put that last comment another way…

    The day Brit whacked the paps with an umbrella (and shaved her head!) was the day I thought she’d finally found her sanity!

  279. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Ama. You get pissed off when I try to help you. You get pissed off when I do or don’t answer you. There’s walking on egg shells with you, being direct wit you.

    There’s no winning with you. I see your game.

    —–

    Steel. She always had a live microphone between sets before right, to be able to deliver intros to the next song?

    Umbrella was a great day. Massad-abled agree and use it to shield her from direct photos by paps. There’s a phrase for it.

  280. MH Says:

    Steel_Magnolia Says:
    March 2nd, 2009 at 7:03 pm To put that last comment another way…
    The day Brit whacked the paps with an umbrella (and shaved her head!) was the day I thought she’d finally found her sanity!

    you can’t be serious?

  281. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Like here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfU6GPjgb44

  282. Amethyst Mine Says:

    There’s no missing cages on the latest BH release.

    Holy shyt

  283. Amethyst Mine Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKhHfTMKIOQ&eurl=http://www.breatheheavy.com/

  284. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I’ve been sadder in my life but def sad.

    A “mentally ill” person captured and shown off.

  285. Fantasy Says:

    The rehearsal video looks amazing. She just has to find a way to build her confidence up. I still don’t think that she really has her heart into touring. But she’s got to do it. I think she’ll manage somehow.

  286. Fantasy Says:

    I read through the link from October about the ring. Perhaps she was sending a signal to A. If I understand correctly it seemed like Ronnie may or may not have know more than he was willing to say at that time. Like when he said that he had a feeling we’d be seeing (or hearing ) more from A soon. But as far as I know we didn’t see him until this year. I haven’t heard anything directly from him since the ET interviews. I can’t remember the exact date of that thread. On or after the driv. lic. case was dismissed? Just wondering because of Ronnie’s comment. I was thinking maybe Britney hadn’t yet agreed to the permanent c-ship. And perhaps at the time she was photographed wearing the ring she may have still been believing that the c-ship would terminate on 12/31/2008. Maybe I’m over observing things. IDK when the request to make it permanent was made. Was it weeks before the status hearing on Oct. 28,2008. The day before? Well, it doesn’t really matter now.

  287. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Fantasy. Just asking. She agreed to a perm c-ship.

    Did she? Or did Sam Ingham waive rights, talk her into waiving a jury trial … was her agreeing part of an AP report you read?

    “Seems Britney approves because” and then text was from court.

    The AP had NO business interpreting or opining on the matter as they did leaving you and others with a lasting impression that Britney had agreed or approved.

    I don’t think that will be happening with frequency in the future.

    Read the AP’s guidelines. Their reporter, their office, and all who supported the reporter violated AP’s standards.

    Damage done. You and others are still thinking Britney approved permanent c-ship because a reporter, an AP reporter, wrote that it was so.

  288. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    MH Says:
    March 2nd, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    you can’t be serious?

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I am serious! But I guess I should explain…

    I’ve always been under the assumption – maybe the false assumption – that the things that Brit’s done that looked “crazy” to us actually made perfect sense to her or to those around her.

    I’ve never been a fan of Britney “The Brand” – I always thought it was pretty demeaning to women. I always felt like it gave girls the idea that they didn’t need an education, or didn’t ever have to think for themselves – that all they needed was their sexuality to get by in life. And I really never liked how Britney didn’t seem to be much of a participant in her own career. (Maybe she was – I really don’t know.) It always seemed to me like her Mom and her management and record company made all the decisions, and that the decisions usually had to do with making the most amount of money with the least amount of integrity.

    So, when Brit started going “crazy,” I actually always saw it as her doing things to get underneath other people’s skin. (e.g. wearing the brown boots every day just to “prove” that she could do it…maybe because someone had told her at some point that she shouldn’t be seen wearing the same boots two days in a row? I don’t know.)

    I always tried to put myself in her shoes and imagine how I would handle things. And I think I have to give her credit. I would’ve pulled out the umbrella long ago! I think she’s shown herself to be pretty resilient, considering the situations she’s found herself in. She’s made LOTS of bad decisions along the way, for sure. But she’s also a pretty strong-willed person. So I guess I always saw all the “crazy” things she was doing as “acting out” rather than “losing her mind.” If that makes sense?

  289. Fantasy Says:

    Amethyst, you’re right. I’ve been believeing that Britney agreed to the permnt. c-ship because that’s what was reported in the papers and online. I’m not talking about the rag mags. I mean newspapers. I was shocked that she’d agreed to it. When something is printed in papers throughout the nation and not just in the rag mag circle of course I’m less likely to question it. There’s so much happening behind the scenes. I don’t know who or what to believe anymore. Everything is spun to benefit this person,that person. It’s confusing.

  290. Amapola Says:

    Steel_

    I´m, all with you in your comments.

    I strongly believe that Britney had a breakdown. Scars from her childhood, in her lauggage. She wanted to please to many, and on top of that, her strong, and human longing to have kids.

    She have non own foundation to stand on, outside the stage and the repetition enviroment or studios.
    What happend to Britney can happend to us all, man or women, if we loose our self on the way, pleasing others, giving no time for our own person to grow.

    She act so human when she get enough, but people don’t want her to be human. Or have a human nature.
    The want the image, and no more.

    Others around her want her skills, her money, her kids, and they say its for her best they do what they do…..
    What a mendacious bunch of people!

