Adnan Ghalib Pleads No Contest
Adnan Ghalib pleaded no contest to felony hit and run in a Van Nuys courtroom today. Judge Speers ordered Ghalib to server 45 days of jail time as well as 45 days of community service. Ghalib must also attend anger management courses and will serve three years of probation. The two counts felony assault with a deadly weapon and felony battery were dropped as part of the plea deal. Ghalib was facing a potential 7 years of jail time stemming from an incident in which a process server alleged Ghalib used his car to assault the process server as he tried to serve Ghalib restraining order papers. Ghalib must surrender himself to Los Angeles County Jail on or before November 26, 2009.
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October 9th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
I’m still rockin my Team Adnan shirt. I wish there was not any jail time since I believe this was a set up from the get-go. Chin up Adnan. Let us hear from you sometime.
October 9th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
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October 9th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Hugs.
October 9th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Agreed Gigi. Agreed MH. Lots of hugs to go around. I’m happy this part is over.
Team Adnan.
October 9th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Judge Speers? Really?
Canadian hugs.
October 9th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
I stand corrected, Steels.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Adnan, show up just before midnight and you’ll get credit for the whole day.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
I’m here.
QB- Nevermind. I have it all figured out.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
I’ve never actually been around when Adnan appears. I’m not totally convinced he’s even a real person! LOL
October 9th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
What are the odds that “Judge Speers” is presiding over Adnan’s case. Hope he is a lot nicer than Jamie Spears. Good that this ordeal has come to an end.
October 10th, 2009 at 3:02 am
um, QB? If you read the blog, Speer is a woman.
We also briefly talked about it on the old thread.
Fantasy made the connection. She remembered.
October 10th, 2009 at 3:02 am
Team Adnan.
I wish he didn’t have any jail time, but it’s better than what he was looking for.
I bet Jamie Spears is happy right about now.
So did Adnan stop by somewhere tonight?
October 10th, 2009 at 3:17 am
Steel at 8:42.
No comment.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:18 am
“gigi Says:
October 9th, 2009 at 6:00 pm I’m still rockin my Team Adnan shirt. I wish there was not any jail time since Chin up Adnan. Let us hear from you sometime.”
I also believe this was a set up from the get-go.
Have now get a short but real lesson in how to do if you want to put a person in jail.
Get some friends together, good if they work in some occupation around the law area.
All agree to tell the same story.
Accuse a person with many different levels of bad/dangerous/ wrong behavior.
Give the person no chance to win the case, get free, because you all withness for each other.
Force the person to make a deal, because the accuses are so heavy, and the person have no chance to be proof his innocense.
Adnan had no reason to refuse to take the restrainging order.
Bur he for sure had reasons to believe someone was out to hurt him physically.
October 10th, 2009 at 11:21 am
It’s okay, AM. It was just a joke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghWpAgFfgV0
October 10th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
LOL, Steel.
Ama @7:18 Yes. Just like Hollywood. Something like Steve Martin, Eddie Murphy, Trading Places, only this is no comedy.
October 10th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Pen and paper. Adnan’s?
October 10th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
‘A plea of no contest is advantageous for defendants where the effects of a plea of guilty are too harsh. For example, a defendant might choose to enter a no contest plea to avoid the expense and publicity of a trial. Another procedural advantage of a no contest plea is that it cannot be used against the accused in any civil suit for the same act. For example, if a motorist pleads no contest to a criminal assault charge against a hitchhiker, the hitchhiker cannot introduce evidence of that plea in a related civil proceeding for assault to impeach the motorist’s credibility.’
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/No Contest
and
‘The English translation of a nolo contendere plea used in criminal cases. Generally the terms nolo contendere and no contest are used inter-changeably in the legal community. The operation of a no contest plea is similar to a plea of guilty. A defendant who enters a no contest plea concedes the charges alleged without disputing or admitting guilt and without offering a defense.’
October 10th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Enter a mark between No and Contest to make the link work.
October 10th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Wednesday, February 13th, 2008
http://www.jfxonline.com/tag/britney-spears/page/73/
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So again, NO charges were filed against Adnan and the Beverly Hills Police Department will not be pursuing any further investigation.
I had heard rumors of a bounty being on Adnan to create incidents like this that will put him a bad light but I thought it was just a joke. I guess it’s not a joke after all.”
October 10th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/britneys-boyfriends-legal-no-no-texting-while-driving
October 10th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Good find, Ama.
I think it’s time for an opinion piece: declaration of Moskowitz, a gun, the systematic vilification of one Adnan Ghalib and the faulty media system.
Faulty or conspiratorial?
October 10th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Your sentence is the beginning of their end…
The only thing that can save them now is to never let go of the conservatorship…
All I can say is that it’s one hell of a video. You people might see it again in the future if we’re lucky…
Here’s one for you AM.
If you can get a timeline on when the conservatorship was put in motion, then maybe you can get a clear view of the road ahead. ( Date ) Why and When? This will show the true intent…
Something is a brewing sort of speak. Yes everyone might say it’s because of the childrens behalf or is it something more. Then you can place KFed as a tool at that point. A tool for what?…
Now in contrast to people who cannot be bought, must be destroyed. As they say, someone has to look bad in order to make someone look good or even better that what they were…
If Ghalib’s lawyer never believed him before that it was a stitched job, he did that day. The video was proof that he was fighting something else…
I haven’t seen Rose in a long while. Oh sure that’s not all I got from the above, just a thought in passing.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Two for the price of one sale?
http://socialitelife.celebuzz.com/archive/2009/10/10/britney_spears_with_jason_trawick_exes_in_trouble.php
October 10th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
http://www.amazon.com/Peter-Paul-Mary-Magdalene-Followers/dp/0195300130
‘As for Mary (Magdalene the prostitute), he notes that though little is actually known about her, she has become the “media star” of the group.’
ah tomorrow is Sunday. Peter, Paul and Mary. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
The overt and obvious 3 song hasn’t made sense to me. Still doesn’t. It’s inconsistent with without a little encryption?
October 10th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
lol ok I’ll stop.
‘Although Mary Magdalene is always a major star in a stage or film production, history does not support the way she is usually portrayed. In Luke 8, she is one from whom seven demons have been exorcised. That’s the only reference to Mary’s relationship with Jesus during his ministry. She became a figure of paramount importance only because she was one of the women who observed the crucifixion, watched his burial, and came on the third day to anoint his body, only to find the tomb empty. In a couple of our sources, the resurrected Jesus appeared to her first, even before he appeared to Peter.’
Britney was raised on the bible. Even when she was with Disney according to Steve Dennis, she was kept in the same teachings she had had back in Kentwood bible school. Math? How many loaves did it take Jesus etc. to feed x people if God (y) ..etc.
October 10th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
MT, should you pop back and I know I am posting too much today but had a grand day off yesterday.
I am going to guess 2000-2002. The virgin. Look down the road to what’s ahead. And?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAY_HaH3B9o
‘A two-month on-off breakup with ‘N Sync heartthrob Justin Timberlake is just one reason for Spears’ ups and downs. Her latest singles have stiffed on the charts, and her movie debut, Crossroads, underwhelmed at the box office, suggesting that her reign may be nearing its end.’
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‘Edgy pop singer Pink tweaked her in “Don’t Let Me Get Me,” which added insult to injury by peaking at No. 8 on the Hot 100 last month, higher than any Spears single since 2000. Last month, the New York Daily News reported Spears’ parents were separating.
She also was embarrassed by a Fox News story in March in which she admitted she had never heard of Yoko Ono or the late Linda McCartney. Yet considering the rock community’s dim view of the Beatles wives’ musical forays, that actually might be in her favour.
But for her latest tour, Spears is getting rave reviews.’
Toronto Star, June 17, 2002 Monday Ontario Edition
October 10th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
day off = …
October 11th, 2009 at 12:34 am
1. “peter, pau and mary” it’s just rhyming words.
2.”The memory of Peter, Paul and Mary lives on today in the the recent release of Britney Spears’ single entitled “3″, referring to the alleged love triangle existing between the trio.” Wikipedia
October 11th, 2009 at 12:36 am
Correction:
1. “peter, paul and mary” ..it´s just rythming words
October 11th, 2009 at 12:56 am
“Peter, Paul and Mary (often called PP&M) was a musical group from the United States who were one of the most successful folk-singing groups of the 1960s. The trio was composed of Peter Yarrow, Noel “Paul” Stookey, and Mary Travers.”
October 11th, 2009 at 1:05 am
They are the only Peter, Paul and Mary. Good morning, Ama.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:41 am
Good morning AM
October 11th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
So is it county or state?
http://perezhilton.com/2009-10-11-adnan-pleads-no-contest
“Ghalib rammed into court appointed Ram Moskowitz back in February of ‘09 while he was attempting to serve Ghalib with a restraining order from Brit Brit.”
Court appointed. Why did I miss this word before? Court. Appointed.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Sorry, that’s two words. LOL
October 11th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Ronnie wrote the story above. He says county.
I believe Ronnie. And my understanding is that
there won’t be a trial since there is a plea
bargain. The sentencing (according to another
website) will happen on November 20. Above it
says he’s got until November 26 to turn himself
in. So, to me Perez is overdramatizing things.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Amapola Says:
October 10th, 2009 at 7:18 am “gigi Says:
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I also believe this was a set up from the get-go.”
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“Get some friends together, good if they work in some occupation around the law area.”
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Steel_M 1:17 pm
“court appointed ”
I have oddly enough understood that, but what worries me is the talk about that Edan Yeminie, Britney’s bodyguard was one of the witnesses! Have I understood this correctly? So strange, very strange in this case.
(The giant man in a black suit, going into police car, is tht maybe Ram M?)
“Britney Spears Photos & Pics | Paparazzi Arrested Near Brit’s Home! – Brits bodyguard is there.
X17 July 22, 2008 1:47 PM. Posted by: Anonymous. Britneys Bguard “EDAN YEMINI” Has been calling the COPS to arrest the Paps”
Cant get the link, but you all can find the pics using the words..
October 11th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Fantasy Says:
October 11th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
So, to me Perez is overdramatizing things.
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Yep. Funny how Perez and TMZ appear to be the biggest culprits.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Amapola Says:
October 11th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Steel_M 1:17 pm
“court appointed ”
I have oddly enough understood that, but what worries me is the talk about that Edan Yeminie, Britney’s bodyguard was one of the witnesses!
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It would be interesting to see how all of this compares to the transcripts from the day that Radar was briefly in the courtroom.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Just to be clear…
Which security service does Edan work for? Which does Ram work for?
Random questions.
October 11th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Steel_M
You saw that I asked?
“….but what worries me is the talk about that Edan Yeminie, Britney’s bodyguard was one of the witnesses!
Have I understood this correctly?
So strange, very strange in this case.”
October 11th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Ram worked for Chameleon Strategic. Edam works for a different company.
Ama. There is NO mention of Edam being at the scene in Moskowitz’s declaration.
He is named in the criminal restraining order but no one objected and Korn just said about the criminal restraining order in general that they had expected that: because CROs are normal and typical in a criminal case such as this.
That is the extent of what is in the court transcipt about Edam. It does still puzzle though but as B is so often seen with Edam.. but yes what is the history between Ghalib and Edam? Edam heads up the security team yes?
Perez got near everything wrong. I wonder why.
Moskowitz was not appointed by the court to do anything. His employer is a private party paid with Britney’s money ala her conservators. The court doesn’t appoint anything like that. They grant is all, they okay TROs etc. Believe me Moskowitz and his team of military-trained “investigators” who carry guns are the best money can buy. I wonder that Jamie could have just left it to the Sheriff’s office to serve the papers.
October 11th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Timeline to think about c-ship? How about when Britney first married in Las Vegas? Remember what happened after with a scrum of attorneys, an annulment, and press releases. Is that what you are hinting at Mr. MT for down the road?
October 11th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
AM, Re: 5:11,
I had that exact thought as well. She was heading into the Onyx tour. Perhaps didn’t want to do it? Married as a way to guarantee her rights couldn’t be taken?
October 11th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Amethyst Mine Says:
October 11th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Perez got near everything wrong. I wonder why.
Moskowitz was not appointed by the court to do anything.
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So that WAS the first time I’d heard that?
For some reason, I get the feeling that Perez doesn’t write his own Brit Brit stories.
October 11th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
I wish at least one of you had read this book. p338 Jamie is having some kind of conversation with Alli and saying that what Britney needed was the threat of losing her kids. Steve adds that as an alcoholic, Jamie knew that hitting rock bottom was the ticket to deciding to help yourself.
Then Alli screams at him, ‘I swear to God, Jamie,’ she said, ’she will kill herself. You’ve got to listen to me!”
p341 At about the time Britney was supposed to give back over the kids, Kevin and Britney apparently had a fight on the phone. She was convinced Kevin was not going to let her see them again.
