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Adnan Denies Charges

5-27-09ag

Britney Spears’ former boyfriend Adnan Ghalib has finally spoken out about the legal complaint that has him facing three felony charges.

According to RadarOnline, Ghalib filed papers last night in an L.A. court in which he denied “each and every allegation” that had been made against him by process server Ram Moskowitz. The court papers are available here. In February, Moskowitz was attempting to serve the former paparazzo with a restraining order seeking to keep him away from Britney Spears and her family members, when the process server alleges that he was hit by Ghalib’s car. 

While it certainly seems like a positive step for Ghalib to answer the complaint against him, why did he take so long? Jamie Spears and his conservatorship cronies have been smearing Adnan’s name for months now—why hasn’t he spoken out before? It’s not just his good  name that’s at stake here—it’s his freedom.

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Author: Linda

229 Replies to “Adnan Denies Charges”

  1. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Here!

  2. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Fantasy. I have to look it up but I don’t think Moskowitz worked directly for ASC as an employee. Still he likely took his direction from them as Yemini had a teleconference with G Wyle, and he is named in the CRO.

  3. Amethyst Mine Says:

    CPO?

  4. Fantasy Says:

    Is it true that you have a month to file a
    response to a lawsuit in order to avoid default or
    an automatic win for the other side?
    Has it been a month or more since RM filed his
    lawsuit? I think it’s been since mid-April.
    I’m not sure. I’m glad that Adnan has responded.
    How much is RM wanting? btw, I don’t like the
    emotional distress excuse. It’s over used and
    sounds phoney.

  5. MH Says:

    This is about the civil case, not the criminal case.

  6. MH Says:

    wonder why he’s using a different lawyer….

  7. Fantasy Says:

    No, RM worked for Chameleon Strategic Operations.
    aka “Chameleon”.

    I believe it was the ex-bodyguard who’s now suing
    Britney who worked for Advanced Security Concepts.
    Did you see the link to that site on the other
    thread? You can see Britney in at least 2 pics
    from last year on their video page.

    I was curious as to if all of B’s security men
    come from the same company. And I don’t think
    they come cheap.

  8. Fantasy Says:

    Right, the civil case.

  9. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Linda (how are you?)

    Just guessing.

    He has evidence to show his side of the story. The evidence took both money and the legal process to obtain.

  10. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Fantasy. Google warned my computer about visiting that site so I didn’t get to see the vid.

    MH. Different lawyer? Korn is criminal defense, this is civil. Different chefs.

  11. Fantasy Says:

    MH, thanks for the correction about which camera
    the photos came from.

  12. Amethyst Mine Says:

    “There are a total of 47 — 43 flash shots from a surveillance camera at the location where this allege crime occurred.”

    “I have spoken to the prosecution about getting copies of all 43 photographs that were taken from the surveillance camera.” PK

    “There have already been some provided. I will look into the rest. I don’t know what is available, but I will look into it.” d.a.

    “Just for the record, what I have is one, two, three, four, five, six, seven xeroxed copies of things that I can’t even make out.” PK

    Linda… does that answer your question?

  13. Amethyst Mine Says:

    MH. It doesn’t say anything about a building but I find the transcript lacks 110% accuracy. I mean, I would guess surveillance cameras were attached to the building. Where else would they be?

    I know I heard PK say Britney Jean Spears but the transcript reads Britney, James Spears re an existing TRO. Tiny error.

    Did you hear apartment building?

  14. MH Says:

    I thought he said building in the courtroom video. He may have just said location. I put building (apt bldg) cause that’s what the location was.

  15. MH Says:

    All this crap is a big fat waste of money.

  16. MH Says:

    Hold your head high, Adnan.

    This too shall pass.

  17. small hands Says:

    So I go on over to BH and everything is fine, then BAM, I see a picture of a huge d!ck, WTF!? Oh my eyes…not that I’ve never seen one before, but damn that was a surprise.

  18. small hands Says:

    LOL—sorry about that.

    MH—from the other thread, when I commented on the article you posted about “Brit being happy”, I wasn’t trying to imply you agreed with the article. I wanted to clear that up. :)

    Fantasy—I’m going to wait a day before going to BH to check out the dress :)

  19. Amethyst Mine Says:

    small. Every now and then on BH … and JM has not been taking care of it.

  20. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I can’t believe Jordan just posted that but he posts all things Britney. Pity he didn’t defend her but maybe he’s counting on the fans to generate a lively discussion and numbers.

  21. Amethyst Mine Says:

    http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/MoreBritneySpears2.pdf

  22. Amethyst Mine Says:

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/05/more-legal-fee-drama-britney-spears

  23. Amapola Says:

    AM
    A person left a commment on page six, who was very very good.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “”I’m no Britney fan, but this is just stupid writing of an young man who has no
    experience with women and how their bodies work, or a gay guy who has never had
    a very close relationship with a woman.
    ..


    This was written for stupid people by someone who wanted to see just how dumb is the reader or like I mentioned earlier, no experience with the
    female body.

    Either way I would think that a Post editor would have shot this tidbit down.
    Boo for all of you!!!!”

    If you want to read the whole comment, look at NY Post , Page six.

  24. Amapola Says:

    About JM..he have never done anything good for Britney, Adnan, Jamie, Lynne.

    He is a Sam Lutfi and Alli Simms “man”.

  25. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Ama. NY Post and NY Times are worlds apart. The story fits in with the mix of mud that the Post is known for.

    The thing about Jordan is, why did he have to put up an embarrassing photo of Britney when he allegedly cares about her? I know you don’t visit there but was it necessary for him to put up a post where part of her shirt is wet or stained? Exhalers haven’t seemed to notice this obvious tear down.

    JM is an odd one that one but he is still a source of “news” although I like that site that Fantasy posted the other day although I wish the site owner would comment like, “Big deal. Who hasn’t had this happen?”

    Ama. Most of the comments in exhale supported Britney and called this no big deal and who hasn’t had this happen and so on.

    And if it even happened? Who is the unprofessional rat at Elle who leaked this story?

  26. Amapola Says:

    “Amethyst Mine Says:
    May 28th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
    Ama. NY Post and NY Times are worlds apart…”

    I dont understand, have anybody talk about NY ties here?

    And for this rumor about Britney and Elle.
    I do think its a huge big fat lie.

    I try to not care, but my contempt on most notice writers in the gossip media grow deeper each day.

  27. Amapola Says:

    correction:
    I dont understand, have anybody talk about NY times here?

  28. Amapola Says:

    “MH Says:
    May 28th, 2009 at 12:08 am
    Hold your head high, Adnan.
    This too shall pass.”

    I say the same.

  29. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Ama. ‘Either way I would think that a Post editor would have shot this tidbit down.
    Boo for all of you!!!!”

    This made me think you don’t know the Post. Why would any of Post editor shoot this down? It’s typical for them.

    The Times would never post such a thing.

  30. gigi Says:

    Since we all know that people make up junk about Brit lets assume that they made it up or someone lied. Evey time she seems to be doing good a crap story comes out to tear her down. This story reminds me of the pictures that X posted at one point. Yes Shame on JM if he is really on her side but he has shown in the past he is only on Sams side and not on the side of trying to help her.

  31. Fantasy Says:

    Hi everyone. What’s up?
    Star mag has the photo of A & B wearing the
    rosary (as a necklace) in this week’s issue.
    Just thought I’d mention it one last time.

    There’s a hearing tomorrow, right.
    Jamie/c-ship wants the $$ back for the TRO’s.
    I think that’s what it’s about.
    Is it Jdg. Bobb or another jdg. who’ll make the
    decision? I expect the jdg. to rule in favor of
    Jamie/c-ship. They always do.
    Be back later. Or tomorrow.

  32. Amethyst Mine Says:

    What does “reliably reported” mean? ref to Hello mag.

    I notice the Hello article is rife with unnamed sources.

    Kevin and Britney have become best friends?

    Jamie Lynne talked to Hello in New Orleans?

    —-

    Hi, Fantasy.

  33. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Goodnight, Fantasy.

  34. small hands Says:

    Fantasy I expect that same ruling.
    Good night everyone. Or good morning :) It has been a LONG day.

  35. gigi Says:

    I told you it would show up in a rag somewhere. Maybe not on the front page but it still showed up.

  36. Amethyst Mine Says:

    05/29/2009 at 10:30 am in department 11 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
    ALLOWANCE OF FEES (per Court instruction)

  37. Amethyst Mine Says:

    More photos of Radar vid

    http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/6954/2009/05/britneys-radar-video-set

  38. gigi Says:

    Be good people. People here getting canned today. Boss is being a bitch. Wants us all off the net. See you guys after work but not during work hours. If something breaks loose and I need to know Am can let me know hopefully. Until later. TEAM A

  39. MH Says:

    pap sues…
    http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/29/b/

  40. Fantasy Says:

    The man’s foot must not have hurt that bad or he
    would have sued right away. I sure would have.
    I think this is the 2nd papparazzi’s foot that
    she drove over in November ‘07. The 1st pap’s
    foot was driven over the month before.
    By law this man is still able to file a suit.
    But I still think this is just nonsense.
    You know what the say. More money, more problems.

    Small, did you see Felicia in the Radar pics?
    Where’s she been hiding all this time? lol

  41. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Oct 2007

    Rick says, “Let bygones be bygones. No hard feelings toward her. She’s my favorite one.”

    (she got a little impatient. There was a car in front of her that wouldn’t move, she turned her wheel the opposite direction)

    Harvey’s suggestion to Rick? Get shoes.

    Source: TMZ video archives

  42. Amapola Says:

    Rick Mendoza

    http://www.dishiness.com/?cat=3045

    This is the one who now suing Britney..foot, car, and so on..
    Do you recognize him AM?
    Its the one with black nails who was absolutely everywhere that day when Britney, her bodygurads and Jamie arrived to LAX airport..Friday June 20, 2008 . A chaotic scene involving over 30 paparazzi.

    The Mendoza guy, then, had black shining nails, looking ON, very ON. His eyes was very huge and black too… He was everywhere.. Kind of strange and scary.. .

    He have not look so good (fresh) lately..For instance he was among the crowd of papz on the street, who the x pap, that documentary from Sweden, said he did not want to count himself into.

    Wonder wher to find all those pics on Mendoza? Do not remeber wich papers it was into, have only find a short video from LAX

  43. Amapola Says:

    Spelled wrong in the comment, hope you can read it anyway.. :)

  44. Amapola Says:

    Why Is Britney Crying???

    http://x17online.com/celebrities/jamie_spears/index.php?page=2

    Here is one pic, he have dark pink t shirt

  45. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I remember when you pointed him out.

    No telling why he is making his move now.

    Why the change of heart? Will yet another attorney seek to have Britney testify?

  46. Amapola Says:

    http://www.accesshollywood.com/_article_10027?&__source=rss%257Cah_Latest

    You can also look on the video to the right, scrool down “related videos”…. (have nothing to do with Mendoza)

    “Training With Command Security expert and ex-Israeli commando Aaron Cohen, who been used by Kevin Federline to seve subpoena papers to Britney Spears legal case, demonstrates some of his training techniques.”

  47. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Must be some good arguments going on in LA.

  48. Amapola Says:

    “she was a little impatiant… ”

    The Question are, he was not impatiant… or what have he to do almost ON her car?