    I have also found that people hang many kinds of s**t on Britney, her lack of usual education for instance…
    (She moved to NY, to work, with her stagemom when she was very very young, no time for school I´m sure)

    Look here, some others, not educated, among the stars/entertaiment people. And there are more to found.

    http://www.educatednation.com/2007/02/22/did-any-2007-best-actor-nominees-attend-college/

  291. Amapola Says:

    correction:
    “…
    And there are more to find.”

  292. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Fantasy. I believed it too.

  293. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Fantasy, here’s the article again.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/britney-spears-dad-gets-p_n_138716.html

    When I read it I thought Britney “had approved.” That was due to the editorializing by the author.

    Too bad we don’t know what Brit’s court-appointed attorney, the one she tried to fire, explained to her and why she “did not oppose” permanent c-ship.

    I walked away thinking she had approved it. It was easier to accept that way but I wonder if I had simply read “did not oppose” if I might have questioned it more. I accepted it until I saw the headlines about the TROs.

  294. Amethyst Mine Says:

    http://www.tmz.com/2009/03/03/jamie-spears-britney-spears-conservatorship/

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h90dz6rmadRdON_DJL8eW1qyUZBwD96MLO5O4

  295. doc1955 Says:

    the “Britney” tapes….coming soon?

  296. Ronnie Says:

    Soon. Counter programing or sweeps.

  297. gigi Says:

    seems people are hiding. no one is talking. stalking maybe or better word lurking.

  298. small hands Says:

    I’m lurking :)

    Question—where is Felicia? I thought she was back working with Britney.

  299. gigi Says:

    Small I have no idea. I’ve only seen them in pictures together once or twice.

  300. Fantasy Says:

    Small, I’ve been wondering the same thing. Where’s Fe? Perhaps it isn’t that easy working in someone “old” on the inside of a new situation. But what do I know.

  301. small hands Says:

    I find it odd that she was “rehired”, then you see her only once, or at least I have anyway, driving Britney’s car, and then she disappears. I am seeing Brett more now than before. Not sure if the man in power wanted her back anyway, so maybe that could be why she isn’t seen.
    In the past she was ALWAYS seen with Britney. Not that I was happy with her being rehired.

  302. MH Says:

    good thoughts going out for adnan…hope he’s doing ok.

  303. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    So I’ve been watching clips of Brit’s Miami show on YouTube, and she’s looking noticeably more comfortable on stage. She’s talking to the audience more, and her dancing is WAY crisper. It looks like she’s really starting to improve.

    So I’m wondering…In an imaginary world…If the C-Ship was lifted…Can the TRO’s against Adnan be reversed if SHE requests it? Where does it even stand right now? So much happened all at once that I’m kinda lost right now…

    What a bizarre situation. Adnan must feel very bewildered by it all…!!

  304. small hands Says:

    Great questions Steel. I was curious about the same thing, in an imaginary world of course….. ;)

  305. Steel_Magnolia Says:

    http://www.cbc.ca/arts/books/story/2009/03/09/twain-unpublished-works.html

    …LOL!

  306. gigi Says:

    LOL Steel. We all know hes not dead. He pops in here from time to time. lol

  307. gigi Says:

    I have the same question Steel. IF the c-ship goes away can SHE have the TRO dismissed or is there anything she can do? I know that would not help the other issue but could she do something about the TRO. Did pops group them together knowing that she wants the TRO against Sam and not on A but she couldn’t dismiss one without the other? Lots and lots of questions.

  308. Fantasy Says:

    As far as I know most TRO’s are almost always approved by a judge. If I’m not wrong,I do believe that Jamie wants to make the order permanent for all three. If I’m not wrong about this,then that means a PRO could last for 5 yrs. max. It could be lifted if Britney chooses to request it be lifted. But, I think the judge still has the final say. Just about everything I’ve read online refers to issuing TRO’s,PRO’s, and HRO’s (harassment restr. orders) have to do with physical abuse/assault or threats against one’s life, etc. Even harassing or threatening phone calls can be a reason to file a restr. order. But, most of these cases I read about are related to domestic violence or stalking. Where does Adnan fit into all of this? IMO, nowhere. Wasn’t Sam the one calling Britney’s hair stylist to get to her or relay a message to her? Didn’t Sam try to talk to Jamie too? Wasn’t it said that Sam was the one who was threatening to go public with personal and or false info about Britney or her family? What is it that they’re accusing Adnan of? Conspiring w/ Sam and Eardley to undermine the c-ship? Oh, please! Sam, if I’m not mistaken, hired Eardley last February to try to get Britney out of the c-ship from the very beginning and wanted the case heard by a Fed. Crt. Am I right? Linking Sam and Adnan together doesn’t make sense to me. I don’t have any idea what Britney and Sam or Britney and Adnan discussed by phone. How would anyone know that they were conspiring to do anything? Was Britney’s cell phone tapped? Maybe. Maybe not. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that it was. Perhaps that’s why she was using the pre-paid cell phone instead of her own personal cell. For privacy. There’s not much they can pin on Adnan. And even if Sam was using Adnan to get to Britney indirectly, it’s not a crime. I say that because the TRO against Sam ended in July 2008. It didn’t get extended. The was no restr. order against Sam anymore. He just agreed to not bother Britney anymore. And Britney too said she didn’t want anything to do with Sam either. So, neither kept their word. But that’s still not any reason to get all legal about it. But, hey, that’s just me. Okay,I’m done. Later,guys.

  309. gigi Says:

    Fantasy that is exactly why I dont understand why the judge agreed to the TRO against him in the place. If they don’t have anything to show for it then why place him under one. Still makes no sense to me.

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