It was the child care monitor (we know her name though it is not shared in the book)who called 911 after Britney locked herself in the bathroom with her child.
Then ten police cruisers show up, two ambulances. Sam calls Lynne in tears. She calls Bryan and Jamie and they say Sam is blowing things out of proportion and to wait and see.
ha ha it’s my old friend Officer Jason Lee of the LAPD media relations department, “The officers are still there. They trying to resolve this peacefully, according to the court order. They’ve been there since 8 p.m., and it is in regards to Britney Spears’ custody battle.”
Mark Vincent Kaplan shows up. Britney finally opens the door.
Adnan was in Santa Barbara at the time. He arrived into LA the next morning. She called him while he was enroute, told him everything was fine and that there had been a misunderstanding.
Steve says of Dr. Phil’s visit that Britney’s unenthusiastic response to him was likely because he was a Spears’ appointee. Lynne had called him. She was friends with his wife.
Brit’s family wanted her to be held a longer period of time but Brit was out within 24 hours.
We’ve heard much of this story before but now we have a little bit more and it’s interesting to observe that the author saw at least two of the declarations before they were filed.
October 11th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Steel @6. If you read reports in India, the Hindu Times or something or other then you would have read it was a court appointed official. ha ha. What a laugh.
And I agree on Vegas. Onyx tour makes sense as tired of doing what they wanted her to do and take her far from home or whatever. The question becomes how do we prevent her from doing this again. Can you imagine the panic in that camp with a tour looming? I wouldn’t imagine it would just be ticket sales but having this unwelcome voice along that might encourage her. Are you thinking that way?
What do we do if this happens again and then she marries Federline, someone who could be bought and someone who Lynne develops a relationship with. And then against Lynne’s wisdom Britney quickly has a baby but that was just a cover-up over those Britney fired… c’mon Lynne just say it. You guys promised alot of people of things and that includes Jamie who after 2004 per the book is a changed man.
So meanwhile, Dr. Phil issuing his statement about Britney being in dire need of psychological and mental treatment… he was there at Lynne’s request. I mean, who issues a statement to Entertainment Tonight? I don’t think the Spears were mad at him at all for saying that. So the next time the 5150 comes up all the papers are drawn aforehand and it’s easy. Cruise control as MT might say.
October 11th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
btw, MT said they would never offer Adnan a plea bargain…
October 11th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
At 6:03 is the “justification” for more serious action: now Jamie had to worry about suicide; time to take action.
October 11th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
The quicky Vegas wedding was the first time Brit showed “crazy” behaviour…I’m thinking the threat of a C-Ship came BEFORE the wedding. And that maybe she saw the wedding as a way of offering a buffer to a C-Ship. It would mean putting Mr. Alexander between herself and them. Legally. Right? (Or wrong?)
I don’t know. Maybe that’s out in left field.
October 11th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Dare I chime in? Oh, why not? I swear this whole
thing reads like one of those great, mysterious
who-done-it books. Or like the game Clue.
It was Jamie who came up with the idea of a
conservatorship, in the kitchen while cooking
cheese grits! lmao
Sorry guys. I just felt like typing something
before the day is over. I’m gonna go back to
lurking now. Talk to ya later.
October 11th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Steel. I can see them threatening to send her off to bible reform school but a c-ship? Well I guess she was Prozac and what age… 12? It’s somewhere in the book.
Things just aren’t quite write toward the end of this book maybe because I know more about this part than the other chapters. I would not have described Britney as “beleaguered, disoriented and appeared almost nonchalant to the paparazzi that took their disheveled photo.” Then comes her I’m fine.. just sitting for once and then she went back to her house and left with Felipe because she wanted to be away from Sam.
Nonchalant? Please please she had said. Leave me alone. Disoriented? In a new place I can understand but disoriented? And then of course there is Adnan … Steve leaves him to be a sell-out and not quite so chivalrous etc. as he had seemed at first.
TEAM ADNAN you got comment? Let’s see, Ghalib liaise with News of the World … to sell video clips. I don’t think reading an article there constitutes making it clear that the reporters had seen the video footage for sale.
I don’t think the author is as well acquainted with the tabloids and spins as we are. Fantasy, I and others love it when you talk but if you want to lurk ok.
October 11th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Amethyst Mine Says:
October 11th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
I can see them threatening to send her off to bible reform school but a c-ship?
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These are the same people that have her on a world tour while UNDER a c-ship. So…Yep. I’d believe it.
October 11th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Now a paparazzo slips off to tell Jamie about this opening. Seems Jamie already had a few working for him – these paps knew Jamie was waiting for the right momen and they had a discreet agreement.
One said, “I think you could say that Jamie had wised up about how to use us to his advantage. The upshot was that they normally had Adnan on the inside and us on the outside.” There was a consensus within the paparazzi that Sam had to go.
Steve writes, “It was a paparazzi-inspired coup d’etat aimed at overthrowing Sam Lutfi and reinstalling Jame and Lynne to their rightful place as parents.”
Well get the book. Make up your own mind.
Steel. I have privately snickered at the X poster who tried to belittle me about the “court appointed official.”
ha ha. A private party asks a judge for permission to do something to someone, in this case barring them from all contact from Britney. Then the private party hires their own people (the best that money can buy – people with expertise in counter-terrorism, surveillance, competitive intelligence to help guarantee success — hey it’s how they put it on their own web sites.) to deliver the missive.
I wonder that Ram and his partner meant to be discovered in their “surveillance.”
October 11th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
AM, I wouldn’t worry about a single, solitary person who posts over there. Not worth your time.
October 11th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Steel @7:15 good point.
“You can’t make me.” What emerging adult doesn’t realize that?
And Lynne complains well she had all that money.
Triple coup d’etat. Children, money, person. ‘oh yes we can make you.’ Maybe the Spears really had looked into options before the wedding but as a timeline and to anticipate what’s down the road? What do you think it is? Date. When. Why. Do you think the ex-groom would know anything?
Jan. 2004 Brit marries then annuls wedding.
Jan. 2008 rumors fly that Brit marries in Mexico — wasn’t this within 24 hrs. of being released from Cedar-Sinai?
Yeah yeah but what’s that got to do with what’s coming down the road? And the Radar vid, the what this is really all about and the meltdown of the D.A. I still think Boxer is the most likely suspect for being in the courtroom that day.
October 11th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Mr. Lutfi alluded to something that happened in 2003. (Is that correct? Do I have he date right?)
I’d still like to know what that was.
(We’re rehashing now, I know. But sometimes it’s good to look back and review…)
October 11th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Amethyst Mine Says:
October 11th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Maybe the Spears really had looked into options before the wedding but as a timeline and to anticipate what’s down the road?
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I’m still not convinced it’s the Spears hatching the ideas…Think about who was there for the fall-out of the Vegas wedding. Think about who stands to profit the most by B fulfilling her contracts…
October 11th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
And before Doc jumps in here and tells me to go outside, I’ve already spent the weekend shooting outdoor scenes, AND I’ve recently started another business. So this is my “break” from going outside. LOL
October 11th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
For me it is sufficient to watch “the show”, when Britney visit the Jive office in FTR.
Adam Leber and the other old men there was trying to make it appear that it was a relaxed and familiar atmosphere between Britney and them.
Britney smiled a little wry smile. Showing a friendly but silent disapproval. They lift her up in the air, want her to write her name on their wall.
-”10 years” , the said. “10 years of sucesses we have had togheter, and more to come
And now your name are on this wall, as a proof too.”
Britney smiled silent and was not showing the same excitment as they did. And expect her to show for the cameras.
(I strongly dislike the way Adam Leber talk to her. The times he did it in FTR, like he owned Britneys mind, her thoughts, her life. …I hated it, and I still do.
Jamie Spears acted more like a clown, did he not? And you all know, clowns are scary. And as he was aware oof it himself, he was dressed as a very scary clown on Halloween. )
Wonder if she ever wiol be free from them?
Can Jamie write future contracts in her name still?
Britney herself has said that something mayor happened in 2003, and I do not think she meant Justin T.
I think it was that year Jamie get sober and got a new addiction.
The addiction to become a Boss. Show the world that he could manage Britney’s career, and better than Lynne.
He also became a believer, and you know how old patriarchs are thinking. “A man knows best. Respect and so on. My words are law”
I do believe that Lynne never dared to stand up against Jamie when he get sober.
Do not think Lynne ever stand up against Jamie.
And when he get SOBER, he became unmanageable.
Look what he did against Adnan!
He said he “believed” Adnan had something to do with contacting Britney.
He know he could not lying to the police, so he asked someone to handled this matter?
Evil, pure evil, and not worthy a law society.
October 11th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
lol about outside. We’ve all been outside. Yesterday I wasn’t. Big deal. I went out the night before.
Okay hottest comment at BH: he’s still hot and him being an ex con will be even hotter
lol I wonder that Doc has departed. He got a new job.
Mr. Lutfi referenced 2003? Mr. Lutfi gets a deal to stay away in July 2008? What does he know. Enough to say if you do this then I will do that, then Berk counter commands and calls authorities to claim extortionist activity. Steel. When did he mention 2003 and yes it’s always good to go back then forward.
And you are right. I digressed. Lynne/Jamie are tools. Very willing tools but I wonder that Lynne had a change of heart. I bet it was explained to her a little different from how it happened and is happening and is continuing to happen. Then there’s Jamie-Lynne. She can protect her still. Maybe.
In 2003 Jamie was still drinking. What caused his rock-bottom?
btw, our lasting impression of Mr. Ghalib is News of the World. Innocuous. Predictable. Silently out of the picture. That might explain why people did not pop off more at BH. They are threw with him and seek Lutfi’s blood.
The truth has a funny way of coming out. Sometimes it’s sold and sometimes …. the puzzle comes alive and is more informed than what’s been sold.
Meanwhile, if Lutfi hasn’t said more about 2003 who knows if we will ever know. Moving on toward the future … your sentence is the beginning of their end. Always Friend.
October 11th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Steel, small or Fantasy. What’s this about Seventeen magazine and using the words prison and prisoner? 2004. I didn’t know those were words she used …
October 11th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
And what (or who) picked him up and dusted him off?
October 11th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
‘k… he knows the pain and purpose of losing children… what a prig for thinking that was in Britney’s best interest.
Ama, Adam Leber makes me bristle by how he talks toand controls Britney. Arrogant pig. Businessman. Smarter than.
October 11th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Steel. First he had to hit rock bottom? Easily arranged if it didn’t come natural.
October 11th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Apr. 20 2004 – Bryan gets arrested and is put into handcuffs by men in suits at a private party? His birthday in Miami? Someone, a blond, says they’ll call Larry. http://x17video.com/mt/mt-search.cgi?tag=Range Rover&blog_id=1
June, 2004 – Britney pops the question, busts her knee and cancels her tour. The couple announce their engagement (MTV)
October 11th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
“Steel_Magnolia Says:
October 11th, 2009 at 8:31 pm And what (or who) picked him up and dusted him off?”
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Destitute and delirium?
It usually do the trick.
October 11th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
http://www.britneyzone.com/pictures/displayimage.php?album=1258&pos=3
Seventeen Magazine q&a April 2004
Hope the link works.
October 11th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
We talk about dad Jamie, or do I missunderstand?
October 11th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Ama @8:46- LOL!!!
October 11th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Amethyst- I think that was just Britney playing a
prank on Bryan. I believe it was on or around
his birthday. I believe there was vid or pics.
It was just Britney goofing around.
October 11th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Ama, you’re right. We were.
Fantasy, that’s a really sad article you just posted. I’ve been watching videos like this while looking for other stuff, and I can definitely say that I didn’t even see a glimmer of this person when I went to Brit’s concert back in August.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs8nGtdJU0k&NR=1
It’s like she’s just an empty shell on stage now. Going through the movements, with a fake smile that slowly turned into a polite smile for her fans. And that’s about it. So, so sad.
October 11th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Of course she have fake smile often.
If she could, she would be with her kids the whole time now.
Not having to work to support the all the lawyers, Kevin, dad, Adam and all the other who say they helping her, but instead isolates her and forces her to fulfill the contracts THEY have written.
She need the money to buy herself and the kids freedom. It goes round like a circle.
October 11th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
St.Mag.- I watched your video link.
I felt as if I was looking back at someone who was
once with us but is now gone. I don’t want to say
the word that’s on my tongue right now.
I think you know what I’m trying to say.
Just like now when I watch MJ vids I get sad.
Maybe I’m a little bit in denial but I want to
think that that Britney is still inside her.
Somewhere…
October 11th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Fantasy. I can’t get the link at 8:42 to work. What makes you think it was a Britney joke? Everyone was upset. Britney couldn’t get her key to work and then whoever she was with … you and I must be thinking of different scenes.