    And as the TMZ staff said too him: Next time= Shoes.

    http://www.tmz.com/2007/10/20/tmz-cameraman-tells-how-brit-ran-him-over/

    This time it was a dirty sock in a sandal, and no hard feelings, because he knew it was is owm fault..

    I remember a lot of times when some papz screaming BEFORE anaything even happend.
    Like IF, they could stop her car, or if they would get the chance to sue..
    Or why do they screamed so childish, they brave men of the street? :)

  49. Queen B Says:

    I can’t believe Brit is being sued again. This is the third lawsuit filed against her in six months. If this guy was seriously injured, why did he wait a year and a half to file a lawsuit. All this guy wants is money from the Bank of Britney.

    In hingsight, what Brit should have done the moment she realized she had accidentally ran over this guy’s foot was to call the police and have them take a police report to document and record everything that just happened. Even if you’re not at fault it is never a good idea to leaave the scene of an accident.

  50. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Nice, Queen, but all the paps around her assured her everything was okay.

    They directed each other and cleared room so she could leave.

    You’re right though. But that’s a would have could have should have.

    Moot by now.

  51. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Ama. I thought the same thing such as he was hugging her windshield to get a direct shot.

    His feet were too close to the vehicle and tire.

    He acted in an unexpected manner. She just turned her wheel and was trying to edge out. It wasn’t as though her car leaped several feet. The guy was TOO close and offensive.

  52. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Nice plug of “leaving the scene of an accident.”

    ha

  53. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Queen. What do you mean leaving the scene of an accident? She made sure he was okay and all involved reassured her everything was fine and to clear room for her to move her vehicle.

    I’m not sure what you are driving at but you seem to imply she had faulty judgment.

    Are you implying that?

  54. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Here’s a thought.

    News of the pap suing her is being looped back into restraining orders against Lutfi, Eardley and Ghalib, in British tabloids.

    Maybe Rich is earning a bonus right before the European leg of the tour. He finally has use as a strawberry.

    Just thinking aloud.

    Queen. I hope you do reply to what you are implying about Britney calling the police because you so far seem cautious but snarkey at the same time.

    Just an impression when it comes to Britney.

  55. Fantasy Says:

    Actually, guys, this is Britney’s 3rd lawsuit
    in as many months. Lutfi filed a lawsuit against
    her and her parents back in February.
    Kerry Vine filed a lawsuit over a week ago, and
    now here’s Mendoza.

    All three men waited a year or more to do anything
    about what they claim was done to them. I googled
    the Statute of Limitations in California and it
    said that for Personal Injury you are given 2 yrs.
    to file a lawsuit. That’s what Vine and Mendoza
    are claiming. Right?

    For libel/slander/ or defamation you only are
    given 1 year. Written contracts- 4 years and
    Oral contracts- 2 years.
    That’s what Lutfi’s claiming against Britney and
    her parent’s. Right? As well as Jamie hitting him.
    Well, that would be considered personal injury.
    Wouldn’t it? I think so.

    Queen B does have a point. The Mendoza incident
    could fall under a hit and run or maybe leaving
    the scene of an accident. Did Britney give
    Mendoza her number or exchange any info with him
    at all? I doubt it. It seemed that everything was
    okay at the time. All was forgiven and but
    apparently not forgotten. All of these people
    are coming out with claims seeking damage$ and
    with Britney’s luck, every single one of them
    will probably end up getting cut a check.

    The money that is in the Bank of Britney has begun
    to dwindle, y’all. What’s the point of the tour?
    So much money will/is being spent toward atty.
    fees, not much will be left for Britney to
    personally enjoy. Not that she’s got control over
    her money to begin with.

    Imo, Jamie should ask for these 2 new men to pay
    atty. fees and costs. Just for simply waiting
    around for so long before taking legal action.

    Speaking of, what happened in court today?
    Does anyone know yet?

  56. small hands Says:

    Fantasy I didn’t see the pictures of Felicia. I’ll go check them out. I am tired today.
    Someone must have read my thoughts….
    Jamie Spears should have filed a TRO against that woman who trespassed on her property. Looks like she got a lot closer to her than she should have…so much for the great security.

  57. Fantasy Says:

    Amethyst, first let me say that I don’t really
    know what the word snarkey means. Having said
    that, I don’t think that applies to Queen B.

    Britney’s judgment was very poor. Although the
    paps around her that day (including Mendoza)
    made it seem that everything was okay, you gotta
    remember that Mendoza was photographing Britney
    or filming her and he couldn’t let something like
    a smashed up foot get in the way of him making
    money from the incident that caused him pain.

    You know the saying bro’s before ho’s?
    Well, maybe to Mendoza he was thinking dough
    before ho’s. Man, I know I’m gonna catch a lot of
    shiz for using that expression. Sorry if I
    offend. But it’s the truth. Now to be fair Mendoza
    was just as wrong. He should’ve gotten his ass and
    his foot out of the way! Like you sad, could’ve,
    would’ve, should’ve.

    His main concern was the money shot. He’d worry
    about his foot later. Now IS later.
    We know that he and Vine are full of puppy poo.
    But they’ve got the law behind them and have
    every right to file suit. Even if it’s a year or
    so later. Britney should have taken the proper
    steps that day by insisting that the cops be
    called or exchanging info with him and checking
    on him to see how he was doing. I think she just
    wanted to get the heck out of there and not make
    a big deal about it. It’s a problem that her
    dad and atty’s will have to deal with now.

    Poor bad luck Britney. The woman just can’t catch
    a break. :( This sucks, huh.

  58. Queen B Says:

    Fantasy is absolutely right. I do not want to be too critical of Brit but I believe she did exercise poor judgment on that day. She made a mistake and I’m sure she would have handled things differently now.

    I know that the guy and the other paps said that “everything was okay” but thinking as an attorney, my whole thought process is how do I avoid future liability which is why I would have called the police anyway just to be safe because someone may have been injured as a result of my actions.
    If the police had come and determined that the pap was at fault which he probably was because he was standing too close to her car, that report could be used as evidence in a later civil case to show that Brit should not be held liable.

    It is obvious that what happened was an accident. I could easily to see a jury saying the pap 97% liable and Brit is 03% liable. The plaintiff gets nominal damages. I do not see a big pay day for him but the attorney’s fees could be high for Brit. I would hope her insurance carrier would defend her under the terms of her policy.

  59. Amethyst Mine Says:

    This hurtling of big mistakes and poor judgment seems superior.

    Our stripes come out.

  60. Amethyst Mine Says:

    If I am wrong, ok, but seems some of you would have played it “smarter” and that’s too funny. ;)

  61. Fantasy Says:

    I saw the video back in 2007 and I re-watched it
    today. It’s clear that both Mendoza and Britney
    could’ve handled themselves and their actions/
    reactions better than they did.

    If I am sounding harsh it isn’t because
    I’m no longer on Team B. I do support her but when
    someone is wrong you gotta be fair reguardless of
    how you may personally feel for the person.
    Call it what is and be done with it.
    Just being honest.

    Meanwhile, there’s more tour expantion rumors.
    A fansite is saying that Britney will come back
    to the US for a 3rd leg of touring after she’s
    done with Europe. The US tour part 2 will begin
    in Texas in mid-September and there’ll be shows
    between then and as late as December with a show
    in Florida. Again, for now it’s a rumor.
    These rumors often become fact. So I’ll wait and
    see if BS.com confirms it later in the year.

    If true, that’ll mean Britney wiil be on the road
    for about 8 or 9 months. She’s had a short break
    this month. She’s booked in Europe for June and
    July so maybe she’ll have some or all of August
    off and relax before going back on tour in
    September. I see a pattern. Tour for 2 months.
    Take a month off. Then tour for another 2 months.

    Who knows how long this tour will last.
    If Britney keeps getting hit with lawsuits this
    frequently as she is now, this tour could not
    only last all of this year but carry over into
    2010. Approximately one year. She needs the cash.
    It looks as if the c-ship is trying to get her
    wealth back to what is was 5 years ago.
    Whatever that may have been.

    Britney may spend the remainder of her 20’s under
    a conservatorship. Maybe she knows already. It
    just hasn’t been publicized yet. Maybe she’s cool
    with this. idk. Anyway, that’s what’s out there.
    Just letting you know.
    Gonna try to sleep again. Later guys.

  62. Amapola Says:

    “Queen B Says:
    May 29th, 2009 at 11:48 pm”

    Send all lawyers to the moon, those pettyfoggers believes they are more important then they are.

  63. Amapola Says:

    Fantasy..are you serious. There is not, and have not been anything wrong with ´the Mendoza foot`.

    This foot problem just made him, look ridiculous!

    Wonder what pettyfogger who have clinging his nails onto Mendoza? That will be interseting to see.

    My opinon is that Mendoza shall take his foot and walk away.

  64. Amapola Says:

    “Queen B Says:
    May 29th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
    I can’t believe Brit is being sued again. This is the third lawsuit filed against her in six months. If this guy was seriously injured, why did he wait a year and a half to file a lawsuit. All this guy wants is money from the Bank of Britney.
    In hingsight, what Brit should have done the moment she realized she had accidentally ran over this guy’s foot was to call the police and have them take a police report to document and record everything that just happened. Even if you’re not at fault it is never a good idea to leaave the scene of an accident.”

    Sure, with a whole hyena gang of papz around you of course call the police.

    She was followed every minute, round the clock, of papz who doid not care where they put there foot.

    And she was followed because some gossip papers PAID for thouse pics..To crate pics. Even if there was nothing to be, they was expected to create something, anything.

    Ask tmz for money Mendoza..That day they was you daddy..

  65. meathead Says:

    Amapola Says:

    Sure, with a whole hyena gang of papz around you of course call the police.

    Ask tmz for money Mendoza..That day they was you daddy..

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    LOL!!!!!!

    Amapola, you are the most insightful, clever blogger. :)

  66. meathead Says:

    Although, Queen B is absolutely right; hindsight often kicks us in the ass.

  67. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Fantasy. I know you are too shy to bring it up ;) but the rosary again?

  68. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Alli

    @yoyobrit she knew him way before i did.and her mom hung out w/ him for months b4 i ever was introduced. things arent always as they appear11:13 AM May 15th from web in reply to yoyobrit

    tweet

  69. Fantasy Says:

    Umm hmm. I saw the new pics this morning.
    There’s still people (excluding us) who are
    talking about the rosary. They say it’s not the
    same or that Britney could have bought it in the
    Bahamas last week. I don’t believe that.

    So I looked online to see if the Bahamas is a
    predominantly Catholic country. It’s 72%
    Protestant and only 14% Catholic.
    I do know that Mexico is predominantly a Catholic
    country. Who doesn’t know that?

    I once again googled around for stories written
    about A & B’s trip to Rosarito Beach, Mexico.
    They had checked into the Rosarito Beach hotel.

    I called the hotel that A & B stayed in.
    Yep, I sure did. I felt dorky but I did it.
    I specifically asked the woman who answered the
    phone (who just happens to be bilingual, thank
    God for that) if this is the hotel that Britney
    Spears stayed at last year. She said, “yes”.

    I asked if they had a gift shop at the hotel and
    did they sell rosaries. She said that they don’t
    have a gift shop at the hotel, but there are
    several gift shops in front of the hotel that
    does. I wish I knew where the rosary was bought.
    The woman gave me the name of one of the gift
    shops called Virgo. I asked for a ph. #, but
    she said that there’s no phone there.

    Long story short, the rosary most likely is ‘The
    One’ from Mexico not from anywhere else. And 9 times out of 10 it is ‘The One’ Adnan was wearing
    last year in January that Britney is probably
    still wearing at this very moment.

    Moving on. Who is this Yoyobrit person?
    Is she tweeting Alli? What’s the deal?

  70. meathead Says:

    Let’s just say you never know who you are talking to or throwing into walls when you’re in cyberspace.

  71. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Fantasy! ooo la la! I’m so proud of you and am grateful to hear of your adventure and news.

    I would think they bought them together from the same shop. The artwork seems the same or at least similar.

    Yoyobrit is someone who might have been banned from here. She would only stop by seeking to do damage. I wonder if she is Ever Love on BH as she tweeted that she only goes there to be an a**hole. I can’t remember if we threw her to the wall (an Ama expression from her country and I apologize Ama if over time I have lost the exact wording)or pureed her from a pumpkin.

    She was initially annoying but then we found fun with toying with her rather than getting defensive or angry which seemed to be catnip to her.

    I think that is a fair description. I think she would have enjoyed claiming that she had been banned from here.

    Wow. I can’t believe you called Mexico. I love this board.

    I have another packet (of truth) coming in the mail but I don’t expect it for at least two to three weeks. I hope it will tell us something interesting like shedding a light.

    Guys. Do you think JS has threatened JFX?

  72. Amapola Says:

    AM..
    “Bah! Throw yourself into a wall” :)

    That’s the cruel part, “they” proposed to throw THEMSELVES into (a) the wall.. ;)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    AM
    Why do you think JS should treateened JFX?
    No reason at all!

    For my part I only want to say that I´m deeply dissipointed on what JS allow happening and be done against Adnan.
    Not fair at all, in fact a shame, and I have expected better from JS.

    I´m also fear that JS no longer are in charge.

    That all the parasites and the lawyers now, in this time of financial crisis, feeding themselves like a swap of money eating bacteria, on Britney Spears economy.
    Not many persons have the money to feed all this lawyers for instance. they (the lawyers) want let go so easy..

    Have JS any medicin to stop that?

    Also, even if some company SAY they are the best in “this or that”, they maybe was years ago, and now..now, they maybe have not so many jobs so they try to cash in as much as they can.
    Thinking the security team here..

    Personal recommendations maybe not so reliable any longer?
    I scratch your back, you mine?

    But all depends of what intentions one have I suppose.
    I belived in JS from start..
    I thougt his intention was good.

    Now I dont know longer.

    (And all the time, the record company (summarizes all this parts) dont have to pay a single dollar.. Its Britney money the whole way.)

  73. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Ama. There are days when I truly appreciate your visions. Bacteria? Love it. Apt.

    About JS and JFX, I can’t ignore how silent they have been with us and they are even a little more gentile in some of what they post front page.

    If JS threatened JM, why not JFX too? Free Britney. It’s still a column on the front page.

    I never knew or appreciated how much power JS has until he went after JM. It was the first overt sign of manipulation and intimidation behind the scenes so to speak.

    What is this you are saying about security? Do you think they unnecessarily recommend things Britney doesn’t need?

    I remain confused about JS. I guess ultimately I think he is human and more than capable of being a control freak. From the outside looking in, it would seem he has made promises such as don’t worry, she’ll be there and she’ll sing.

    He is the one signing everything from contracts to the tab at the end of a meal. Do you believe that Britney really has control over and access to her own American Express card?

  74. Amethyst Mine Says:

    p.s. JM is small fry. The fact that Jamie “can” go after him is not a surprise but the fact that he would? It’s like he went too far in crushing all who oppose hi in this case a kid he thinks a real threat.

    You don’t have to like or dislike JM to see that. Am I seeing clearly? The only part I am skeptical about is the verbal one to one of “I will destroy your ass.” I wonder if he said that in a teleconference with his lawyer. It’s just hard to visualize picking up a phone while munching a sandwich in his home, “Jordan? I will …”

    Rather bold, stark and something you just wouldn’t say to just any kid who was 20 at the time. Why would one bother? Let the lawyers handle it.

  75. Amapola Says:

    “Amethyst Mine Says:
    May 30th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
    .
    ..

    If JS threatened JM, why not JFX too”

    Because JM was and are a Sam Lutfi man.

    ””””””””””””’
    “What is this you are saying about security? Do you think they unnecessarily recommend things Britney doesn’t need?”

    No, I did not mean that, and I have not all english to explain it.. Sorry.
    ”””””””””

    “Do you believe that Britney really has control over and access to her own American Express card?”

    I dont think that is numer one the list of what Britney think of.

    Why can´t one be a free person and find peace inside the family?
    They don’t need to be enemies, but she should have the right, as a free person ahve, to choice how she feel about the realtions.

    Anyway, the situation is such that she stay beside her kids, and in that I do understand her.

    By the way, she can be so proud, and many around her should be so ashamed.

  76. Amapola Says:

    “Amethyst Mine Says:
    May 30th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
    ….
    ….
    ……

    Let the lawyers handle it.”

    Sorry, I can not se JM as “a kid”

  77. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Good point, Ama, but JFX are friends with Adnan. Is Adnan any different from JS’s point of view? JS means to crush him. Why not do it by crushing his friendships and support in addition to crushing his public image?

  78. Amethyst Mine Says:

    20 is 20. Call him a young man or whatever but he has not the life experience of you or myself.

  79. Amethyst Mine Says:

    To me he is just a kid, a college student that aunts and uncles give cash to now and then.

    Maybe he has lived a bigger life than some of us through his website but .. taking on a twenty year old is different than taking on you or I.

  80. meathead Says:

    The fact that he doesn’t work alone is why he was “taken on”.

  81. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Credit cards. A credit card and being able to spend her own money is a freedom she had before.

    My parents ensured I always had a little cash on me as they sure it wasn’t good for one’s self-esteem without it. I always turned over what I didn’t use but it was nice to know I had money for an emergency or food or a movie if I wanted. It was walking around money and I always gave what I didn’t use back.

    I can’t imagine being stripped outright from my own money and purchasing power. It’s a return to childhood and being not only under someone else’s control but their “better” judgment.

    I’m not going to worry too much about the credit card.

  82. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Good point, meathead. He’s still 21 years old though. I doubt JS and company could of predicted he’d rustle up an attorney pro bono?

    Now JS can’t talk to him one on one or play a round of golf.

  83. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Sorry, meathead. I missed a word when I read your post. Do many of the sites work alone? Isn’t the industry based on relationships?

    I do find it odd he’s never said anything bad about Lutfi and that he did what he could on his site to reconcile Britney with Alli at some point.

    I wonder if Chad Hardcastle signed an NDA. He’s disappeared.

  84. Cloud Says:

    It’s all BS. You got to work with what you’ve got. Takes time to get to where you want to be. And if you want it for real. You show the signs. Adnan knows where he is, so does Britney. If it’s worth it, it’s worth waiting for. Everything in between is just a little camouflage! This is the entertainments biz. Smoke and mirrors people. Smoke and mirrors. Play the game, play up and play the game. What you see is not what you get, unless it’s in the script!

  85. Cloud Says:

    You’re all looking at min-yoot-eee-ayyy! It means nothing to the wizards with the dollar, or the pips upon whom there is an enormous number of people who need you at the helm when their wage check(cheque)is all they rely upon. When you’re in the society, you miss the obvious. Stand out, way out, and take a look from a different perspective if you can. Difficult for those who live where the $$s make the sword sing. Swoop amid the imagination and think outside the prison you have to live in. Try it, you don’t have to buy it. Just take a moment to imagine what it might be like NOT TO BE YOU! A different skin, a different mind, a different mindset; where the only rules you have to follow are those you don’t have the $$s and/or the influence to pay for change.. Look for “the real” .. not the illusion. It’s easy if you remember we all have a colon.

  86. Cloud Says:

    And I’m done for another month. May your brains ring and find the road to where you can see what’s real.

  87. Fantasy Says:

    Can someone, anyone, please translate into English
    what the heck Cloud wrote?

    And I thought MT was hard to understand. Gosh.

  88. MH Says:

    LOL Fantasy…you’re funny. It was pretty straight forward to me. I’ll let AM handle the interpretation.

    btw…brit speaks to paps….ok just a couple of words. but haven’t seen that for a long time.

    http://x17video.com/celebrity_video/britney_spears/exclusive_britney_spears_still.php

  89. small hands Says:

    Fantasy–I still didn’t see Felicia. I am not looking at the right pictures.
    Hi Cloud :)
    Go Lakers :) You better win the whole this yr!

    I saw pictures of Britney with Jason from yesterday. It says they met with Kfat or Kfed, whatever you want to use. Think that is true? And if so, why would Jason have to meet with him unless he has to meet a boyfriend or someone who is spending time with his kids? (I am not saying he is her boyfriend. Just throwing something out there that some want us to believe)

  90. Amethyst Mine Says:

    lol MH and Fantasy. Literature is one thing but poetry in Aussie form? Ama may be the best interpreter. MT always liked Cloud’s work.

    Cloud. If we sometimes look at minutiae it may be because part of being here is social and when there’s little to talk about … well that just it. “Little” to talk about.

    Meanwhile, maybe you are saying that it is all a show and that we are getting distracted by minutiae? Jason, nothing. Rosary nothing. Britney talking, nothing? I don’t think Merry Christmas was in the script. However, if I understand you, you’re saying that us wagging keeps the wizards employed.

    I think it was in the script for X17 to know where Britney was and that she wore the rosary all day long. News, any news, and there’s been no new news, gets people to purchase that Star Magazine just because of a rosary.

    ‘Stand out, way out, and take a look from a different perspective if you can. Difficult for those who live where the $$s make the sword sing. Swoop amid the imagination and think outside the prison you have to live in.’

    Beautiful. Sage. Helpful. But how does it help Addy? In a vacuum of information what else do we have but tidbits to discuss or some moment to dream that Britney is still the Queen on the board and is still active?

    I don’t want this to be a Shakespearean tale nor a Thomas Hardy novel.

    Cloud you are a poet. Is there a hopeful stanza you haven’t penned?

  91. Amethyst Mine Says:

    small. I found a link yesterday and was going to post it then thought, oh everybody but me probably knows that. Jason goes back to 2006 Paris Hilton and Britney “Little Miss Sunshine” t-shirt, avoiding K-Fed and her Malibu home. She obviously had her kids with her too.

    Romance sells. Navarre and others are only dreaming while meanwhile we buy the idea for a few days based on socialization? (I’m thinking to Cloud’s poems)

  92. Fantasy Says:

    Small, to see photo’s of Fe you’ll have to check
    some of the other fansites. If I can still find it
    I’ll post the link for you.

    X17 or BH kind of had conflicting stories. First,
    on BH someone said that Britney and Jason met up
    with K-Fed for a meeting or something.
    But X17 is now saying that K-Fed just dropped the
    boys off at B’s house on the same day that she and
    Trawick went to Starbucks.