Wow on the link and vids posted. The 17 article sings home to be convinced people have your best interests at heart. What was she talking about re her behavior in 2004 or is it 2003 she references? Now we are getting closer to the truth and/or timeline?
October 11th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
http://popdirt.com/britneys-birthday-joke-on-her-brother/28203/
Did you mean this, Am?
October 11th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
That sounds like nice publicity Fantasy. It doesn’t match the video I saw. Visible nerves, very uncool, and someone saying, “I’ll call Larry.”
I posted that vid here a long time ago, back when the link worked.
October 11th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Britney was trying not to lose her top but I think she exposed a little anyway. It was a panic scene, very nervous. Steel, you saw it right?
October 11th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Nope. Didn’t see it.
Also, who was it that trashed a hotel room (or was it the second house Brit was renting in Malibu)?
October 11th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
K-Fed is a repeat of the story, huh Steel?
http://www.theinsider.com/news/855668_Britney_Spears_trashed_rented_mansion
Right up to the blowing through cash.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Okay, does anyone remember seeing pap videos of her partying at this mansion? ‘Cause I sure don’t.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Meanwhile remember Johnny Wright and what he told OK!? I think Steve Dennis does try to find Britney in all of this.
Per the psychologist he spent six hours/week with in doing this book,
‘All this does is reinforce the facades, repeating a potentially damaging pattern. Patterns represent a challenge to be broken, not repeated. It’s almost as if every time she cries for normalcy she is returned into an endless loop of the Britney machine. It seems the justification is that, ‘this is what she identifies with.’ I think the wider problem might be that everyone around her identifies Britney with it, too, and doesn’t really know of another way forward. So the performer persona is put back together and strengthened whilst the person on the inside remains fragile and just about held together, having no time to undergo real and lasting inner work. The better alternative in my opinion would be to stop.’
I wonder why the shrink didn’t want to be named. Also if Britney had a psychologist back in 2004 then she wasn’t fine with everything.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
At the same time they are crying that Britney herself wants to tour. Oh who knows. When she was free she stopped touring.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
I can’t recall Britney having wild house parties.
Maybe Small remembers more than I do.
But I do remember reading that she’d bought a
house that was supposed to be “The Party House”.
It wasn’t the beach house it was the home where
she just moved out of. The Summit home.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Kind of crazy since court docs say Sam never spent the night at the Malibu house. Court doc = declaration by the child care monitor? Why was that an important detail to include?
October 11th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
‘k Britney was facing $100 million debt if she didn’t do the tour? Serious? She was in debt for an album and tour but what about Blackout? This is your guy’s area. Augment how many people were “owed” or favored … who had promised what. I think everybody saved their own ass.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Blackout was a relative dud. Even though, IMO, it’s her best work.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Court docs…Was that Sam trying to save his own ass? Avoid getting blamed for trashing the house? I find it hard to believe Brit trashed it…I just don’t remember (via gossip sites) her spending a lot of time there. Though I’m sure those in the pap biz could say a lot better than I could.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Okay…I’ve read reports that she blew through $61 million in a year. Any chance those were planted stories? Another reason to “justify” the c-ship?
Although…I’m sure the judge would want to see some concrete accounting before making a decision.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
I have said it before that Brit never lost tens of millions of dollars before the conservatorship. What happened was you have outlets like Forbes saying that Brit’s networth is 100 million. Then the conservatorship comes around it turns out that Brit’s networth is closer to 40 to 50 million and people think she lost 50 million dollars instead of realizing that her networth was grossly overestimated in the first place.
Stars like Brit are heavily taxed by the government even if a tour grosses 100 million, she does not bank that amount-there are lawyers, agents, managers that have to be paid.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
It’s all a reason for c-ship and I am with you. It didn’t sound like she spent much time at the Malibu place at all and didn’t I read in another court transcript that she wasn’t there much? Or maybe that pap was talking about the Malibu place she had shared with K-Fed.
I don’t believe the story. I do believe it’s consistent with taking a person down and with K-Fed it’s just a beginning. Why. Why now. Has he changed his mood, grown restless of “control” by others?
October 11th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
It WAS odd that it was TMZ that first released the photos of K-Fed’s busted up house. (Or was it?)
October 12th, 2009 at 1:30 am
QB. Good to hear from you and to hear your perspective.
There are many indications of hype on the dollars? She wasn’t a destitute woman and on goes a c-ship where if she was poor wouldn’t be in place.
Steel. No oddity re TMZ. But you know that.
October 12th, 2009 at 2:27 am
I don’t remember Britney trashing any mansions. I do remember reading a few times how obsessively clean Britney has her homes. I remember Felipe mentioning how clean her place was at The Summit. I think it was the Summit. I remember her interviews with Matt Lauer mentioning the same thing. And, MT MAY have mentioned it also. MT, if I’m wrong, you can tell me to go to hell
for putting words in your mouth.
Now onto Britney and touring, I can’t watch youtubes of Britney on her current tour because I don’t see “her”. It is so hard to explain. I feel she’s gone or that Britney is “dead”. That Britney, the Britney that toured in the past, looked like she had fun. There was an excitement. And you felt it. It isn’t like that anymore. Now she is going through the motions. Like a puppet.
Could the c-ship been planned the month she married Kevin? Maybe that is why it was a “surprise” wedding. Her friends and family had no idea until the day of the wedding.
October 12th, 2009 at 8:29 am
Small, That could explain why she had a quicky wedding…and a quicky divorce. If you married a guy thinking he should be on “your side” and he suddenly starts siding with your parents over things, you may start to feel leery over where his loyalties lie. And then everything else starts to look “weird” as well.
Then again, if Brit’s own behaviour was erratic, then maybe Kevin had a good reason to side with her parents.
It’s so hard to know what’s really going on here, because BOTH sides seem to have their bad points. Everyone can make the other person look bad just by manipulating the media. (E.g. Who released those photos of K-Fed’s house to TMZ? Did the landlord go to TMZ with the photos? Or did someone else go to TMZ with the photos? It all seems kind of suspect…)
October 12th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Amethyst Mine Says:
October 12th, 2009 at 1:30 am
There are many indications of hype on the dollars? She wasn’t a destitute woman and on goes a c-ship where if she was poor wouldn’t be in place.
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Another example – the WEG case. From what I can see, payments to WEG stopped while Larry was still running the show. But the story was later used as an example of how incompetent B was with her finances.
October 12th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Fantasy. This link works. Maybe she was nervous trying to escape the paps.
http://x17video.com/celebrity_video/britney_spears/britneys_brother_bryan_spears.php
October 12th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Steel. About WEG. Why was Britney needed as a witness? Why was a point made about her closeness to Johnny?
And if you were an attorney and knew she had some kind of hearing about capacity to testify the day after you planned to file docs to fire Ingham… this is what Anderson was told and it was the weighing factor for dropping the case finally.
If there wasn’t a review scheduled until Aug. 3rd then why have this capacity issue in late January after a minute order had been signed earlier in the month about Aug. 3rd. At the time there was still plenty of discovery to do so Britney wasn’t needed right away. I am informed that the judge knew she would eventually have to let Britney testify.
Also in the rationalization of the tour was “all the lawsuits” she was facing that could have potentially sent her into ruin.
Fantasy. Just wanted to thank you again for the link to Seventeen. I really feel bad for her. Steve’s ends on an upbeat note but doesn’t hide the irony that here she’s trying to escape a prison but is right back in it. But then there is a rational about what happens with a free Britney v. the prisoner.
Meanwhile, what I am wondering is why MT pointed us to the past to be able to see into the future. How far into the future?
October 12th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Just going back to WEG for a sec, it’s interesting that at some point they were trying to show a relationship between Johnny and Britney, i.e., the album liner that Small unearthed about babysitting for Johnny.
October 12th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
WTF…How did you find that link, AM?
I’ve never seen that before. I’d read the cute little story that Fantasy posted…But considering that Brit was dropping the F-Bomb in that video, it sure didn’t look like a joke to me. More like panic.
The reason I even mentioned Bryan in the 1st place is that he was there the morning after her Vegas wedding to help annul it…Along with Larry and a Maloof.
October 12th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
That Seventeen article wasn’t the only time she’s talked about trying to escape:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfaVyZBupiI
At the 8:00 mark she explains the Vegas wedding…The entire interview with Matt Lauer was very revealing.
October 12th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Determination, Steel. Nobody is smiling and they make mistakes right off and are in a hurry.
Whose the girl who says she’ll call Larry? Larry the attorney or Larry, the guy who can pull strings? Also if it was a joke why the huddle outside, the reassurance to Bryan, the flustering of finding the right car and simple things like unlocking a car door from both the outside and inside?
X17 says it’s after the party.
And off topic of this, what’s the deal with Bryan and Jamie saying that Sam is making a bigger deal out of what is happening in the bathroom than necessary? That just bought the operation time. I think Lynne was left out of operation c-ship via 5150? Was she?
October 12th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Amethyst Mine Says:
October 12th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
And off topic of this, what’s the deal with Bryan and Jamie saying that Sam is making a bigger deal out of what is happening in the bathroom than necessary? That just bought the operation time. I think Lynne was left out of operation c-ship via 5150? Was she?
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Don’t know. But where was Larry? If my memory serves me correctly, I’m pretty damn sure that it showed Brit as being his “client” at Total before she was even released from the hospital. I remember talking with someone over at X about it, so perhaps the date can be found through a Google search.
October 12th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
“It” being Larry’s web site for Total. Sorry.
October 12th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
What is Lynne’s role really? The coaxer?
If B was with Total then what was the big to do with Larry being back later? Just publicity?
“We thought we’d give her something to do.” That was Jamie right not Leber in FTR?
By the way, Blackout might have seemed a bust. It would be interesting to see current sales especially after that buy Blackout campaign in September. Who really organized that? And Gimme isn’t being randomly played on the radio. There are contracts to spin it right?
If Larry wasn’t involved in Blackout who was and are they in the current picture? There’s Jive of course wanting a return on their money or rather wanting the promise of what they were going to have before the c-ship?
October 12th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
I think I meant before the VMA 2007 awards flop and whatever decisions were made after that?
October 12th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
I noticed B was back with Larry right around the time the news of the faux “Blackout World Tour” hit the Internet. (And then when some of the dates for the O2 in London almost perfectly matched up with the Circus Tour, it was like, *groan* “Way to go, book her a residency at the O2 before she’s even out of the psych ward. Typical.”)
Anyways…All of that could be a big fat coincidence, right?
Blackout…She would’ve recorded the bulk of it when Dan D. was still her manager, I think. But she gave herself the “Executive Producer” title. Small and Fantasy can answer that better than I can.
October 12th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Larry was back in for a brief moment when she split with K-Fed (and Dan D. went with K-Fed as his manager). Then Larry personally escorted her to Antigua to drop her off at rehab, and when she got out she fired him again around April 2007. So I don’t think Larry had anything to do with the VMA debacle in Sept. 2007, but he was back in quick as a bunny the moment she went under the C-Ship.
October 12th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
“Larry was the one chosen by the team to roll up his sleeves and deliver the message…” ~ Jamie
http://www.popsugar.com/219285
“Britney Spears has voluntarily checked herself into an undisclosed rehab facility today.” ~ Larry
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20012207_20012337,00.html
“It was so right and like my management totally knew what they were doing when they sent me to rehab. So right you know?” ~ Britney
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/britney-spears-thanks-management-for-rehab_1028174
October 12th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Johnny didn’t make his move until Blackout came out. I guess my question mark is about Adam. I know little about him. Does it matter? We’ve got our time line. We may be short of some cast members but …
Is the courthouse closed again in LA?
October 12th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Am I right about Larry taking her to Antigua? Can’t find a link…
My whole point is that there are certain people involved who seem to have all the power…And they’re not necessarily the obvious ones.
October 12th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
As far as I can see, Adam is just an employee of Larry’s at Total. And then when Larry and B get in a fight, Adam is promoted to “manager” to keep up appearances.
October 12th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Okay, I’m off for a turkey dinner.
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!
October 12th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
About Dan. I had to do some searching just to be
sure about it but he was B’s “personal manager”
for approx. 2 years (10/2004-10/2006).
According to Wikipedia Blackout was recorded from
November ‘06-August ‘07 and released earlier than
planned. But I do remember rumors of B working
on new material around the time people were
speculating if she was expecting a 2nd baby which
she was but hadn’t confirmed yet.
I always thought she’d release the cd the year
after she gave birth to SP but that had to wait.
The things I read online and in the mag about B
finding out about baby #2 was sad. I really think
that her and Kev’s marriage would’ve ended sooner
if JJ wasn’t on the way. But that’s life. Take
the good with the bad. JJ’s a beautiful boy.
October 12th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Happy (Canadian) Thanksgiving Day, St. Mag.!!
October 12th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Oh so that’s why they aren’t answering the phone in LA. It’s Turkey Day in Canada. Of course! Happy T-Day, Steel.
Hello, Fantasy.
October 12th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Hi Am. It’s also Columbus Day.
That’s why no answer at the court houses.
October 12th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Oh. Thanks, Fantasy. I think we gave that holiday up here in Arizona to honor a particular humanitarian.
I found this timeline. It’s more interesting than others I’ve seen.
http://www.celebritywonder.com/html/britneyspears_trivia1.html
Did you watch the “birthday video” of Bryan and B?
October 12th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Yeah I saw it. I also watched Crossroads and I
swear to you that she’s “acting”. It’s a joke.
October 12th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Steve Dennis makes a point that alot of us have thought about. To end c-ship she must file a petition but she can’t file a petition without a lawyer and she can’t hire a lawyer so …
He didn’t say much about Ingham but anyway if he had found an answer or solution he might have printed it.
October 12th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Where’s Lulu?
October 12th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Lulu… I am trying to remember who that was.
Meanwhile, people can stop saying Britney has to prove to the courts anything and start saying the truth that she needs to file a petition first but how?
October 12th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Lulu is the boys nanny. ‘Memba her? lol
October 12th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Am, I’d say that’s where Ingham comes in.
Either Jamie does it or she does it with Ingham’s
assistance. Then that will take you to this whole
issue of competence. The attys. and judge says
she’s not able to hire or fire any lawyers.
Britney has to start..well…be allowed to attend
these status hearings. But Ingham has already said
that it would be harmful for her to attend them.
The judge sided with him. All of these men are
in control and Britney’s basically a mute.
QB, how can Britney begin to assert herself in a
legal manner that’s acceptible to the judge?
Any way she can get around old rulings or have
new ones go in her favor? When the tour ends what
can she do to gain control of things? Am I right
when I say that it’s all up to either her dad
or Ingham? What do you think will come next?
October 12th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
I have just look on the pics of Kevin and his “girlfriend”/overcoat.
When I look at pics of him I just want to wolmit.
This happy smile he have.
The same smile he have when he get the money Britney worked to give him every months, I suppose.
October 12th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Lulu WAS the boys nanny, I hope.
October 12th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
I was going to say, with a little reminder of who Lulu was I was going to say, hey wasn’t that Ama’s favorite?
I don’t miss her at all and she WAS becoming obsessive between Britney and the children. She was showing Britney and her own connection up. Thwarting it to my mind.
s i c k
October 12th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Fantasy. Why fire Ingham if he is serving his purpose to Britney? Who does he work for? Not Britney. No not at all. Who pays him?
There’s been any manner of indication she wants that petition but where is it? Thwarted. Word of the day.
I am informed that Britney is always welcome to come to court. Really? How does she know when court is and what’s her purpose in being there? Who guides her? What about her schedule?
The harm in coming to court is bullshit used from the past. It wouldn’t have been meaningful for her to participate back then if all she had to say was I don’t want this and I sure don’t want my dad.
I can’t imagine the psychological hoops she is supposed to jump through. How do you keep your truth when they take everything away? How do you play the good game?
MT is sure absorbed in that other game of chess set up late Friday afternoon without announcement.
October 12th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Not sure anyone caught it just ‘cuz no one has said anything.
They can’t use the felony proceedings against Adnan in the civil suit.
October 12th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
Either Jamie or Ingham have to make a move to end the conservatorship. I know a lot of people think that Ingham does not have Brit’s best interests at heart and can’t be trusted but he is literally the only person who has the legal authority to speak for her in regards to the conservatorship.
I believe Brit has the right to speak to Ingham, Jamie can’t stop that or Ingham can go to court. I assume that at some point last year, Brit made a conscious choice to not challenge the conservatorship and Ingham acquiesced to her wishes.
Brit did go to court last year, and she had a closed door meeting with the judge. She had her opportunity to speak and who knows what was said.
I have a feeling that the only reason why Brit did not challenge the conservatorship is that it was made very clear to her that in order to maintain her current visitation agreement with the boys, the conservatorship must stay in place. There is no way Brit would be taking the boys to Louisiana, Bahamas, Europe etc. without the conservatorship.
I would assume that before the court would agree to end the conservatorship, Goetz would receive testimony from people close to Brit as well as report from a court appointed psychiatrist. After a review of all the facts, Goetz would make a ruling.
October 13th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
She looked so sad coming out of the one time visit to the judge. I agree it’s about the children. Visitation with them know is known factor. Visitation free of c-ship? Who knows.
It’s like do the time and get out but there’s no set date for it to end if it ever does.
In Steve’s book he makes it clear a number of times that the brand, and that includes the parents and Larry, relied on secondary information. Now I hope what they have is primary.
I wonder what the expectation is for Britney in December and the singles collection. What promotions will she be held to that were promised under the condition of c-ship and guarantee of product or delivery?
I wish that was not a factor but suspect it is and will be used as rationale?
It’s hard to see into the car but are Trawick and B traveling alone? Was Radar’s detection of Trawick using the phone innocent or pointed? ehn probably just fair tabloid game.
Re Adnan, I should have said that the outcome of the felony proceedings can not be used in the civil suit. Anything produced during the proceedings is fair game, right QB?
October 13th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
per jfx…Britney Spears went along for the ride as her manager and sometime beau Jason Trawick picked up food in Calabasas, CA.
October 13th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
I guess if a bodyguard was in the backseat they might have mentioned it? I think J was quoting another source but left it out.
October 13th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
AM-
Ram’s legal counsel can use any information that was uncovered during the criminal trial in the civil trial but it won’t be much. Everyone already knows about the police report, photos taken etc. Had there been a trial, Ram’s lawyers would have more to work with i.e., testimony under oath.
One thing that Ram’s attorney will have is Adnan’s testimony, he could avoid having to testify in criminal court but in a civil trial he is fair game.
October 13th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Ah. Ah yes and in this particular civil case Adnan will have his own attorney to cross-examine Ram and any other witnesses plaintiff presents. That attorney will also help get Adnan’s side told?
No doubt Korn unearthed information to help Adnan as MT said the other side would never offer Adnan a plea bargain but they did.
October 13th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
In a civil case it comes down to liability.
The defendant is either found liable or not
liable. There isn’t any guilty or not guilty.
Hi Am and QB.
October 13th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
I think you got it Fantasy. Liability and re punitive damages whether he did it with malicious intent. So there are actual damages such as medical bills and punitive (over and above).
QB. Would I be right in saying that part of the reason for suing for punitive damages is to try to guarantee a trial by jury? Nevermind the possible big payout of money for winning on punitive damages.
So for example, all we have seen so far is a bill from Ram’s employer for about $1,000 in damages. That doesn’t include what Ram may have paid out for himself but then again… If he had med insurance what possible damage is Chameleon making a claim for? (past tense, the bill was presented during the TROs and who would pay attorney fees).
October 13th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
QB. You proud of us and our learning curve? Prima facie anyone? lol.
October 13th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
correction: prima facia.
October 13th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
(Oct. 12) Jane Robeson, the news secretary of the District Attorney’s office, says that the Los Angeles Times (and others) got the information for their story from http://da.co.la.ca.us/mr/100909c.htm a press release posted to the District Attorney’s general web site late Friday afternoon.
She said the LA Times added her name to their story, but that what they wrote is correct. The judge will make the final pronouncement as to the number of days Ghalib will serve.
Posted from FNS sans the HTML code for the hyperlink.
October 13th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
More:
The judge will make the final pronouncement as to the number of days Ghalib will serve but meanwhile judge the accuracy and fairness of the reporting for yourself:
“VAN NUYS – A former boyfriend of singer Britney Spears pleaded no contest today to leaving the scene of an accident after he allegedly drove his car towards a man serving a restraining order against him on Feb. 11.” Press release, Los Angeles County District Attorney’s office.
v.
“Ghalib drove his car toward the victim and then drove away, according to Jane Robison, a district attorney spokeswoman.
–Richard Winton” The Los Angeles Times
October 13th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Is that typical? To release those kinds of press releases? Using that kind of wording?
October 13th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
maybe the 45/45 is what the parties have agreed to and the judge will sign off/sentence on the 20th (if he agrees to it).
October 13th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
The press release as it was seems fine. It contains the word alleged two times. It is however unusual for a journalist to omit such a word.
The journalist was alright with using Jane Robeson’s name because her initials are at the bottom of the press release although it is unusual to insert a name like that. Nevertheless it is attribution as to who said it.
The bigger issue though is removing the word alleged — it does not follow AP style and without it creates a loaded statement of guilt from a court official no less.
Next step is just to call to understand, not accuse and move from there.
October 13th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
the judge could say…yeah the 45/45 sounds good. or… nah, i’m gonna give him the year.
October 13th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
per jfx…Judge Speers ordered Ghalib to server 45 days of jail time as well as 45 days of community service.
i just noticed the typo above. i hate when bloggers/web sites don’t proof read.
so jfx says the judge ordered the 45/45. why?
October 13th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
MH, I make little corrections on my site all the time. I start seeing little things almost right away. They are easier to spot when something is published rather when mid HTML code and a small screen to work from. Published one sees the whole page.
I guessing meanwhile that that’s what the D.A. and Korn agreed to. Now it’s down to the fine print and the judge saying ok?
Steel. Here’s the DA’s site if you want to look at other press releases. http://da.co.la.ca.us/mr/default.htm
October 13th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
QB, if the DA and defense make an agreeable arrangement what are the chances of any change to it once it comes before a judge? She knows the evidence that has been played out so far between the parties… the DA serves the State.
October 13th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
So. As we are all going through various learning curves I’ll say what I know about media.
DA’s Office: They are not in the Van Nuys courthouse. They are not in Van Nuys. The media spokesmen as I was told do not sit in the courtroom. They do have access to what is on file in the computer and I imagine what they are told.
Public Affairs: They do have deputies or information officers who sit in the courtroom unless everyone hurries off to chambers. Then they get a debriefing later. If an officer is not prepared or following the case then hearing a, b, and c were approved but d has been continued, the officer won’t really know what happened.
One’s criminal, one’s not but the Times leaving out the word alleged? Odd.
fyi, Jane Robison is the person I have been talking to all this time re Adnan’s case. I did talk to Sandi Gibbons, another person that is frequently quoted but .. I prefer Jane. Gibbons has said she trained Korn well in not talking to the press. You’all remember he’s a former DA right? And he’s smart too.
I am going with 45/45.
October 13th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Talking to the press that is, while a case is ongoing.
October 13th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
Anderson Cooper 360. If you catch it during the replay tonight there is a segue to a new law and the paparazzi.
Brandy would not identify herself nor offer a picture. She mentioned that TMZ/CNN hire from the same pool. Anyone got intel on TMZ and CNN? I could look it up etc. but … I got a lot on my plate this week and it’s not all that interesting.
Multiple vids played of B and A, and also a Larry and B along with Miley, Paris, etc.
Anderson wouldn’t let her talk about TMZ/CNN but focused on Brandy’s staff of newcomers.
I guess they are both owned by Time Warner. Ama, is Time Warner associated at all with Murdock? I can look it up later but if someone knows that would be great. Thanks. I missed the beginning of the segue on CNN tonight. I had an intuition earlier in the eve to tune in to news, but I opted not to tune into Anderson.
It was just later that I walked into the house from outside and there he was.
October 13th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
AM
The judge will in all likelihood sign off on the deal. I mean, Adnan did plead to a felony which is severe but they let two felony charges go so it is kind of a win for him.
Murdock is the CEO or Top Executive of News Corp. News Corp owns Fox News as well as a variety of papers. CNN is a part of Time Warner which owns People, Entertainment Weekly etc. Murdock and CNN are two separate entites.
October 14th, 2009 at 12:21 am
QB. Good. I didn’t want to go walking into Murdock again. Murdock owns “the world.” Don’t get Ama fired off on him but she keeps my (our) eye on him which is good.
I see it as Adnan/Korn’s win too especially given MT’s initial outlook. I wonder that the D.A. had things in her own hand finally or… the evidence was pretty good for Adnan’s side. It wasn’t going to be a slam dunk.
Adnan’s civil suit will be much more public.
October 14th, 2009 at 12:45 am
AM
I think both sides in Adnan’s case had good reasons to make a deal. You never know what is going to happen at trial and how 12 strangers will rule.
Adnan is person of color and a pap so there are a lot of people who would be prejudiced against him for those two reasons.
I think the main thing for the DA is that a plea deal guarantees them a conviction so their stats look good at the end of the year. It is not uncommon for DA to “over charge” someone when they know they will accept a plea to a lesser charge. Charge Adnan with 3 crimes and he pleads to 1- they still end up with a conviction.