    B. and Trawick are either dating or they’re not.
    It’s not clear. Or perhaps it is clear. A newish
    looking bodyguard was with them so things must
    not have been as intimate as the pictures or X17
    will try to have it’s reader’s believe. I wouldn’t
    try to get some action if I had hired help beside
    me watching my every move. Again that’s just me.

    I do get distracted easily. And I kind of like it.
    Making something out of nothing is human nature.
    Or is it just my nature? Ah, I don’t care.

    Here’s something else. There’s a 15 second clip
    of what’s rumored to be the new Radar video.
    There’s a scene where B’s (or her character’s)
    cell phone rings and a pic of The Guy as well as
    his name is shown on the phone. The Guy’s name is
    “Jason.” Does it mean that the video Jason isn’t
    the only Jason on B’s Radar? Is it a sign?
    Just say-in’….

  93. Fantasy Says:

    Here it is Small! I couldn’t get the picture by
    itself so here’s the site link. Scroll down
    half of the way and you’ll see Fe and Britney.
    Posted on 5/29/2009.

    http://ubritney.com/

  94. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Fantasy. I haven’t seen the clip yet but I think people are just having fun with the Jason thing.

    oc, I was totally wrong about what would be shown in Womanizer.

    Also, obviously I like exploring the minutiae sometimes or I wouldn’t do it.

    Cloud it was great to hear from you. I sure would love to hear from Wolk. Fantasy, have you read Wolk’s writing? Fascinating brain and good company.

  95. Amethyst Mine Says:

    What was Britney saying in the clip MH posted?

    Notice who signs for the coffee.

    Fantasy. I’ve seen the bodyguard before I think.

  96. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I call BS on X17. They are friends. This is getting to be like the rosary. Anyhow, Navarre’s dream is for Britney to have a new boyfriend and one who is not a paparazzi. She’s not getting that so she and others are making it up.

    What sells more? Britney with a new love? Or Britney with her friend and agent? Britney and her bodyguard in Cabo or Britney and her latest flirt?

    Britney’s outfit says it all. It’s not date attire. It’s friendship attire.

  97. Amethyst Mine Says:

    We were also lied to about the time of night re the first Starbucks outing. 8:15 in the morning? Dark outside. I haven’t caught up on the boards yet. Is she shouting NO!!!! to her bodyguard?

  98. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Minutiae. Does the X17 photog say, “She really is pissed off,” before she yells at the bodyguard? Sorry if this has already been answered.

    Ama. I know the credit card is not high on the list but imagine not even being able to sign for coffee. If she could run, what would she run away with? Where does her allowance go? How does she access it?

  99. Amapola Says:

    “Amethyst Mine Says:
    May 31st, 2009 at 7:16 pm


    ”’
    Ama”’
    If she could run, what would she run away with? Where does her allowance go? How does she access it?”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    She don’t want to run away, she want to be with her kids!
    Now I think its time for people to undertand that.

  100. MH Says:

    sounds like she said… bad boy.

  101. MH Says:

    I would like to hear from Evel.

  102. MH Says:

    Actually, I think we kinda did through Cloud.

  103. Amapola Says:

    And AM , hope hope hope, pray and wish that there will be no Adnan talk here.
    At least not before there is something to talk about.

    I stil, with horror, remember the time when this loooong and tired “ivestigation/trail” of Lynne Spears was going on here.
    In the beginning it was ´si so`, but then it went to “too much”

    I thought the interest of this site should die.

    At least I almost died of tristess and find the whole ting QUITE hysteric..

  104. Amapola Says:

    “Cloud Says:
    May 31st, 2009 at 7:52 am


    ”’
    ””
    ””’
    Just take a moment to imagine what it might be like NOT TO BE YOU! A different skin, a different mind, a different mindset; where the only rules you have to follow are those you don’t have the $$s and/or the influence to pay for change.. Look for “the real” .. not the illusion. It’s easy if you remember we all have a colon.”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    :)

  105. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Oh Ama. Please. Everyone understands she wants her children. Her options seem very limited and her life unusually restricted.

    You were wrong about interest in the site dying. Okay?

    ———————-

    small. Here’s a pic from way back: http://www.celebitchy.com/photopages/britneypure/britneypure8.html

    They’ve been friends for a long time but you probably knew that. I didn’t know the history. There are more pics out there.

    Fantasy. This not the first time X17 has tried to cast Trawick as Britney’s new man and who is he yada yada.

    Ama. I am trying to understand your direction with regard to Adnan. You don’t want us to talk about him? Maybe it’s that English thing again.

  106. Amapola Says:

    Jason Jason Jason Jason..
    How many times, over the years, have the gossip sites/papers declared that Jason is Britneys “new man”?

    And how many times have they follewed it up with an articel where they say:
    “Jason is Britneys agent, and they are just good very good frieds.”

    Doing so, the gossip papers have got, not one, but two “news” about nothing.

    Read, look and learn.

  107. Amapola Says:

    AM
    If the talk is rubbish, yes, then it’s exactly what I want not to read.

    I mean, if it will end up like the Lynne Spear “trial” here.

  108. Fantasy Says:

    I know that X17 has done the Britney and Trawick
    romance story more than once.
    I was having a little fun at my own expense.
    Since I sort of made something of the rosaries
    I playfully tried to make something of the name
    Jason appearing on the phone in the video clip.
    Just toying around. Amusing myself.

    Small, you might want to stay away from the latest
    thread at BH. That’s all I’ll say. ;)

  109. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Ama wrote, “Read, look and learn.”

    I ask respectfully who are you talking to?

    We’ve had a lack of drama for months.

    If some people want to chit chat about Jason or some other rumor, what do you care?

    To me personally it’s just another clue or piece of evidence of media manipulation and how things work and who the wizards are.

    It’s understandable that everyone posts a round of topics that not every one is interested in. It happens on other boards. People jump in where they want to but of course you understand this.

  110. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Fantasy. You beat me to it. I too was going to warn small. Instead I asked as Roncini (from Pepperoncini) that Jordan clean house so to speak.

    Fantasy. Don’t worry about Ama. Let’s live and breathe.

    Ama. I would like to say that we haven’t had any drama in months. It is fun to talk about Jason etc. and some days I do get crazy with the media and what people believe in the same way that Queen gets fed up with custody v. visitation and other misnomers.

    Fantasy has been a welcome presence. It is fun to talk about what is on the wires. It is fun to look at photographs although sometimes photogs and blogs aka celebrity news sites go too far. It is fun to talk about Perez’s lack of taste or to analyze what he is up to.

    This remains a safe supportive environment so I don’t know what you are upset about. It’s not like we are doing anything new save we have something of a lighter air and no drama of late.

  111. Amethyst Mine Says:

    omygoodness! Fantasy. I thought you were talking about the second thread on BH.

    Why doesn’t Jordan clean up his site? And I mean literally.

    ugh

  112. gigi Says:

    Its like he doesnt care anymore what people post.

  113. Amethyst Mine Says:

    He’s inattentive. Recognize any of the posters? “I approve” = “carry on”

    Same person. Nubs and all.

  114. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Just friends from way back.

    http://www.tiffanyastone.com/images/britlakersphoto.php

  115. MH Says:

    oh man, poor eminem. LOL this happened tonight at the mtv movie awards. make it large screen.

    http://dlisted.com/node/32308

  116. Queen B Says:

    My thoughts on the whole Brit/Jason romance is that none exists. I think he has and will always be a good friend to her. Brit is clearly taking advantage of the fact that Jason is one of the few friends Jamie approves of.
    A few months ago I remember reading stories about how Brit wanted to be back with Kevin and was trying to sabotage his relationship with Victoria which did not make any sense to me because she dumped Kevin in the first place. I think that a lot of media outlets are trying to make some money by perpetuating the Brit/Jason relationship where none exists like X-17.

    Somebody on this board mentioned something about Brit’s allowance and how it works. I always though that Brit had some kind of ATM/Debit card where every week Jamie would transfer funds from another account on to that card. I still think it is crazy that Brit has $1500/week allowance.

  117. Amethyst Mine Says:

    What do you mean, Queen B? She should get more than $1500? hellz yeh but at risk to what?

    Where are the debits to said account? We both have the spreadsheet.

    Brett signs. Bodyguard signs. Show me Brit signs.

  118. Amethyst Mine Says:

    lol MH. Watch out, Ama-the police will show up.

    Oh c’mon Ama. Drama. Doesn’t the board need it?

    We were almost dead due to analyzing Lynne’s book!

  119. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Queen B. I’m so glad for your opinion.

    Britney must be grateful there is a friend from the past, thick and thin, literally.

    I am sure Jason sees through it all now and will be there with or without her dad. He was her friend afterall, not his.

    She is so lucky to have a friend in Jason, someone who saw Federline at his best at Pure in Vegas.

    I am sure that’s what you meant by “advantage.” Good for Britney!

    Good for you. Jamie is powerless. He must tolerate Jason. Jason equals understanding, love and friendship and money.

    Britney takes advantage. Girl please.

  120. Queen B Says:

    Back to Brit’s allowance, on page 39 of the financial spreasheet it shows that the allowance money is being deducted from the City National Bank. I guess I just figured that an easy way to give Brit her allowance is to electronically transfer funds from the account at City National Bank to some other account.

    Another way for Brit to get her allowance is for her to use her credit card (AM EX) in an amount that equals her allowance. I’m just speculating.

  121. Amethyst Mine Says:

    ok speculator. ;) Where does she sign for the money? Where does it go? Bodyguard is signing at Starbucks and Britney doesn’t seem happy at all (not due to his signing but gosh….)

  122. Queen B Says:

    To be honest with you AM, I find the whole situation quite confusing. Let’s say Jamie Spears has set up an account with a bank with him as the primary carholder with Brit’s name added on so the card would be made out to Jamie but Brit could use it as well. I believe this how parents allow their kids to use their bank/credit cards.

    If the allowance money is being wired into a bank account, Brit does not have to sign for anything and when she makes purchases, all she has to do is enter a pin number or sign.

    I remember when the conservatorship first went into effect and Brit was allowed to go to the mall. She went into Claire’s and bought some jewelery. TMZ was there and took her picture. TMZ was making jokes about the fact that what she bought was really cheap and inexpensive and that the card that she used had Jamie’s name on it. I believe the purchase was made after the 1500/week allowance was set.

    I just really hope that Brit has the right to spend what little money is being allocated for her.

  123. small hands Says:

    AM–I’ve seen the pictures of Jason/Britney from a few yrs ago. And I believe they are only friends. Nothing more.

    Ama–I see nothing wrong with speculating. I will keep doing so. If Lynne makes me angry at some point, yes, I will say so.

    Fantasy–thank you for posting the link. I used to be on top of all new Brit pics and news, but I’ve been slacking. I don’t want to see pictures of her smoking (she needs to quit if not for herself, but for her kids) and frankly I’m not believing much of what I read and see anymore. I will always always be her fan, but I don’t feel I’m seeing HER. Does that make sense? It’s disappointing. I do *heart* her.

    Reading about the allowance she gets, considering she’s the one working for it, is so sad.

    Lastly, at least for tonight, I enjoy reading all of your opinions. I enjoy coming here every single day. Sometimes I have to vent. :)
    Good night and see you tomorrow.

  124. Amapola Says:

    AM
    I am not upset, as you definded my comments.
    I was bored. Further on, I am not “a police”. You are to sensitive.