I do not know if you remember but a few years ago, Halle Berry was charged with a hit and run in West Hollywood. She claimed she did not know she had hit someone with her car but the victim had serious injuries. She plead to a misdemeanor of “leaving the scene” and settled the civil case out of court; most people probably do not even remember it.
Also, I just read about the new anti-pap law and it does not even sound legal to me and probably could be ruled unconstitutional because it is vague. No filiming of celebrities in “personal and familial setting” . How do you define that? What about celebrities who shoot reality shows in their homes and out in public. There are a whole lot of people in Hollywood who owe their careers to the paparazzi- I’m talking about Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian to name a few.
October 14th, 2009 at 11:07 am
“Amethyst Mine Says:
October 12th, 2009 at 5:44 pm I was going to say, with a little reminder of who Lulu was I was going to say, hey wasn’t that Ama’s favorite?
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I suppose that is an example of a joke, who ” the ironic generation” uses?
October 14th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Yes, Ama. You were the first to point out how strange the woman was.
QB the “unidentified” X17 spokesperson was right about TMZ and CNN. ‘I can tell you that the same pool of photographers that we hire from is the same pool from which TMZ hires from, which is owned by your parent company, CNN’s parent company AOL with Time Warner. Our biggest competition in Los Angeles is TMZ. And basically…’
Reuters: http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2009/07/20/aol-ceo-we-still-like-tmz-and-tmz-still-likes-us/
October 14th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Transcript from last night on CNN toward the bottom.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/13/acd.02.html
October 14th, 2009 at 11:33 am
AM
In a French documentary from 2007 one could see Brandy in the house, where they work and live.
She was asked about if their neighbors (they are
neighbors to the celebs) knew what happend in this house,
She replaid NO. And that she was very glad they did not know.
October 14th, 2009 at 11:37 am
“Queen B Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 12:45 am AM
I think both sides in Adnan’s case had good reasons to make a deal. You never know what is going to happen at trial and how 12 strangers will rule.
Adnan is person of color and a pap so there are a lot of people who would be prejudiced against him for those two reasons.”
That make me scared and I do not know if I shall cry or laugh at the madness.
How is it possible that a court can work in that way?
Very very very scary!
October 14th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Ama @11:33. I also saw a pap filming the husband out with the kids. It was aggressive and he did not want it. The pap I think was angry about not being paid?
We are in a subculture here so we all know who Brandy is and that she was a frequent contributor to various media until recently?
October 14th, 2009 at 11:53 am
QB
“I’m talking about Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian to name a few.”
Actually a bit embarrassing to watch them.
They pull in money, of course, but still.
One of them is famous for her a**, and the other is always dressed in awful colorful clothings that shows her big knees (and also kissing real pigs if necessary)
October 14th, 2009 at 11:55 am
” until recently?”
What happend, why not still?
October 14th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Correction to 11:53
The are also very narcissistic persons who not get damaged by being in the spotligths round the clock.
Oddly. That fact make them boring to watch!
It´s like a husband find his wife naked in the hall everyday he come home.
Not so fun after some time.
October 14th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
SP and JJ Home For Christmas? (with Britney)
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/133351/Britney-bid-to-win-back-sons-for-christmas
October 14th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Fantasy. Why do I wonder, is TMZ not running this story of late…
I’m sure they will again but …
Zip has been filed in the probate and the custody cases. I wonder what MVK is thinking as the brand grows Britney’s positive parenting image while throwing K-Fed back under the bus.
There is nothing on the case calendar but the parties could be talking about it off-record.
Wyle recently filed a motion to confirm a sealing order of records last week. That will be heard 11/20. I doubt it’s related. In short I’ll believe all this custody by Christmas business when I see it.
October 14th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Correction: it seems that some district attorney media relations spokespersons do go to court. Just an aside. The first person I talked to gave no indications but was defensive in what she knew versus what she would give out? “We’re not even over there (Van Nuys) she said.”
October 14th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
I read the story about Brit getting custody for Christmas and it contained so many inaccuracies I did not even link to it here.
First, the court did not award Brit any custody. Brit and Kevin reached an agreement that the court signed off on. There was no judicial determination as to Brit’s fitness as a parent. Second, even though Brit was able to take the kids on tour, Kevin went on tour as well.
Third, the children have not been in Brit’s full time care since January 2007 so the children are used to being primarily with their dad or with both parents, so that is the status quo. Fourth, why would Kevin agree to give Brit full custody. Would not the ideal situation would be
joint legal/physical custody for both parents. Just because Brit is the mother does not mean she is automatically entitled to full custody.
Fifth, how can Brit obtain full custody while under a conservatorship. She has does not have legal control over her own life.
If there ever was to be a custody showdown between Brit and Kevin, the fact the she is under a PERMANENT CONSERVATORSHIP for over a year would be a problem.
When Brit filed for divorce she wanted sole legal and physical custody of the boys and did not get it back in 2007, how she can get it now after everything has happened; very unlikely.
October 14th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Queen B Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
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First, the court did not award Brit any custody.”
Ama comment: Bad Britney Bad, say all the men who want your money and all the women who they pay say.
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Thank GOD Kevin follow the tour. How could anyone have think that the kids could be safe if he not get paid to follow the tour?
“QB
Fourth, why would Kevin agree to give Brit full custody. Would not the ideal situation would be
joint legal/physical custody for both parents.”
Ama comment: NO, absolutly no! He should stay a long way from this kids. Afraid they would take up some of his bad behavior if they stay with him and his payed staff women.
“QB. Just because Brit is the mother does not mean she is automatically entitled to full custody.”
Ama comment. “Just because Brit is the mother of this two wonderful boys, and love them deeply and can give them a loving future and good opertunitys too, she shall be the one who the kids shall live with.
She wanted them, she longed after them, long before they was in this world.
Any decent human, now living, understand how much Kevin Federlin cared…he showed it so well when he really was needed, when the boys was almost newborn and THE Mother Of The Kids Wanten Him To Take Family Responsibility.
Of course, Kevin is the best father in the whole US, Kevin Kevin Kevin.
White.
Good.
Fine.
A dream man…
Women are crazy in love with him. He still get women. Why? Because he so nice and handsome and Sweet, as Shar said? No because he get money from Britney.
The man who act and talk, thinks like a child.
October 14th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
QB. Excellent job in dissecting the crap out of that article and others like them. Pure logic.
October 14th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Ama. I did not mean 3:28 as a slam against you but QB did a good job in explaining that this full custody plan is tabloid foolery.
October 14th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
AM
You have all your right to think and say what you mean, but you know, I´m, fed up with this hypocrisy about Kevin Federline.
(this about “White” and so on in my commment, that I wish I havent write, I was upset, it was to much, and also stupid of me.
me)
October 14th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1929855,00.html?iid=tsmodule
Good gravy. Even the Time is using “sources” throughout its piece. They couldn’t find a source who would go on the record in support of Jamie’s old bad rap and now?
October 14th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Amapola-
I respect your opinion but as someone who currently working in a family law office, I can’t tell you how fortunate Brit is to be able to see her children as much as she does. Most non-custodial parents only see their children every other weekend-that is the norm; joint custody (50/50) is not the norm especially for someone with Brit’s history.
Most people believe that the family courts are biased in favor of women therefore if Brit were a man she would be lucky if she saw her kids once or twice a week for a few hours at a time.
I have never been a supporter of Kevin and I do not think he is “father of the year” but he is the man Brit chose to marry and have children with so she is stuck with him.
Going back to the Time article, it is interesting how Brit’s success under the conservatorship is measured by how much money she is pulling in.
Think about it- how weird is it that a supposedly mentally ill woman is supporting hundreds of people financially. I could care less about how much money she is banking; it is not as if she was poor to begin with-she was multi-millionaire.
In any event, the conservatorship can be considered a success if when it expires, Brit goes on to live a very happy and productive life free of the problems that once plagued her so the verdict is still out on the conservatorship in my opinion.
October 14th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
“In any event, the conservatorship can be considered a success if when it expires, Brit goes on to live a very happy and productive life free of the problems that once plagued her so the verdict is still out on the conservatorship in my opinion.”
Best post of near two years now for the board? Hard to compete with that MT and some others but thank you QB for once again articulating something I struggled to even think at. You are right that that would be the measure of success.
You and I sometimes talk about our professions. Today is a happy day on campus and off for what some pivotal journalists are noticing through almost the “oddity” of my column. At first glance it’s celebrity journalism but on second? So yes, stressful, hectic but a happy day and like you I don’t have to pay for parking.
October 14th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Freudian slip?
http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/14/britney-spears-alive-and-well/
October 14th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
AM-
Thanks for the compliment; I just wrote the first thing that popped into my head when I read the article. Sam Lutfi’s and Ali’s comments were interesting. I know they are so upset because they were kicked out of Brit’s life by Jamie but I would hope they would wish her the best anyway.
AM, you’re making progress in your career and after six months so have I. When I first started posting comments, I was an unemployed new attorney and now I have a part time job in a law office doing mostly family law.
October 15th, 2009 at 7:09 am
She’d first have detoxified from wrong and dangerous medication doses, as Sam Lutfi had forced into her body.
None conservationship were in need, for this to happen.
After that.
She needed time to heal. A place where she could rest and get the right medicine, and speak with a person who would not sell her inner soul of sorrow and suffering to the media.
None conservationship were in need, for this to happen.
After that.
She needed antidepressed medicine at the right dose, so they dont influinez wrong with her. Does not make her tired, or otherwise.
None conservationship were in need, for this to happen
All this time
She should have been able to have their children close to her, members of the family she could talk to and felt comforted by. And they should have had as its primary mission to provide her and the boys, that all the time they needed, based on a sound relationship for the future.
None conservationship were in need, for this to happen
She did also needed dance and sing. Exercise of her physique body to heal, in a level that she felt was right for her.
None conservationship were in need, for this to happen
When it comes to the company’s part, there must be some honest U.S. attorney / court / person who could have been responsible during this time, so when she felt the time had come for her, she and her children, her family, and her ex – husband, could begin to talk together.
I repeat
If Kevin Federline had followed that line, and her family also followed this route, then she could now, with the truth in his heart, thank them.
October 15th, 2009 at 9:45 am
I feel like I just have to talk about the document
that was filed last week in Britney’s c-ship case
in which it states on the document that she is
“deceased”. I mean, I know that she isn’t coming
across as the person she once was but for Pete’s
sake how could someone put THAT on a document?
Secreterial mess up, says TMZ. Excuse me?
WTH is this all about. And yes I freaked out when
I saw this. As I feel I should have. How many
times have documents been filed to the court
concerning this conservatorship in the past 20
months? How could a mistake like that occur?
How many Britney Jeans Spears’s are there in Los
Angeles who is 27 and in a conservatorship?
None! She is the only one.
Wyle or whoever had those docs filed better clear
this mistake up fast and this better never happen
again. There’s no excuse for this.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Fantasy-
You are pretty upset with Wyle but I can tell you that someone who is on the “partner level” as Wyle probably does not even review every single document prepared for the conservatorship, mostly likely a lower level attorney or legal secretary screwed up- it happens. It is possible that whoever typed the word “deceased” or checked the wrong box was thinking about somone or something else. No one is going to get fired over this but I’m sure a memo will be sent to everyone to be more careful.
Amapola-
I know you think the conservatorship was not needed and to some extent you are right but that assumes that Brit was in a position mentally and physically to pull herself together and she was not at that time.
Remember, Brit was being medicated and would often go days without sleep; she was not thinking clearly; she trusted the wrong people; Lutfi had total control so the only way to put an end to the madness was for Jamie and Co. to take over.
It was not the ideal situation but the conservatorship or some kind of intervention was necessary at that time.
October 15th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
First, about my long comment.
The service from the translator almost change every “her” to “his”!!!
They, “it”, ask always: “Do you mean “his”?
I say NO, I mean “her”, NOT “he”, , and “she” and NOT his…..zxzxzxzxzxzvcxzzcasgkatnlkymrtlkm!!!!!!
If one try to write an document, talking about buisness, the translator gone wild, “his”, you mean “he”, “his”?
No I mean her!!!!! HER, SHE!!!!!!!
This is a mans world!
October 15th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
LOL, Ama I know what you mean from using computer translators myself. Sometimes the translation is humorous and at other times, exasperating.
I am meanwhile going to go with Vegas and that early marriage as the first thought toward c-ship and the control of Britney Spears. Still mulling over what that could point to in the future on the chestboard.
If I were Britney and I am not, I would find the idea of marriage and “permanent escape from control by others” attractive if not logical. Mmmm Papi. What if she were released from c-ship and sneezed? Would they not just clamp the vise back on?
October 15th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
About the state of mind Britney was in before –
If you dont have a hidden agenda, and you are a loving family, you could have explain the situation about wrong medicine, and detox from it, and time to rest.
The possibility to having her kids with her and of course Kevin too. Standing by her side, saying, we solved this later, when you are better.