    Some games I don’t find funny. When you and other tell they are not amused or not agree on something, its OK for you, but as soon I type such views you react and describe it in words like “upset”, “drama”, “police” (”upset” and “drama” you often use when you dont like what I say)

    You by that show that you don’t allow me to have an opinon, and that you try to describe me as someone I´m not.

    So, AM, no drama please. Lets move on.

  125. MH Says:

    http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/the_awful_truth/b126531_britneys_not_better_feels_terrible_on.html

  126. Queen B Says:

    I can totally believe that E! story on Brit. When I read the quotes supposedly from Brit about how happy she is with her life right now, it seemed suspicious. It makes more sense that is unhappy with her life than happy. I believe that there are moments when she is truly happy-the times she gets to spend with her children- but other than that, no one would want her life.

    I understand the conservators want to replenish Brit’s bank accounts but I have no doubt she has already made enough money and thus there was no need to extend the tour throughout Europe in addition to a second leg of her US tour.

    One way for the estate to save more money is if Jamie/Wallet and the team of attorneys took a pay cut. Kevin’s child support should also be reduced down to 15k/month.

  127. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Ama. No drama. You’re right. Let’s move on.

    Queen. Thanks for trying to understand and explain the allowance and Britney’s direct access, if any. Do you think the allowance goes toward her American Express?

    Allowance – $55.5K
    Am Ex – abt $128,000

    Charges incurred Feb 08 (unless accounting was late in paying Am Ex or the billing cycle included part of Jan) abt $80,592

    Co-conservators set expectations with the public that Britney would gain more independence in preparation for leaving the c-ship. Perhaps I am wording that wrong, ‘in preparation for leaving the c-ship’ as though it were going to happen.

    It’s frustrating being strung along.

  128. Fantasy Says:

    It’s heartbreaking. This young woman needs
    to be able to begin to heal. Her family and her
    management were able to get her well just enough
    for her to be able to work again. B’s got to
    focus on herself. I feel that she’s doing all that
    she can to stay strong for the sake of her sons.
    But she still needs to tend to her own needs.

    I read once that her doctor’s would be on hand
    while she’s touring and they’d make sure that she
    is coping with the pressure and stress. Was that
    a lie? I know that just because I don’t see them
    doesn’t mean they’re not there. But I question if
    she really has Dr.’s traveling with her. Or on
    call in case of an emergency.

    There’s still some hope for her whether the c-ship
    ends after the tour or not. I want her to be and
    feel free to voice how she feels without fearing
    it’ll hurt her visitations with the kids or
    people thinking the worst about her overall.
    Hopefully things will improve soon somehow.

  129. Queen B Says:

    AM
    I too thought that Brit’s allowance is being given to her through her use of the AM EX card. I guess it really does not matter if Brit has access to cash or her credit card as long as she gets to buy what she wants but I in no way believe that Brit accumulated all of that credit card debt on her own. Someone else besides Brit is using that card.

    Like I said before, as or right now, it appears to me that the conservators are making no effort to transition Brit from out of the conservatorship. I really do not expect to see anything happen until after the tour. Once the tour is over, I feel like something has to happen.

    Making the conservatorship permanent was the worst thing that could have happened. I remember TMZ was like permanent is not a big deal all it means is that the conservators do not have to keep going to work asking Goetz to extend the temporary conservatorship but really how much effort does it take to draft the documents. I see no reason why the conservatorship could not have stayed temporary and then every 3 to 6 months Goetz could decide whether to approve or deny the request.

  130. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I agree Queen. I think we were snookered in perm c-ship not being a big deal.

    She was better off with temporary I think because there would be more frequent reviews maybe.

    Why isn’t accounting more uptodate, like the court being able to review it every three months and catch flags such as $5,000 on Christmas lights? $18,000 for a car paid to the trust run by Bryan and an attorney? $7200 for cable and satellite? March 11th? Did Jamie buy a new TV(s)?

  131. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Actually, I always thought it was a big deal.

  132. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I thought this was too funny not to mention.

    ‘lol don’t tell me you believe in the conspiracy theories with her father spending her money. i don;’t see him driving a Ferarri! LMAO…the poor man quit his job..he needs to be paid..he has his expenses too..you know..like food…clothes…’

    (Exhale)

    Oh dear. Conspiracy theory? First thing Daddy did was to cut her off from credit cards and money. Remember? Grossman was informed. He said he didn’t give (didn’t violate Jamie Spears commands) her credit cards or cash, just access to a car.

  133. Queen B Says:

    I do not know why anyone on this board bothers going to BH. I actually went to the site last night and when I went to read some of the comments all I saw was dozens of nude photos of some guy’s body part. How disgusting. I know other people have encountered the same thing and there is no warning.

    The people who post on this site are smart, sophisticated and discerning. We ask the tough questions and see things that are not on the surface. The individuals on BH are living in La La land. I actually read someone who thought that Brit had full custody of the boys because Kevin allowed her to take them for a week vacation. He actually thought that Kevin agreed to give her full physical custody after the tour. I do not think so. Kevin would never relinquish control over those two boys-his kids with Shar definitely, SP and JJ no way.

    I actually do not have a problem with Jamie getting paid as long as he is actually doing the work my problem is that overall, too much money is being spent. Everybody and I mean everybody needs to reduce their fees, bottom line.

  134. Fantasy Says:

    I see why most Exhaler’s support Britney’s c-ship
    and her father too. Remember, it wasn’t that long
    ago that I was defending Jamie. I’ve gone back
    and forth on the c-ship issue. I think that the
    original purpose of the c-ship has gone in a
    different direction. The system is broken. And
    Britney is just another person, although much
    younger, who is stuck in a system that needs to
    be repaired or destroyed.

    It’s unfortunate that what Ted Casablanca reported
    is being dismissed because of Jamie Kennedy having
    connection to Alli, and he interviewed JM who has
    a connection to Lutfi. Some think that E!=Sam or
    Alli and or JM.

    It’s going to take something MAJOR happening to B
    in order for the mainstream media to take interest
    in this case. I hope that nothing happens to her.
    But it looks like that’s what it’ll take to get
    some attention outside of rag mags and blogs.

  135. small hands Says:

    When the c-ship first started, I had my doubts because of who was put in charge, but I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. I was cautious. If I ever use “Let’s hope” or “Let’s see”, it’s usually because I am not fully believing what is going on. It is my way of trying to be optimistic, but the doubt is still there.
    As for E!, I believe some of what they say only because of Ryan Seacrest’s connection to Larry Rudolph. LR is nowhere to be seen which leads me to believe that he could be spilling info anonymously.

  136. Fantasy Says:

    Queen B. I’ll only speak for myself.
    I go to BH because it’s pretty much the only
    place I can go to any time of the day or night
    that’s is active. Jordan used to post updates
    as late as 2 or 3 in the morning Las Vegas time.

    I don’t always sleep well so I go there in the
    middle of the night just to see if there’s
    anything interesting to read or look at. You know,
    other than gay sex pics and animal porn. (ha ha)

    OMG. L-O-L. As gross as it was to see that stuff
    for some strange reason I thought it was funny.
    Why get mad when you can just laugh it off?

  137. small hands Says:

    One more thing about BH posters, they DO live in lala-land. That is why I have never joined that forum, I wouldn’t be able to deal with their narrowmindedness. And all they want is new music and concerts. And as long as they get that, who cares about the other most important things in Britney’s life.

  138. small hands Says:

    Fantasy— :) it is funny even when it’s disgusting. LMAO. Thank goodness I didn’t see anything last night, but I got an eyeful a few days before. It was funny and shocking LOL.

  139. small hands Says:

    Talk to you later.

  140. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Queen. For me BH offers a glimpse at “fan” reaction.

    I usually appreciate the graphics such as the sigs.

    They are also fast at providing pics and last minute info such as when Radar would be filmed. That hadn’t been posted anywhere outside of one poster at Exhale that I know.

    It is disheartening what some of them believe or want to believe. It also tells me something about Britney’s world, e.g. crazy possessive fans on the street.

    It’s just another information source and it has a fair amount of traffic. I had a lot to catch up on. Still do. Over there they can take one photo and often identify everyone in it and their history.

    Fantasy. At some point I too thought what I was looking at was funny. (ha ha) Even when they are gross they have pretty creative posters over there.

    Some of the posters are scurrilous but it’s because Jordan hasn’t been cleaning house and taking care of the community. It’s costing him but only he really knows the number of viewers. For all I know the scurrilous posters are upping his numbers.

    I post once in awhile but usually I just scan for a pulse or for pics. I have to keep Mark and our friends employed afterall. Without us there is no market.

    Could I live without BH? Sure. We’ve got our group. I hope we still have Steel. She’s an asset.

  141. Queen B Says:

    I appreciate everyone’s comments on BH. The reason why I visited BH is because I get the die hard fans perspective on Brit which I admit can be quite interesting.

    The problem with BH is that there is no objectivity when it comes to Brit. I’ve learned to question everything I read and hear about Brit’s life.

  142. Amethyst Mine Says:

    They are selective in what they digest there.

    Some of them were sweet that Britney was sad or didn’t feel cool anymore. I think some of them really do care and then there are the rest who will believe anything to have their dancing puppet before them.

    But they don’t see it that way. They want a willing participant.

  143. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Just being a total girl here but it must be nice to have been out with a friend for a few hours in traffic.

    Trawick as not hired by her father than I know. Right? So it must be a relief to be with an old friend who saw her through good times and bad, and moreover, someone who isn’t analyzing her all the time or reporting back to her dad.

    He’s an agent. Whatever he arranges for all make money. No one pays their agent. They get a commission. Trip to the Bahamas? Maybe one of Britney’s conditions to bring a friend along.

  144. Amethyst Mine Says:

    MH, I think that was NOOOOOO! and to the paparazzi.

    She’d had enough for one day.

    I could be wrong.

  145. Amethyst Mine Says:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31053242/

  146. Cloud Says:

    Hey. A part time poet. But not Aussie, rather more a Brit’ with USA splashed in there a bit. An Aussie-in-training really LOL. AMA has it in one! Britney is driven by her need for her hostages to fortune. Trawick is a friend involved in the business of her life, maybe worth trusting? Adnan will get through this well. He’s no victim and wont let himself be one. Answering questions on: Evel, he’s being himself. Wolk, renovating his house – thoroughly. Example is roses! He has not just one or two bushes, but dozens of them. “Well! You see Cee,” says he. “I just take it one step at a time!” LMAO. The entertainment industry is selling a product, let’s call it “the talent”. The lifestyles and attitudes taken for granted (”hohum, don’t get busted”) in the industry would be seen by most as bizarre? amoral? sick? But slide your mind sideways into a world which is almost all about appearances. Who are they? The act? or ..? And if they are doing the dee-rugs dears, legal and/or illegal (it’s everywhere, any time) then it’s anyone’s guess. Very little experienced by “the talent” is of what most people know as real life issues. There’s always someone to pick up after them, fix things for them, wipe their noses etc. Someone like Britney was/is totally unpracticed in what is usual behavior, usual living. Not only was she depressed, in despair, frightened, alone, lonely, she flipped the $$’s well over. She wanted to do things herself, drive her own vehicle, go to the store. That’s the real deal here. Dangerous to the whole business stockpile which hangs on her doing what makes the $$s for so many. “The talent” are the front line of the industry, most are spoiled beyond belief. Very rarely is anyone honest with them, almost never in fact. But in all of this, think on this one, a person obsesses on cleaning house to release anxiety. That’s a cracker don’t you think? There’s no person quite as determined as the person who has O.C.D. It’s encouragingly.. almost .. ‘normal’.. LOL. Adnan is far too solid, intelligent, honorable and strong minded. Can’t buy the man? then do your damnedest to destroy his credibility. You think that will work where it counts? Not a chance!