All lawyers..Was that nesserery? This money should have gone to the kids, and Britney and Kevin instead.
I do not belive that Britney would have refuse the kids to have a close connection to their father, she loves them to much for hurting them in that way.
I also believe that Kevin would have been in a better state today, if he have choice to cooperate instead of listen to Kaplan.
Of course Kevin would have had a lawyer to look on whats happend, but this with Kaplan and Britneys father + lawyer and the whole family + lawyers and all the other + lawyers..
This all is because people are lying. They are hypocrites.
If they see love, they do everything to stop it.
They talk about love and care, but they have only money on their mind.
October 15th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
AM
She her hers
October 15th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
October 15th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Some light reading on Adam Streisand who says some interesting things about people and relationships.
http://www.loeb.com/files/News/c6b8ee37-93e1-4838-a5d7-0e5b9035769c/Presentation/NewsAttachment/631282ad-3fee-4958-9520-06f70fef6eef/DJ June 13 2005 Death Becomes Him.pdf
Wyle is also mentioned. I guess they’ve worked together in the past.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Amapola,
I see what you are saying and you believe the involvement of the lawyers was not necessary, however, it is important to remember that Brit had been estranged from both her parents, especially her father for many months. She hated them because she felt they had forced her into rehab when she did not need to be there. She was also was not speaking to Kevin either.
Having resented her parents and Kevin because of the rehab stint, I doubt she would have been open to getting help and treatment from them without some kind of court order.
It would have been great if Brit could have gotten better on her own but with people surrounding her like Lutfi, that was impossible.
October 16th, 2009 at 10:30 am
QB
I repeat.
If her family and some of her close friends (you know the girls form Kentwood, and her brother perhaps?) Kevin for sure.
If they all had told her this facts I write about in the comment you refer to, and she also got to know that she would not loose contact with her kids, in fact they would be the most wonderful part of the joy she could look forward, then I am sure that Britney, with all her money, had possibility to turn everything to the best. Without lawyers.
Get all the time she needed to be strong again.
Then they could all be free persons now.
Today, Britney, her kids, Kevin (Shar and her kids too) and Britneys family are “kidnapped” by lawyers.
Their privacy are kidnapped. They cant live a full life.
Their life are orchestrated by lawyers and others who have their own agenda.
October 16th, 2009 at 10:44 am
This information hade Kevin (and his friends) before it was any talk about a divorce..so he had the possibility to choice how he could act.d.
Monday, Sep. 27, 2004
Is Britney Spears Legally Married?
And If So, Is Her Prenup Enforceable?
By JOANNA GROSSMAN
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/grossman/20040927.html
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So what, exactly, is Britney and Kevin’s legal status now? Are they legally married? If so, does the prenuptial agreement apply? What difference, if any, does this “faux marriage” contract make?
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October 16th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
hey britney do you know adnan’s going to jail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QDzPjjoq8Y&feature=player_profilepage
October 16th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
oops…
http://x17video.com/celebrity_video/britney_spears/britney_and_jason_driving_in_b.php
October 16th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
MH
As the photographer had the microphone closest to his own voice, we do not know if she heard what he said.
It would be very odd if she did not know how things are with Adnan.
Sadly, it does not help. There is nothing she can do.
She wants her children back.
The double standards are in the way of common sense.
Perez Hilton who talks so much shit about Adnan is curiously against hypocrisy and racial discriminering.
For Adnan, however, he apparently has different rules …
Today on Perez site:
Interracial Couple Denied Marriage License!
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Apparently Bardwell’s reasoning for refusing to issue the marriage license to Terrence McKay and Beth Humphrey was that in his experience interracial marriages do not last and he worries about the couple’s future children.
He insists that he’s not racist:
“I’m not a racist. I do ceremonies for black couples right here in my house. My main concern is for the children.”
We call BS and his behavior is completely racist!
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Love is love, people! Marriage should be for everyone!
Filed under: Etc.
Perezhilton.com
October 16th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
‘It would be very odd if she did not know how things are with Adnan.’
She’ll know this time but what about knowing all along?: My thoughts toward the lack of media coverage between the end of April and Friday, Oct. 9.
Meanwhile, if Britney heard about Adnan, etc. she knows how to ignore the paps by now and showing a reaction. I hope she got to see some of Adnan doing that. Strength.
October 16th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
QB. This comment is off my blog by Le Templar, journalist. Your thoughts Mademoiselle Attorney?
‘While it’s not explained in the D.A. news release, my guess (based on prior crime coverage experience) is the hit-and-run charge was reduced to the leaving-the-scene misdemeanor charge to which Ghalib pleaded no contest. And then other two felony charges will be dismissed when he’s sentenced(assuming he doesn’t do anything to anger the court before then). You might want to ask the DA spokeswoman specifically about this, and provide additional clarification.’
October 16th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
QB. If you dare to participate in the conversation you can respond directly to Le under comments here:
http://fairnewsspears.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/felony-charges-dismissed-against-adnan-ghalib/#comment-51
I am not sure if he check marked the “let me know if there is a reply” to the thread but I can let him know. He’s no nonsense, razor sharp. He also deals with politics and politicians so he sees through things pretty quick? He is one of the mentors I mentioned. He has my private email so I wonder that he did want to open a public discussion?
October 16th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
QB. By dare means I will see your IP address but no one else. I will never give anyone anyone’s IP address etc., just like Ronnie.
October 16th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
You are all invited but I really would like to hear from QB as to Le’s experience and thought toward what he thinks what happened with A and those charges.
October 16th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
AM-
I just posted something under fair news.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:00 am
Just saw it. Brava. I hope Le will respond. Thank you, QB. This should be interesting with a serious reporter who has covered criminal courts as part of his beat.
October 17th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
“MH Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:03 pm hey britney do you know adnan’s going to jail”
The answer?
http://www.breatheheavy.com/picture%20links/7840.jpg
October 17th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Had to copy the link into a new tab to get it to work.
Ama. Do you really think Britney is crying in that photo? She’s like me and can’t stop the corners of her lips turning down when she cries. I doubt she is crying in that photo but she has looked sad.
I looked through all of the photos from Friday, Oct. 9 on killthelights.org and she did seem to go from being in a happy mood to hearing bad news while on the phone.
October 17th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Maybe it is a mild contained cry. I know the photo you posted is from the next day or so. Sorry for any confusion.
October 17th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
“AM 3:28 pm
Ama. Do you really think Britney is crying in that photo?”
No I have not say a wrd about crying.
I give a link to a pic.
Everyone who look on the pic have to find out themself what it look like.
I do not think she look glad or happy, that I can say.
Maybe more like trying to not cry?
I could not see all the information you saw. Britney getting bad news on the phone.
I saw she get the phone ready for taking videos. Jason wantend to do that. And did.
October 17th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
correction:
I could not see all the information you saw. “Britney getting bad news on the phone”
October 17th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
AM
Was it from the day after, or was it published the day after?
I thougt it was after they swich places in the car.
October 17th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Ama. Try here. http://killthelights.org/ I visit the site often and they usually have the most comprehensive set of photographs.
I also like them because they let me post their photos and say they are glad to have someone properly credit them.
October 17th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Try here, Ama. http://killthelights.org/index.php?cat=179
October 17th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Specific: http://killthelights.org/thumbnails.php?album=7860
October 17th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Can anyone say if those photos are in chronological order or not?
Those photos were taken in the afternoon. At least that’s what I’d read. Britney’s mood did seem to go from happy to bummed out within the time she was seen on the cell phone.
I find that photos 24-28 are the most interesting.
October 17th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
For example. I think this is photo #25.
http://killthelights.org/displayimage.php?album=7860&pos=25
She’s like, “What?”
October 17th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
You’ll have to click back on the arrow to see photo number 25. It’s her starring at Jason as if she’s in disbelief or shocked about something.
I’m not a body language expert but that’s how I am reading her expression in the photo.
October 17th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
http://killthelights.org/displayimage.php?album=7860&pos=28
Photo 29/55 Fri. Oct. 9, 2009. Posted the following day at KTL.org
I really don’t know what to call that expression.
October 17th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
http://killthelights.org/displayimage.php?album=7860&pos=27
File 28/55
Is she saying the F word? Great. Now I’m trying to read lips. Anyway. Something obviously got to her and upset her a bit. And that’s okay. She’s human and allowed to have or show emotion. I’m only commenting on what I think I see. Please don’t get upset. **cough** Ama **cough**
Just kidding. ha ha
October 17th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Why, Fantasy. Something looks different about you.
If you watch the vid from that day it might be easier to sort the order of the photos.
October 17th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Amethyst @ 5:36- I like how it looks also.
I’ll look for the video from that day. There is video right? I mean, that day. I think so.
October 17th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
So no one saw what I believed i saw?
Britney made the phone ready for video, gave it then to Jason who instantly uses it as a video camera?
Why Jason wanted to do so, I do not know. Cars driving close to Britneys car?
Or he is upset because Britney is upset, because she have heard a question who upset her. Made her sad.
Of couse she must be upset of Adnan going to jail.
And she can not do anything to stop the scenario.
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We see different things in the information we get.
No wonder it has been so many missunderstandings between us.
October 17th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Fantasy
You can see the video on BH site, but ist is a x 17 video.
First you see Britney driving. The question is asked.
Then, later on in the video, you see Jason drive.
I remember I read somewhere that they was driving up in some parking place and then come out again. Then Jason was driving.
I can have get thet totally wrong, but I remember something like that.
October 17th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Ama, I saw what you saw. I saw Jason holding up the phone filming the paps who were filming them.
Honestly, I couldn’t tell if B put the phone on video and handed it to Jason.
Ama 10/17/2009 @ 3:08pm- I don’t know if that’s an “answer”. I just watched the video of that moment at Breatheheavy and it looked to me like she was just blowing out cigarette smoke.
October 17th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
I think we are talking about the same thing.
I may interpret things differently but I’d say that we did see the same thing. Pretty much.
October 17th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Fantasy
Weel, I could se she hanlgin over the phone to Jason, I saw her “doing” something with if before that, nd they was talking.
the pics on
http://killthelights.org/
1, “October 15 – Britney abd Jason driving around in Beverlly hills”
(the garage, pics on before and after the question was asked)
2. October 15, Britney smokes in car in Bevery Hills.
(when Jason is driving and when he make a video..)
October 17th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Thank you, Ama. I see now.
October 18th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Sometimes it takes getting everything correct in an article to…
Adnan did not plea no contest to hit and run. He plead no contest to leaving the scene of an ACCIDENT.
I will confirm with the district attorney’s office that Adnan faces a misdemeanor charge only now. I would have done it this week but couldn’t get a return call from Jane Robison.
October 18th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
QB. In California the difference between a hit and run misdemeanor versus a felony charge is based on property damage versus bodily harm?
October 18th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
It will be interesting to learn …JFX wrote felony hit and run charges. Well, it’s a first time experience for almost all of us that I know.
October 18th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
AM
I have used the translators tool, and I say, the translate is very very odd.
But I understand it like this, by reading your comment:
Andan have not in done any serious crime and will not get any serious punishment?
(If I read what the translator proposes, it is like my language year 1400! )
October 18th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
LOL and your translator but that is what I understood as well. A misdemeanor is nothing compared to a felony charge. A misdemeanor also has little social stigma as most people either know others who have faced a misdemeanor charge, or have been charged themselves.
I was comparing three articles, word for word and I kept getting the words “hit and run” in my head but it’s leaving the scene of an accident. Still though, Ama, we don’t really know how much bodily harm Ram was able to prove. My understanding is that if it’s bodily harm then ..it’s a felony? I hope to know more this week. Meanwhile JFX got their numbers from somewhere, so…
Any way you shake it, it’s a better situation than it was.
October 18th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
AM
In US, where everything almost is out in the media, you mean that the damage that Ram M may have got, not have been published anywhere?
Even the hospitals are quite?
He must be a very important person, treated with discretion.
Not like Britney Spears or any other women who the media can use as they want.
October 18th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Ah but Ama, they are using Adnan as they want. I’ve been saying that almost as long as I have been here but maybe not in those exact words.
Media has smeared Adnan’s reputation, image and it’s not just the tabloids but something more serious: accepted journalistic media.
The AP’s version on the press release from the district attorney’s office is clever. That’s what I am writing about right now is the LA Times and the AP and how they covered this story.
Haven’t you also noticed how little there has been on the case overall except to pelt Adnan with his alleged crimes? I swear if I had never contacted the AP they would still be saying “Britney got a TRO on …” but eventually they would have been caught or shamed by the lie or made it too obvious as others performed more accurate reporting.
What we got from Eardley and company questioning all the fees and expenses Jamie Spears’ attorneys wanted from the trio of men was our first and only glimpse at Ram’s expenses, or I should say Chameleon’s claims for damage. $1,000?