  147. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Wolk moved out? Wolk got his own house? Wolk is doing well! Good on he. :)

  148. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Update. The hearing on May 29th was open to the public. Predominantly, documents were filed.

    In civilian terms:

    Eardley’s documents from May 14th to vacate judgment etc. and move for a trial were noticed. Was there a motion to strike? The matter was argued and I think continued. The public affairs officer couldn’t tell me to when.

    There wasn’t any mention of Sam Lutfi or Adnan in the minute order.

  149. small hands Says:

    Cloud–great update :)

  150. Amethyst Mine Says:

    oh thanks, small. ;)

    Fantasy. Did you watch the Bachelorette last night or did you fall asleep?

    I found a link today that I thought you might like about celebrities and their dogs, but after reading through it, it was like an outlet for US.

    That is something that could only be interesting if one understands that Lutfi was an “inside source” etc. I decided not to perpetuate the site.

    Otherwise I am caught up on the dogs. fyi, that second dog care expense on the May accounting report? Was for two dogs. Also, I can’t confirm but I guess that Britney was really normal on the HIMYM set and talked about her kids and her dogs.

  151. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Correction: she was down to earth not a superstar or diva on the set. She talked to people.

  152. Fantasy Says:

    I watched some of The Bachelorette but not all.
    So far I like Ed and Wes for Jillian.

    I was looking for pics of B at the airport or
    somewhere in London. None yet. It’s way past
    midnight there. I wonder how she’s feeling.
    Are the boys there now with Kevin or a bodyguard?
    Another free trip for Trawick perhaps?

    Be back later. Gotta watch the New Jersey wives
    tonight on Bravo. My fav is Danielle. She has a
    scandalous past which the viewers (me) will learn
    more of in tonight’s episode. Can’t miss it.
    Ciao!

  153. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Why would the kids be with only a bodyguard? Their job is to protect, not nanny. I’m pretty sure on this one.

    Fantasy. I only watched Bachelorette because of you. I haven’t watched long enough to know who is who beyond Juan. I told my spouse I was only watching it for one night and it was fun.

    Is she really making good choices?

    About Trawick, honestly have you noticed that many stories about Trawick include some negative dig at Adnan? One wonders if it is purposeful to keep that up. In other words, Trawick was incidental.

    Cloud. For some reason after reading your post I felt I could take a vacation day. It was nice.

    Did Wolk plant all colors or just one? I’m not sure that’s related to a vacation day but I would like to know how Wolk is doing especially now that even more of his creativity is coming out. No problem if you don’t answer. It is nice to think of Wolk and the earth and doing his thing. Roses.

  154. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Cloud. I am pretty sure that wasn’t directly related to a vacation day but it was sure nice to think about.

  155. MH Says:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/pop-tart-the-devil-wears-lipstick-1695388.html

  156. MH Says:

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/06/03/as-britney-spears-circus-comes-to-town-a-new-book-looks-at-the-night-she-went-into-meltdown-115875-21410228/

  157. Fantasy Says:

    Thanks for the link, MH. :)

    It just sounds like a young woman who didn’t know
    who she was and was trying to discover her real
    self. She wanted out of the blonde bombshell
    image that had been created. She was tired of the
    fakeness of who that person is. She needed every
    one to give her time, space, and support as she
    grew as a woman and figured out who Britney the
    person is. And allow that Britney to live life
    for once. She was just growing up. That’s what
    it’s called.

    Lynne sounded like a real nag. Britney knew her
    responsibilities as a mom. It seems like she just
    was having a tough time getting it all together.
    Lynne shouldn’t have put Kevin and Britney side
    by side and compared their parenting at that time
    or at any other. She was wrong to do that.

    Sounds like a guilt-trip Lynne tried to put over
    Britney that backfired. It must have hurt Britney
    having her own mother pretty much say that your
    parenting sucks and your ex is a better parent.
    Lynne’s behavior was disgraceful. Ugh.

    The people around B. have got to begin to
    reprioritize. The career shouldn’t be #1.
    In my opinion , there isn’t very much that’s
    changed since the VMA’s to the Circus
    era. Except that her dad has control over every
    single thing and she’s doing what was wanted from
    her two years ago. Which is to get back to work
    and make as much money as she can. Such a sad life
    that I don’t wish upon anyone.

    I hope B will one day get to where she feels she
    needs to be. Not where someone else wants her.

  158. Amapola Says:

    Who is Steve Dennis?

  159. Amapola Says:

    http://kobason.spaces.live.com/blog/

    “den 3 juni
    Pop Tart: The devil wears lipstick

    Sat by a pool in the shade of a lemon tree, celebrity make-up artist Julianne Kaye is pondering an eternal truth that underpins her glamorous profession. “In Hollywood, people change,” she explains, chuffing sagely on a Marlboro Light. “In this town, a girl can go from zero to bitch in exactly six months…


    ….
    ….”

  160. Amapola Says:

    This persons, Dennis and this women, who now let us read their “truth” and/or “fiction”, behaving exactly the same way, as the ones they blame of living on Britney.

  161. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I thought the same, Ama.

    Thanks for the links, MH.

    http://twitter.com/BritneyBook

    ugh

  162. gigi Says:

    Just like the lawsuits, more and more people writing books about her. Hopping on the gravy train to get what they can. It all makes me sick. Just leave her alone and set her free.

  163. Amethyst Mine Says:

    next

  164. MH Says:

    kevin and victoria are in london. let the party begin.

  165. Amethyst Mine Says:

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2463121/Britney-Spears-ex-husband-Kevin-Federline-touches-down-in-the-UK-for-stars-Circus-tour.html

  166. Amethyst Mine Says:

    http://splashnewsonline.celebuzz.com/

  167. Fantasy Says:

    Well, MH. There’s nothing she can do about it.
    Hopefully she’s not bothered by V being there.
    I didn’t see the boys with them. It’s almost
    their bed time I asume. Did you read that K will
    make an extra $30,000 a month for traveling with
    Britney in Europe? I guess there’s nothing she
    can do about that either.

  168. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Fantasy. The good news I imagine is, no scandal, not with Victoria around.

    I don’t think Kevin’s drives disappeared overnight and what a playground is London.

    I think it’s very unfair to Britney who can’t be with anyone especially the one she loves in that special way.

    Without that option, I think the only thing Britney cares about are that her kids are with her and are being well taken care of, e.g., Kevin doesn’t do anything stupid.

    One could be bitter. I am certain that “Britney doesn’t like it” will quickly fuel the fire. What else is there to write about other than Britney was a no-show for the bizarre after-show party so publicized. Or a reunion with Michael Jackson.

    Also, Kevin will likely be paid (agency) to be seen out with his children along with Victoria (more fuel to the fire) so that’s good I guess.

    I hope the kids will have a good time. I hope they will like rashers and be fascinated by eggs cooked in clear glass in gold oil. I was.

    I think Victoria is the non-drinker stress reliever, keep Kevin in check.

  169. Amethyst Mine Says:

    You can’t beat a fansite like Jordan’s on such a day. Just can’t.

  170. small hands Says:

    Geez Vicky, did you have to prove to be a freeloader and mooching off Britney’s money also. You should have stayed home and worked or something. Another mouth to feed for Britney. Sorry but what losers.

  171. small hands Says:

    AM–I think it’s also sad that everyone around her can be with someone they care about, but she can’t.

  172. Fantasy Says:

    I’m taking a short break from Exhale.
    It’s dizzying. Every 10-15 seconds there’s a
    new page full of people freaking out.

    Do you guys think that’s why K and B had a meeting
    the other week? Like for him to tell her that V
    was going to come with him to London. I don’t
    think she found out today. Maybe it’s not a big
    deal to her.

    Yes, it’s kinda sad that other’s bf’s and gf’s
    can go to Europe while Britney, from how it
    appears, is solo. I recall Jamie with his gf in
    Montreal and I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s in
    the city too. It can get lonely from time to time
    being on the road. Well, there’s always Fe & Brett
    if Britney gets bored and wants to hang out with
    someone. It’s not the same as having a bf or
    whatever but it beats being stuck in a hotel room
    all by yourself.

    BBL. I’m gonna check out Exhale again. Later guys.

  173. small hands Says:

    Hey, I didn’t want anyone to think I dislike Kevin and Vicky as a couple. I don’t even care. I find it tacky that Kevin doesn’t work and is getting paid to go on tour. I had hoped V was better than that I guess. She just starts to look lazy also. At least in my eyes.

  174. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Fantasy. lol. Any pixxx yet?

  175. Amethyst Mine Says:

    @small

    I still say she’s a, working-girl.

    If she is then I am not judging her.

    I’m not going to hate on her either. I doubt she is in Europe to cause discord to the family. To me she’s caught in the middle and on-a-job.

  176. gigi Says:

    yes I think she is caught in the middle and also on a job. She is keeping him in line and also making him human or trying to. He is not running around like he did when he was with B. He is now home with the kids and V. Too bad he could not have done this when he was married.

  177. Amethyst Mine Says:

    He’s not behaving because he is in love with Victoria, so why is he? Left alone briefly in the south, the tabs were already reporting about drinking and gambling.

    Victoria is a “model” and wall to such talk, for now.

  178. Fantasy Says:

    Britney’s concert began @ 9:21pm London time
    It ended @ 10:56pm London time

    Ciara opened the show singing only 5 songs.
    People said she was really good. They loved her.

    Britney opened her show singing Circus wearing a
    cowboy hat and sunglasses. Cute. The rest of the
    costume was the same.

    Only a few changes in her wardrobe. Nothing major.
    New props: umbrella (everytime) & a cage (toxic).
    No new songs. The new remixes was minor not major.

    Here’s some links of B doing Radar.

    http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00817/CIRCUS2_380×580_817991a.jpg

    http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00817/BRIT2_280×460_817942a.jpg

    The fans loved Britney, of course. A great night.
    Waiting for reviews from the critics, more pics,
    and video. BBL.

  179. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Thx Fantasy.

    Back to Kevin for a sec. There is a difference between the image of a single guy going to a bowling alley and one where he arrives with a healthy looking woman who is modestly dressed.

    If K-Fed hits a pub or two in London, there would be a difference is showing him drinking a pint and smoking alone, and one with an attractive sport-health looking woman drinking water at his side.

    I don’t believe there is a romantic interest but I could be wrong. It wouldn’t surprise me if Camp Spears found her.

  180. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Fantasy. I thought this was one of the better ones,

    ‘Welcome to Exhale, where idiots roam freely on a daily basis.’

  181. Fantasy Says:

    LOL. I love that one, Amethyst.
    The Ex’ers are now complaining about what B wore
    and that she didn’t make any changes to her
    setlist & looked fat. They seem to have wanted
    major, major changes with just about everything.