I imagine if the damages had been more “exciting” then we might have heard about it.
I thought fair reporting was fair reporting but not in Adnan’s case. I can say that here because it’s my opinion.
October 18th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
AM-
I think the difference between a felony hit and run and a misdemeanor leaving the scene of an accident is obviously bodily injury just like the difference between misdemeanor battery and felony battery is one involves serious bodily injury and the other one involves a lesser degree of harm.
On anothern note, I was at Target today and I opened Star Magazine and in it was a story entitled “Brit and Jason reunite” with a picture of Brit and Jason in the front seat of a car.
This so called “relationship” is totally fake. Yes, they are very good friends but nothing more. She can’t date or see anyone her father disapproves but the media will never mention that- same thing with the marriage rumors with no examination as to whether someone under a conservatorship has the legal capacity to get married.
If two years from now we are still taling about Brit being under a conservatorship, it will be an absolute tragedy.
October 18th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
QB. Thank you. I wonder that any of us saw the D.A.’s first press release? I found it an put it in an article I am still fussing over for tomorrow but here ’tis.
http://da.lacounty.gov/mr/022409b.htm
I find it funny meanwhile that not a single reporter has admitted or credited their source as a press release by the D.A. No credibility would have been lost in doing so… would it?
I am thankful Britney has a friend in Jason, you know, someone with whom she can let her hair down and someone without military or security training that we know.
I thought it was brilliant to have what looked like a building employee to walk along side the vehicle the other day. Terrific. What luxury to sweep aside and distance the paparazzi and while I believe JFX was there, I can’t see them being creeps like some of the others.
Tomorrow’s story is just a pebble in the side of a metaphoric vehicle. I know what MT means by seeing the puzzle come to life. That column is portable and there are things there that even MT did not know. Isn’t that right Mr. MT?
This is a great team. TEAM ADNAN.
Ama. I hope that you in particular may find something useful for your puzzle about what I will call selective media coverage. That’s tomorrow.
October 18th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
MT. Please consider this tongue in cheek (Ama, that means not completely serious) but I heard this song much of the day. Idiots elsewhere will make a thing of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQKjYlaoMog
heart ‘k?
October 18th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
MT? There is still wonder in the world you know.
October 18th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Okay, just burned one. This won’t make sense, but here goes…
So Jamie Kennedy and Jennifer Love Desperate are hot in the tabloids right now. Why? Jamie’s allegedly dating Shannon Funk.
I snicker. Then I Google Shannon Funk. And holy sh@t. I realize that Ms. Funk and OK! really did a number on B. Two covers (Shannon as Brit’s bi-sexual lover, and the failed OK! photo shoot. The one where she supposedly gets chicken grease all over expensive dresses, lets London poop everywhere, pees with the washroom door open, etc…But when you look at the outtakes from the shoot, B looks gorgeous and they appear to be nice shots.)
Anyways…Both stories could have helped her to lose custody, right? I mean legally, in the court room? So it made me wonder if blondie worked for somebody other than B when she was her “assistant” for those 3 weeks. Of course, the bad behaviour was going on a lot longer than 3 weeks, but…
Anyways, it made me realize that if Ms. Funk could do that much damage, PR-wise and legal-wise, in 3 weeks, just think how much damage Adnan could have done if he wanted. Yet nothing. Not a bad word. The last I heard of the media refering to him directly, it was when he called in a radio station about her. (Am I imagining that?)
I’ll cut to the chase. He could’ve sold her out HARD. But didn’t.
Good on ya, mate. Still glad to see it.
October 18th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Steel, a lot to respond to and I have a few other things going on but as to Adnan calling the radio station? Somewhere around here I have the Ryan Seacrest tape. You didn’t imagine it.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:45 am
I remember Shannon Funk.
and believe he is one of the good guys.
I remember the interview Adnan did. And he could have sold her out and didn’t. That is why I am Team Adnan
Rolling Stone reviewed “3″ and it gave it 4 stars out of 5. They called it an instant classic.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:15 am
AM About
“Amapola Says:
October 18th, 2009 at 5:39 pm AM
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He must be a very important person, treated with discretion. ”
I meant Ram M
**************
The reason I do not writes much comment here about Adnan is that I do not want to write something who will sound wrong in English.
I do want all the best for Adnan.
And I think you all, speak for Adnans rights better then I do.
*******************************
Steel_
I hope the assistants name, who the gossip writers refer to, will come out in the open.
Thank you for your comment
October 19th, 2009 at 8:27 am
I just woke up and re-read my comments. They made sense. Whew!
I guess I have those “moments” sometimes when I realize how badly some other people have sold her out (and have possibly set her up *just* to sell her out)…and then it makes me appreciate even more how Adnan has NOT done that.
October 19th, 2009 at 8:45 am
Alright, just for something to gossip about, here are the reports about the photo shoot:
http://justjared.buzznet.com/2007/07/23/britney-spears-ok-magazine-2/
And here are the outtakes:
http://www.theinsider.com/photos/452802_Controversial_Britney_Spears_OK_Magazine_Photoshoot
Am I missing something here? Maybe they didn’t get the shots they wanted. And maybe there are some undergarment issues going on here. But otherwise, we have no way of knowing whether all those stories about B’s “crazy” behaviour on set were even true. And then Lynn comes in and “saves the day” by brokering a deal with OK!…But in return for landing a lucrative cover for Jamie-Lynn to announce the birth of her baby.
It’s just that…In retrospect, this all looks pretty…funky.
But I guess we already knew that.
October 19th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Good morning to all.
Okay. So, um, I was at the BH threads and an Exhale member asked this question. “Why did Britney fire Johnny Wright?”
I kinda had to think about that one. So I kept reading what others were saying in the comments section and they seem to think that Wright’s firing had to be related to Britney and Justin’s break-up. Wright had managed them both during the golden years of both of (well, at least B’s) career. She and JT split and she dumped Wright. That’s what they were saying at the thread.
One person called Wright “shady”. I think the lawsuit may have had something to do with them thinking that as well as the interview he did with OK magazine before the tour started. Larry, to them, has her best intersts at heart or somethin’ or another. While Wright sued her and talked about her to the press. But I don’t think that Britney and Justin’s split had anything to do with why she fired Wright and kept Larry.
I’m just bringing this old story up because it seems to me that there’s some misinformation out there about these behind-the-scenes business
dealings. Someone on the thread also mistook Wright for being Lou Pearlman who managed N’SYNC and the Backstreet Boys. N’SYNC sued Pearlman and I believe they won. Pearlman is now behind bars for 25 years for a “financial scheme that cheated investors out of more than $300 million dollars.”
I don’t think that Wright is shady at all. Sometimes I wish that Britney would have kept him and not Larry. But that’s just my opinion.
I saw a cute, old photo of Britney when she was briefly in the girl group “Innosense” in ‘97 before leaving to go solo. Pearlman was that groups manager too along with Justin’s mom.
I hope Britney didn’t lose any money because of him. But I don’t think she was paid much while in that group and she left early on.
Have y’all seen the pics of Britney & Co in Mexico? I read that she’s at a resort in a place called Zihuatanejo. She looks good. Not necessarily happy, but good. Maybe she’s not feeling being snapped while on vacation with the kids and her usual crew. I think there is a new nanny for the kids there as well. No more Lulu?
TTYL.
October 19th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
I got the impression that it was a fall-out between Wright and Larry. Larry worked for Wright at WEG. Larry left and started his own companies.
Is this correct? I’m going by memory here.
October 19th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
I shouldn’t say “fall out.” I don’t know that. But it appeared that Larry worked for WEG, in the same way that Adam now works for TEAM.
What year did Larry start ReignDeer? What year did he launch Sunset Tan, etc? I remember looking it up once, and it was interesting watching it all develop.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Brit did lose money in an investment scheme in 2003:
http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/story/britney-loses-investment-cash
A Googling of “Britney” and “Lancer Partners” will bring up lots of articles. Also watch for connections between Bryan and Rudolph & Beer, LLP.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
New story up. So glad I called a certain organization to get someone’s current job title. I got to admit I shook a little on hearing it.
http://wp.me/px8ZX-fZ
October 19th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Sorry I just jumped in. I hadn’t had time to catch up.
Feedback on the story is appreciated. Now back to the program.
October 19th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
p.s. I can only see your IP address if you comment to the blog.
October 19th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Good news Team Adnan.
By serendipity I bumped into the college’s Dir. of Justice Studies. He said state to state that when the D.A. makes plea bargain, oh say of 45 days, that that can not change on the day of sentencing if both sides keep up their end of the bargain.
He also says since the plea has been entered that details should be on public record.
He said and another professor, who both have experience in law enforcement and more, also said that the D.A. would have put the maximum sentence in the press release because they deter someone in the public for doing the same crime. I humbly think it’s more about politics but there you have it.
October 19th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
more corrections than I would like to make but the bigger one: because they want to deter others from doing the crime by showing the maximum penalty.
October 19th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
I did not know that Wasser and Kaplan was involved in Britney/Kevin already in 2004!
http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0924042_britney_spears_3.gif
I suppose you all know it, but for me it was a suprise.
October 19th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Find the documents on this site
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0924042_britney_spears_1.html
October 19th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Ama, I hadn’t seen that before.
October 19th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Steel @8:45 a.m. Interesting theory. I thought they were attractive pics by the way. Maybe they had more dresses or other pics that they also wanted?
Also at 1:01 — X had a thread on that somewhere involving Bryan, Britney etc. and their investments.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
>>>He said state to state that when the D.A. makes plea bargain, oh say of 45 days, that that can not change on the day of sentencing if both sides keep up their end of the bargain.
QB,
Can’t the judge not agree if he doesn’t like the parties deal for whatever reason. I always thought the judge had the final say.
October 19th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
MH, while waiting, here is the D.A.’s number for media relations. I don’t know why a public citizen couldn’t try for info.
213-974-3528
Meanwhile, it’s not a bad day to hear from Adnan as takes the invitation from Ryan Seacrest .. it’s not the judge I worry about, but people placing a bounty on his head before he is sentenced.
http://www.accesshollywood.com/adnan-ghalib/audio-adnan-clears-the-air-about-the-britney-spears-sex-tape_video_722041
It’s also a reminder of why he does what he does and was that “the” ring he was wearing the other day?
October 19th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
i wasn’t so much asking with regard to his case…but all cases. i’m not worried about the judge not accepting the deal (if it’s even up to him, which i think it is). but i don’t care enough about the answer to call anyone for clarification. just thought QB might know.
this whole thing has gone waaaaay too far already…i would hate to see anyone get hurt (again).
hope he can do his time in peace… yeah right, nothing is peaceful in jail. but i hope it passes quickly and uneventfully. then the civil case continues and hopefully that will be the end of all this shit.
October 19th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Its weird watching the story arc. I keep wondering, “Have we reached the climax yet?” and “When is this going to end?”
I do have to say, I’ve never stressed this much over someone I’ve never met and probably never will. The whole thing…posting here, watching the story unfold, etc. is strange. Just plain strange.
October 19th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
I agree Steel then there is the way some of us here figure into the story, lights in the darkness and all that mystery.
Just bizarre.
October 19th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Wait, I lied. I really stressed out watching coverage of events like Hurricane Katrina.
But you know what I mean.
October 19th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
MH-
The judge always has to sign off on the plea deal but given that the DA and defense counsel are on the same page, the judge will okay it unless the judge felt it was way too generous to the defendant.
Amapola/AM-
I remember reading about the docs that Brit and Kevin signed just before their wedding acknowledging that the wedding ceremony had no legal significance because the prenuptial agreement had not been finalized. Getting that prenup was the best decision Brit ever made otherwise she would have had to given Kevin something close 10 million dollars.
The reason why Kevin was able to respond to Brit’s divorce petition the day after it was filed was because he already a attorney/client relationship with Kaplan.
October 19th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
I have a question. What is the importance on getting accurate news on Adnan right now? (or during, throughout, now the future?)
Or. What is the impact of misinformation on Adnan especially info that makes him look like a pill?
I’ve got my theories and they go in different directions.
QB. As always of late, thanks for the information. Has it dawned on anyone that a verdict has been reached in the case? That’s how I understood it from the Dir of the Justice Program and his association. There’s a verdict in the case so now all is public information.
They both said a person might be stonewalled from it but a visit to the courthouse should secure it?
October 20th, 2009 at 12:13 am
MH, I know you are concerned but Judge Speer was present during the proceeding when a verdict was reached.
‘Adnan Ghalib, 37, entered the plea before Van Nuys Superior Court Judge Susan Speer.’ DA press release.
Just another way to look at it. QB seems to know what she is talking about as well IMHO.
I did what I could to get the truth out there today. If you are worried about what happens inside jail consider what his inmates may know about him and from where they got their info.