    Changes! They want changes! Darn it, she is
    Britney Spears not Barack Obama. She didn’t
    promise any change. LOL
    Some people are never satisfied. **sigh**

  182. Fantasy Says:

    Review.
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2463694/Britney-opens-UK-tour-at-O2.html

  183. Queen B Says:

    I had a feeling that Victoria would accompany Kevin to London just like she did when he went to Vancouver and New York. Victoria had a job but she quit that job she could be with Kevin full time.
    I’m sure Kevin figures that with the amount of money he is making on this tour, he can afford to support both of them. There is nothing Brit can do about Victoria being there. As the custodial parent, Kevin has a lot of power.

  184. Amethyst Mine Says:

    The ones who talk about her looking fat are professionals such as yoyobrit. She and others define a different class of fan but she freely admits she goes to BH to be an a**. You begin to get the idea of why we toyed with her — it was so much better and fun than being mad or trying to understand because there is no understanding of someone like that.

    This board has been through ups and downs with tension but eventually we found some union. Of course we also had a moderator, ‘peace and love people.’

    I am sure you can read through a site such as Exhale and pick up the “real fans” (even the creepy ones who obsess about every detail and freak when Britney shows a line or two or a pound or wears red lipstick) and those who are there to enjoy disturbing others.

    They come here once in awhile. I feel like I am narrating from a Startrek episode.

    There are a couple of posters over there that really freak me out because it’s all so real to them, e.g., they don’t like a hat, they prefer this … it really is treating her like a Barbie and then to wonder/sulk/worry as to if Britney even likes her fans and looking for reassurance that she does. It’s an odd kind of love.

    I get annoyed and I would like to think I don’t judge those fans. The other ones I flat out don’t respect. They know what they are doing: hurting people. They have tried that here and not found love or appreciation for their “brilliance.”

    p.s. Fantasy. I became a Britney fan over the last year. She won me over in a number of ways. lol I’ve never been a fan of a celebrity nor of a pap agency. It is a new experience. It doesn’t embarrass me like it used to.

  185. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Hai (effect of spending time at Exhale) Queen B.

    What makes you sure K-Fed is the one who is paying for Victoria to be there?

    MT. Is it time for a icy Corona? Because I honestly think it’s Team Spears arranging K-Fed’s life.

    When was the last time anyone saw K-Fed look really happy? Tolerant is what he has become.

    Steel. Do I have to get out the ganja?

  186. Amethyst Mine Says:

    MT. It’s neither here nor there because it won’t help anything or anyone but I followed through.

    The most I got was a better understanding, kinda, sorta, from their perspective of their job. Really kinda of sorta. Not even sure it was worthwhile.

    No doughboy running scared. But you have to wonder about someone who thinks they are good friends… and not honor the one want (amongst many expressed on film).

    next

  187. Queen B Says:

    I’m just guessing that Kevin is paying Victoria’s way. The only thing I know is that Jamie agree to pay for Kevin to go on the tour, if Kevin wants Victoria to come as well, I do not think it would be fair to Brit to pay her expenses as well because she does not need to be there.

    If Kevin is unhappy it is because his life sucks. Sure he has full custody of his two little cash cows but he is still an overweight, former back up dancer/failed rapper with no real career to speak of. Last I heard he was still pursuing the rap thing wasting money that could be going to Kori and Kaleb. How would you feel being the laughing stock of the nation? This tour was the best thing to happen to Kevin, more money for him to spend without having to do anything.

  188. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I think he only thought the money would make him happy. I think when he was saying beetch he didn’t realize it was his life that would be controlled.

    He had a deal with Jamie for example but Kaplan came in and got involved. So we are told by the media.

    When was the last time he was allowed to interview live? And don’t think he hasn’t been invited.

    He’s muzzled alright save when it comes to image and family — then he too has a script of questions, photos with his children, etc. It’s not that much different than Britney.

    You say that Britney has no choice. In the U.S., if we are to believe media, she said my children come or else.

    Wasn’t Kaplan interesting? He could barely conciel his contempt, if that is what it was, “It’s not about what she wants. It’s what’s in the best interest of the children.’ He’s divorced himself you know in a marriage that didn’t last long. Two attorneys going at it. She moved back to the Atlantic coast and became a low profile professor.

    K-Fed is not a free man. Maybe he bargains as Britney does with her father. $30,000 a month if true? Might well include expenses for Victoria?

    Built in?

  189. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I hope on Friday that Judge Goetz asks alot of questions. Mr. Spears, $5,000 on Christmas lights? And what are all of these business expenses? I see. So Victoria could right along because Kevin makes money. Oh yes, trade secrets. It’s under seal.

  190. Fantasy Says:

    I just have one question.
    Why does Jdg. Goetz handle certain parts of the
    c-ship and Jdg. Bobb the other? Anyone know?

  191. small hands Says:

    If you guys are right about V being a “hired gf” for Kevin, well that doesn’t make her look all that good either. And of course Kevin is paying her way. All of this only leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

  192. MH Says:

    Stupid.

  193. Queen B Says:

    Fantasy-
    Goetz handles the conservatorship part and Bobb handles the restraining order part of Brit’s case. Goetz gave Jamie the authority to obtain a restraining order on Brit’s behalf and Bobb decides whether the restraining order is appropriate and necessary.

    I do not think Goetz is going to make a big deal about all of the expenses because the kind of lifestyle that Brit’s lives in extraordinary. I do not think Goetz is going to raise hell of the Christmas lights considering that Brit’s home is worth 9 million dollars.

  194. Amethyst Mine Says:

    ?

  195. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Really Queen? Brit lives extra-ordinary or her dad does? You make it sound like nothing has changed and Britney is spending the money.

    I would hope for an intelligent judge to discern, hey some of these bills are extra-ordinary, whose idea was ______ and ______ and _______ blank? And what’s this credit to the trust for $18,000 for a car? Who is driving that car?

    And what are we up to? Nearly $4 Million in attorneys fees and how much was drawn out of Britney’s savings to pay for that? About the same.

    Britney did not earn $12 million in 2008.

    I hope your predictions are wrong, Queen. I don’t comprehend your understanding that it is Britney spending this money. It’s not. The judge knows this.

  196. Queen B Says:

    I understand that Brit is not spending the money but I am trying to play devil’s advocate and see things from another perspective. The average person at Christmas probably buys a few things from Target or Walmart and that is it for decorations. I can see someone like Brit hiring a company to hang some amazing lights and assorted decorations in an elaborate fashion in and around her home hence the large bill.
    I know Brit did not hire the company but $5000 in lights is nothing compared to her monthly mortgage.

    In regards to her legal fees, I know that Goetz approved the fees giving to Stacy Philips (family law attorney); Ingham; Wallet and Jamie’s lawyers for the conservatorship. In addition, she also approved the fees given to the firms that are defending Brit in the Wright/Lufti lawsuits. Now in the case of Stacy Philips, I believe she was asking for more fees than were actually awarded by the court.

    The legal fees make up a considerable amount of Brit’s expenses and Goetz has already signed off on those fees. Goetz is an attorney so she knows that the prestigious firms can get away with charging the clients a lot of money.

  197. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Queen B. Just trying to understand you.

    You admonished Britney for spending $255 on pet care in a year.

    Tonight you are defending expenses under Brit’s lifestyle?

    I’m confused.

  198. Amethyst Mine Says:

    QB. Our messages interceded each other. 11:59 belongs with 11:43.

    Thank you for expanding on your ideas.

  199. Queen B Says:

    I agree with many people who believe that Brit’s expenses are too high and should be reduced. I have said that I think that everyone on the team should have their fees reduced but that does not mean that I can’t make argument for why some of the large expenses could be considered reasonable.

    Like I said before, I’m playing devil’s advocate and trying to understand how much money could be spent. People may wonder how can Goetz approve of all of the fees and I’m trying to explain why she could say that it is okay.

    People are mad at Jamie/Co for spending so much money but many of the expenses Goetz has personally approved of so any anger should really be directed at her. Goetz said that Jamie could lease a vehicle; rent office space and retain counsel on Brit’s behalf. Goetz is the one who said yes to Brit going on tour.

  200. MH Says:

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/06/04/britney-spears-the-inside-story-behind-her-demons-she-was-scared-of-drunken-dad-115875-21413210/

  201. Amethyst Mine Says:

    QB, if it was all slam dunk oh nevermind. Friday is full with accounting.

    I can’t understand Goetz.

    And I don’t mean this in a catty way just that it is funny you would raise an issue of $255 for pet care.

    You understand that’s peculiar? You understand Escalades etc. but $255 in pet care, as something she needs to reduce?

    Peculiar.

    btw, did X17 die?

  202. Amethyst Mine Says:

    MH. Thanks for the link. The ultimate goal of the story is to proclaim mental illness and rationalize c-ship. Jamie was proclaimed a “new man” etc.

    2 cts.

  203. Queen B Says:

    For the record, I do not think I said anything about the money that was spent on pet care. Like many, I was amazed that Brit, through the conservators, had spent 10 million in one year and someone pointed out the pet care and then there was a whole discussion about whatever happened to Brit’s dogs.

    AM made it seem like the Goetz would be outraged or deeply upset about the amount of expenses but I do not think she will be considering that the conservators had her prior approval in many instances. Ingham is Brit’s court appointed attorney and I do not see him making a fuss.

  204. Queen B Says:

    So I checked the last thread and I was not the first person who brought up pet care. Someone mentioned the 255 and in a later post I said I thought that amount was too much or a lot but that Brit pays too much for everything but on the other hand, everything is relative.

    The average person does not live in 8 or 9 million dollar mansion in a gated community and travel the world making millions on tour. The amount she pays in child support per month is more than what some people making in a year.

  205. Fantasy Says:

    Who brought up the pet care expense?
    I may have been one of a few who mentioned it.

    Britney’s lifestyle is different, larger, & more
    extravagant that most. But I still can’t help
    but ask why the jdg. would overlook the
    decoration fee amongst a few other expenses and
    say, “Oh, it’s no big deal. She’s a celebrity
    so it’s okay.” There are things that should be
    questioned by Goetz. She should demand that there
    be cut backs on certain things.

    Isn’t part of the meaning of conserving the estate
    is to stop the overspending that was being done
    before the c-ship began? It looks as if there’s
    still an exorbitant amount of money being handed
    out. Even if most of it is to attys., it’s still
    too much. There’s $$ coming in from the tour but
    it just seems to me that the jdg. is turning a
    blind eye to things that I think she should call
    the conservators on.

    Next up. Another court date for Adnan on 6/4.
    Will it be mostly ignored like the last court
    date as far as info being available?
    The only time his case has been covered was when
    Israel (is that her name?) tried to have Adnan
    served with a new restraining order on behalf of
    Britney…umm… Jamie. That’s been the only time
    cameras were present. Doesn’t that sound fishy?
    TMZ had to have known in advance that’s what
    was going to happen, hence the livestream.
    Talk about agenda.

    Are they still in the discovery phase?
    Will a trial date be set tomorrow?
    Is it too late for either side to reach an
    agreement of some sort to one or more or the
    charges? Queen B/ Amethyst, I hope you’re still
    awake. I sure am. Well, if so please respond to
    the questions I asked. If you’re getting your
    zzzzz then I guess I’ll hear from you at another
    time.

    BBT (be back tomorrow). Good night to all.

  206. Fantasy Says:

    I’m back. It’s tomorrow where I am now. Morning!

    http://x17video.com/celebrity_video/bryan_spears/britney_spears_older_brother_b.php

    I don’t know whose car it is that Bryan is riding
    around in. It looks more expensive than $18,000.
    Could it have been Graciela’s car? Or was it
    bought before the c-ship? Or was it purchased
    last December when Bryan was awarded $200,000?

    Okay. SYGL (see you guys/gals later). Bye.
    P.S.-Hope the link works.

  207. Queen B Says:

    Going back to Brit’s expenses, in 2007 it was reported that she earned over 700k per month and her expenses were slightly over 100k per month. I have no doubt that now her monthly expenses are probably higher than in 2007 because of the conservatorship. There are certain expenses that are directly related to the conservatorship and then there are decisions that Jamie has made such as hiring around the clock security at a high rate.

    Goetz could reign in a lot of the expenses but so far she has chosen not to. Goetz says that Jamie can hire security and lease a car but she does not say that the conservators are only allowed to spend X amount and no more. Goetz says that Jamie can hire a law firm to defend Brit from multiple lawsuits but does not put a cap on attorney’s fees.

    Bryan received 200k for his work with the SJB Trust. What exactly has Bryan done to earn that amount. Some people would feel uncomfortable taking so much money from a sibling.

  208. MH Says:

    http://www.britneyexclusive.com/2009/06/britweet_04.html

  209. Fantasy Says:

    Thanks Queen B and thanks MH.
    SP & JJ are adorable. Britney’s a lucky mama.

  210. small hands Says:

    Good Morning to everybody :)
    Fantasy–what kind of car is Brian driving? I’m not good at figuring all that out.

    Queen B–this family seems to be very comfortable taking money from a sibling, daughter, etc..

    About attorney fees, I’m surprised that Kaplan’s fees are so much compared to Britney’s lawyer. I’m only talking about her custody lawyer. Talk about stealing money from someone. Ridiculous.

  211. small hands Says:

    Wait, I shouldn’t be surprised.

  212. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Queen. Did I make it seem Goetz would be outraged? If so then my hope that she would lift her head with questions instead of nodding off agreeably, was put into an active tense.

    So for clarity, it is my hope she will scrutinize to ensure the estate is being conserved.

    Good thing we have archives which we can all check back on which I see you did Queen.

    Queen B Says:
    May 16th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
    ….
    …..
    ……

    3) Pet Care- I agree the amount paid for pet care is too much but Brit pays too much for everything.

    —–
    Fantasy was asking, “3. Why does Britney pay $255 for pet care?”

    I think you were the only one QB to say she was paying too much. It stuck out amid a discussion of millions going out the door. Anyway, that’s where I got an indication of your leanings. I mean, I wouldn’t want to get into a conversation about how much it costs to get your pets groomed in Hollywood, e.g., what is average and whether Britney was spending lavishly or the average for a star with celebrity pooches.

  213. Queen B Says:

    AM-
    There is a show on Animal Planet called “Beverly Hills Groomer”. This guy had previously won the top prize another show “Groomer Has It”. He has a mobile grooming van and he has worked with some B and C list celebrities who live on the westside. He charges $100 for grooming each pet. Some people will pay extra for the convenience. This show kind of puts into perspective how anyone can pay $255 for pet care.

    Also, while watching the show I found out that there is a club in LA that caters to people and their animals. People actually bring their pets to the parties. For people who really love their animals and can afford, money is no object.

  214. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Fantasy. I think the $18,000 is for a leased car.

    I too saw Bryan and the black Mercedes.

    As for insomnia generated questions ;) The last hearing was ignored because nothing interesting was expected to happen. I don’t even know if Adnan was there.

    As for Israel? I hope you saw my post that that CPO was expected in general, it being a criminal proceeding and a CPO standard. TMZ and others made it seem a bigger deal than it was.

    The cameras were there because Adnan was there. He had to be.

    I think Korn’s bigger beef was with a Spears’ attorney being in the courtroom. That attorney isn’t identified as such but what other attorneys’ would have been granted an opportunity to go into chambers with Isreal, Korn, the court reporter, and the judge?

    I was hoping to get the transcript online but I think I posted what was of the most interest in terms of questions we had and/or to refute excitable news by TMZ.

    I could be wrong but I imagine it will be a quiet day as two attorneys come back together again to answer the question, “Now do you both have what you need as far as exchanging witness lists and material evidence? Are you both satisfied?”

    I found this funny website for kids describing the judicial process. Why not. It’s fun and easy to understand.

    http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/eousa/kidspage/step4.html

  215. Fantasy Says:

    Hey Small. If I’m not mistaken Bryan’s car is
    a Porsche. I had to google around to find cars
    that resemble that one.
    The one I found that looks most like Bryan’s car
    is called a Porsche Cayman. I don’t know the
    year, but I’d guess it’s at least a 2008/09.
    It’s a convertible too and they’re pricey.

  216. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Queen B. Is this the next step or what happens today?

    preliminary hearing: A hearing where the judge decides whether there is enough evidence to make the defendant have a trial.

  217. Fantasy Says:

    Bryan and a Mercedes. Really? I saw Porsche’s
    that look so much like what Bryan’s driving.
    Maybe I’m mistaken. Hmmm. BBS.

  218. small hands Says:

    http://www.accesshollywood.com/access-exclusive-alli-sims-opens-up-about-life-with-britney-spears_article_18769

    An interview with Alli Sims.

  219. small hands Says:

    A porsche. That’s what I thought it was but like I said, I don’t know a thing about cars.

  220. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Fantasy. I don’t know my ding dang cars. Forgive?

  221. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Queen. Thanks for the info on pet care. I did want to reiterate that the charges were for two dogs, not one, or three sessions at $85/each. Could have been three dogs but it’s definitely for two dogs on the second charge. I wonder where they are.

  222. Fantasy Says:

    Don’t feel bad. I don’t know my cars either.
    Porsche was the first thing that popped into my
    head. Mainly because I didn’t see the Mercedes’s
    circular, peace signish logo in the front.

    Have you all heard Alli’s song? Is she any good?

  223. small hands Says:

    I haven’t. She probably has it on her myspace.

  224. small hands Says:

    Later guys! Go Lakers :)

  225. Amethyst Mine Says:

    Should we move? Adnan support thread? He looks outstanding. They look good.

  226. Amethyst Mine Says:

    I didn’t want to put this in the new thread. This is the only information from the media I could find on what happened May 29, ‘09 re attorneys’ fees.

    I like their coverage better than mine but they left out what was in the bulk of the hearing; the filing of papers and Eardley being primary.

    City News Service

    No City News Service material may be republished without the express written permission of the City News Service, Inc.

    May 29, 2009 Friday 1:46 PM PST

    Judge Mulls Conservators’ Attorney’ Fees Requests

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    DATELINE: LOS ANGELES

    Requests by Britney Spears’ conservators for attorneys’ fees to cover the costs of obtaining restraining orders against her ex-manager, an attorney who claimed she hired him and her former boyfriend were taken under submission by a judge.

    Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Aviva K. Bobb initially said she was inclined to wait until any appeals are complete, but later said she wanted to mull over the issue.

    Orders issued last month by Bobb prevent former Spears
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    manager Osama “Sam” Lutfi and attorney Jon Eardley from coming within 100 yards of the pop star, her two young sons and her homes, as well as those of her family members.

    Bobb’s ruling extends until April 28, 2012, a temporary order she issued against both men on Jan. 30.

    Bobb previously extended a stay-away order against Adnan Ghalib, a photographer and ex-boyfriend of Spears.
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    That order is in effect until 2012.

    The Spears
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    conservators — her father, Jamie Spears,
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    and attorney Andrew Wallet — want attorneys’ fees and associated costs totaling $121,190 from Eardley, $114,550 from Lutfi and $65,550 from Ghalib.

    Lawyers for Eardley and Lutfi told Bobb it would be more prudent and economical to wait until after any appeals are decided before awarding any fees. Lutfi has filed an appeal and Eardley’s lawyer, Roger Jon Diamond, said he believes his client intends to do so as well.

    Diamond also said Eardley’s wife told him her husband has a heart condition.

    Diamond said his client was not motivated by money when he filed motions on behalf of Spears,
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    conduct Bobb was critical of during the lengthy hearings leading up to her issuing the stay-away orders.

    “He was simply trying to help a person that he thought was in distress,” Diamond said. “He took his actions in good faith. This award would be devastating. The amounts … are shocking.”

    But Joel Boxer, an attorney for the conservators, said the fee requests have been lowered more than once and that the judge has jurisdiction to rule without waiting for the outcome of the appeals.

    “I believe this is the appropriate time,” Boxer said.

    Ghalib, 36, pleaded not guilty in February to three felony charges for allegedly ramming his car into a process server who was trying to serve him with the restraining order earlier that month.

    Lutfi, 34, has not attended the hearings before Bobb, which began in late February.

  227. Amethyst Mine Says:

    p.s. please ignore the odd repetitive formatting. I have properly credited City News as the source here.

    Oh and another article? Can’t trust City News either. Britney Spears was not granted TROs against the three. Jamie Spears and Andrew Wallet were granted the TROs. Judge for yourself. Also, the below was news but not Adnan’s first felony hearing where it was announced who was behind the whole case in the first place? Jamie Spears. And that his daughter was contacting Adnan and that Jamie didn’t like it?

    City News Service, Inc.

    May 4, 2009 Monday 9:25 AM PST

    DATELINE: LOS ANGELES

    A lawsuit by Britney Spears’ ex-manager against the pop star and her parents will not go to trial until next year, a judge ruled today.

    Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Zaven V. Sinanian scheduled the trial of Osama “Sam” Lutfi’s lawsuit for March 8, 2010. Attorneys for Jamie Spears, the singer’s father, said his client is considering bringing a countersuit, while a lawyer for Lynne Spears, the entertainer’s mother, said he may seek to dismiss the defamation claim against her on grounds it interferes with her free- speech rights.

    However, attorneys on all sides also told the judge they will see if the case can be resolved with the help of a private mediator.

    Lutfi’s lawsuit alleges the pop star’s mother defamed him, that her father assaulted him and that the singer owes him money for management fees.

    Lutfi’s court papers allege that Jamie punched him in the chest at the singer’s home in January 2008.

    In the defamation claim, Lutfi’s court papers cite passages in Lynne Spears’ book, “Through the Storm, A Real Story of Fame and Family in a Tabloid World,” which he said contain false information, including a claim that Lutfi admitted he threw away Britney’s phone chargers and disabled her house phones.

    The suit was filed in February, four days after Spears was granted a temporary restraining order against Lutfi, her 36-year-old former boyfriend Adnan Ghalib and attorney Jon Eardley, forbidding all three from having contact with her, her parents and her two young sons.

    The order was later extended until 2012 against Ghalib first, then later until the same year against the other two men as well.

  228. Fantasy Says:

    Which thread is active? This or the other? Both?
    I’m going back to the front page. Bye.

  229. Amapola Says:

    Is it not JM himslf, with Brett?
    http://www.breatheheavy.com/picture%20links/7164.jpg

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