Media blast this month folks? I am seeing some fair activity on the blog on the last article, but not enough to make a difference. ‘ya think?
How Adnan may be perceived in jail or on the street may be something some of you can affect.
Grassroots people. Grassroots.
October 20th, 2009 at 12:54 am
Maybe she is easy on the eyes, MT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGogILz9VhU&feature=related
ok, there aren’t any photographs just lyrics. You did that once right? I know you know where to censor.
luvs ya big up
October 20th, 2009 at 3:16 am
Thanks for your response QB.
October 20th, 2009 at 3:26 am
cute…
http://www.britneysbabies.com/jaydengallery/displayimage.php?album=300&pos=3
October 20th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Interesting.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/10/tmzs-harvey-levin-use-of-his-phone-records-in-mel-gibson-case-disgusting.html
October 20th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
One of the more interesting comments to the story:
‘What disgusts me is this guy actually representing himself as a member of the legitimate press. Celebrities who are hounded by this guy and his hordes of goons should sue TMZ into the ground.’
October 20th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
It is outrageous that TMZ/Harvey Levin think he is a legitimate member of the press. Newsflash Harvey you run a sleazy tabloid website. You pay members of law enforcement and other individuals for stories, no real newspaper would do that because it is unethical.
I still do not understand how the Sheriff’s Dept. violated federal or state law if they obtained a search warrant signed by a judge. If the warrant was defective, the judge is the one who screwed up.
If you did not know, I really hate TMZ, I’m waiting for the day when a celebrity hits them a with a major law for defamation or invasion of privacy.
October 20th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
I agree. It is not only unethical but a journalist can not trust the integrity of data that was paid for.
I believe Harvey lives in a world of favor exchanges not just money.
October 20th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
AM-
It is people like TMZ/Harvey Levin that give real journalist a bad name. It is funny that at one time, Harvey was a real news reporter for a tv station in Los Angeles-CBS, I guess he realized he could make way more money doing the tv/internet equivalent of the National Enquirer.
What is really funny right now is that you have tv stations and outlets like CNN treating TMZ as is if they are a credible news source like “According to TMZ….”. It is just crazy, no one would say ” according to the National Enquirer …”
What really gets to me is that they run sensational stories with no regards as to who gets hurt like Alec Baldwin’s daughter-she is a child and Harvey violated her privacy.
October 20th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Does anyone find it curious that the Sheriff’s department is even looking into this?
October 20th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
From the AP, author not cited:
‘Records obtained by investigators showed several calls between Levin and the home of Deputy James Mee, who arrested Gibson.
Prosecutors declined to charge Mee, citing a lack of proof he leaked details about the case.’
http://cbs2.com/entertainment/TMZ.harvey.levin.2.1258700.html
October 20th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
More details of Deputy Mee and the investigation.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-gibson8-2009oct08,0,1647539.story?track=rss
October 20th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
I am a little slow on the uptake this morning but I wonder that the leaked Rihanna picture spurred more investigations as to leaks throughout.
October 20th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
‘Bank records showed no unusual payments to Mee, his wife or daughter, the memo said. But the phone records showed eight more calls from Levin to Mee’s home in the two days after the arrest, including a 10-minute call the next day and a 25-minute call the day after.’
How is it that we got details on goings on within Britney’s home the night of the first 5150? Just asking. I seem to remember something about being hot.
October 20th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
AM, You’re on a roll.
October 20th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
LOL, Steels.
On the side I was just thinking that Britney probably won’t get the kids for Australia if she has them now in Mexico for a week.
Yes, I remember something about Britney telling an officer she was hot. A few tabloids made more of it? Britney tells officer she’s hot?
October 20th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
New entry in Mendoza case that went to court today?
12/03/2009 at 08:31 am in department 30 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
OSC RE Dismissal ( AFTER SETTLEMENT;)
Should have more information tomorrow as though we are following this dramatic case with every step. Still it is news and a connection to TMZ.
October 20th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Also. 10/19/2009 at 03:00 pm in Department 30, John A. Kronstadt, Presiding
Court Order (NOT. OF SETTLEMENT FILED 10-19-09) – Court makes order
They moved it up a day. ok.
October 20th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Oh. I probably said that wrong. So the case settled yesterday? QB. I don’t have any docs from this, just the case summary for now, but the case will be dismissed on 12/3?
I’m betting B had insurance and the convervatorship just paid Mendoza’s medical expenses, time off etc. I bet they were able to get the punitive damages dismissed. That’s the effort in Adnan’s case right now too.
October 20th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Sorry to stagger this out but this was next on the table for November in the Mendoza case.
11/3/09 Ricardo Mendoza v. Britney Spears. 8:30 a.m. hearing on rebuttal (demurrer) filed by Spears’ attorneys and motion to strike Mendoza’s claim for punitive damages. Case No. BC414703
October 20th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
This must be Wyle’s correction from deceased to living.
10/15/2009 Notice – Probate (NOTICE OF ERRATA RE: NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION…ETC. )
Filed by Attorney for Petitioner
October 20th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/20/britney-spears-car-settlement-foot/
October 20th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Nice attribution for the $200K figure. I don’t see that number in the documents. It could have been in the documents filed today though.
It’s more than the figure necessary to secure a jury trial. It’s not in the case management or minute orders that I know.
Oh let’s fight back TMZ. I’ll have the docs tomorrow or whenever and so can anyone on this board with a few bucks and minutes of time.
You just had to make her look guilty and nutty didn’t you. Where is Ama on a day like this? Tell them, Ama. Screw you. enh you are not here, so I will do it then: screw you TMZ and your editorial leadership.
I think you might have said it better Ama in your lexicon as you sometimes put it.
October 20th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
QB. It’s also not in the complaint etc. Punitive damages huh?
October 20th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Oh that’s right. Sorry.
‘A paparazzo has put a price on his foot — $221,533.59, and he wants Britney Spears to foot the bill.
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/24/papper-wants-big-bucks-from-britney/#ixzz0UWWjKtE4‘
Guess punitive damages sailed right out the door as ridiculous.
October 20th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
um. Did a little marketing today. It’s interesting watching new invites. Kevin Federline has sole custody remains a popular favorite but no more popular than No more hit, run charges against Adnan.
The most popular to date is “I make all business decisions.” Jamie Spears.
October 20th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Harvey has a leg to stand on. I hope he wins on this one.
The bigger deal is how the police tried to cover up the truth…but that’s old news.
PS…TMZ is my homepage. lol
October 20th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Yeah, I don’t find it curious at all that Harvey would make phone calls. That’s his job. I give him credit for being a good snoop.
I DO find it curious that a Deputy would actually take the call (Gibson case)…or leak photos (Rihanna case)…or do any of the other nasty things that law enforcement officials shouldn’t be doing.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Harvey masquerading as an “ethical” journalist is hilarious.
Appealing to the journalist community for support is what it is. Based on comments to the article there’s a discernible iciness and then there are the “haters” who are enjoying with glee.
Those supporting him are outnumbered on the LA Times site.
Call it comeuppance. Call it what you will.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
I should clarify…
I don’t think Harvey has the most ethical job in the world, but I feel like it’s the law enforcement officials who are stepping over the line here. Same goes for any other story (e.g. Adnan’s). It’s the people feeding Harvey the story that are the doing the bad deeds. Harvey’s just doing his job by running with it. IMO.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
AM, I agree, the “ethical” journalist tactic is pretty funny. I haven’t seen a single supportive comment towards him in any of the stories I’ve read.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
I don’t have a problem with the police in this instance. No one from their department should be talking to the press, tabloid or otherwise. That’s LAPD policy according to Officer Jason Lee.
This is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Harvey and his favor community. Blair Berk anyone? oops–ANTI-SLAPP
October 20th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
It’s also the tip of the iceberg in solving things within the LAPD. Harvey is no jo-schmo…he’s connected. So ten calls total between the deputy and Harvey?
October 20th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Favour community.
A good way of putting it. The thing is, these people *know* who they’re talking to when they pick up the phone. They *know* what his job is. So why are they talking to him to begin with?
I guess because they’re getting something out of it to. And that something is probably different in each separate case. Not necessarily money.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Well so they are both at fault? Or maybe the police department as a whole is at fault. Officer Lee was clear about policy, so I asked him what Officer So and So was doing talking to the media (about Adnan to People magazine I believe). Lee was an officer to do credit to the department in my humble opinion and I feel sorry he is no longer serving the public as he was.
Whatever. When Harvey talks about doing time over spilling his source, maybe I will give him some credit. He does know that’s part of being a “journalist” right?
Lord can you see Adnan and Harvey in jail at the same time? ha ha
So yeh, Harvey, remember there is no T-M or Z in Adnan’s vocabulary, unlike some people and he’s better looking and more credible than you.
It’s just stress but picturing Adnan going, “Hey, Harvey…psyche just psyching you out padre.”
LOL. Good luck to you, MH, in wishing Harvey to win this one.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
I wouldn’t think the Dept. as a whole is at fault. Just individual officers. Individual lawyers. People who have a vested interest in talking to him.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
AM-
Since the pap case has settled, how many pending lawsuits does Brit have right now- I think Lutfi is the only outstanding one.
Going back to TMZ, the LAPD has identified the two officers it believes leaked the Rihanna photo to Harvey. I know the police obviously acted inappropriately but I do not want let Harvey off the hook. I do not care how much money is at stake, at some point you have to draw line and say I’m not going to do this.
I’ m not going to leak the Alec Baldwin tape because it was addressed to a minor child; I’m not going to leak the Rihanna photo as it is major violation of her privacy. It is absolutely disgusting what Harvey has managed to get away with it.
AM- If Brit does not take the boys on the Austrailian leg of her tour, how long will she be away from them- 1 week? 2 weeks?
October 20th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Her web site says Nov. 6 to the 29th. It’s two days travel I think?
The period is something Kaplan described as no big deal or not that long?
Kerry Vine still has a suit against her. Any other suits haven’t made the news. One would have to search county to county, state to state.
I agree about both Alec Baldwin tapes. Remember the second one where his daughter hears from 911 and she says everything is ok?
Harvey can’t have his cake and eat it too and absolutely it was individuals and not a department at the LAPD. Maybe I am mistaken but I believe in officer Jason Lee. It’s hard for me to imagine him of wrong doing. How odd he is in Dennis’s book but it seems a word for word quote from a report that someone got… hmm…he didn’t say much. He did his job.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Just want to say controversy is good and it’s been awhile.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
QB, You make a good point with the minor child and abused woman examples. We (or I) tend to look at the celebrity aspect of it first, but underneath the celebrity there are real people being hurt.
Curiously, I didn’t have as strong reaction to the Baldwin and Rihanna cases as I did to all the blogs publishing pics of Brit the night she shaved her head. For some reason, the coverage of that night really threw me over the edge. I actually avoided some Web sites for up to a year after that because I was so appalled by it.
But then again…As long as Harvey (and the rest of the blogs) gets the hits, they’re going to keep crossing those lines.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
Question…
Why IS Harvey getting away with this stuff (e.g. publishing the Rihanna pics)? I don’t think he’d be able to do it in Canada. We have strict laws about that kind of stuff. Does it have to do with the law in California? Or just the fact that nobody has called him on it?
October 20th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
Correction: How odd it is that I talked to him and he is in Steve’s book. Very cool but .. to Officer Lee this celebrity stuff is nothing. I thought he was really cool and I respected him. I felt bad about others being on the force but upholding things quite as he was.
I can’t describe him. Brusque? Pointed? Business to the point? Frank? Someone who was going to see right through your shit? (I had none to offer lol). He was a man is what I can tell you.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Steels, not sure if you were just asking QB for her opinion on that one for forgive it I dollop in?
Nobody gave a shyt before Rihanna. Why was she different? Why did it call our particular attention to Harvey?
Young, beautiful yeh we’ve seen that. We’re inured. But maybe a number of us in the public know the vulnerability of youth, violence, intimacy and intrusion. Not one of us suspected a brand or anything from her.
I don’t know why it was different but it was. There was something oily about it. Even for Chris Brown a really young star, handsome and incredible but so young and yet so unknown worldwide anyway he had not attracted hatred that I know.
Why did Harvey get away with it? Who is to say he has? I premised earlier that maybe that’s why the Gibson case is being looked into but I suspect that’s loaded beyond what we are looking at here.
Is the tide going against, Harvey? Did he play or show too many of his cards in Michael Jackson’s demise? That coverage, reporting that Michael had died before what’s dated on the death certificate… caused alot of scrutiny. I think most of us love Michael. It was an odd violation of his death and the order of things beyond the world of journalism. Far beyond.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:10 am
I have really enjoyed this discussion regarding TMZ/Harvey Levin.
I read Alec Baldwin’s book while I was at Borders, he stated that it is against the law to publish a conversation involving a minor child without the parent’s consent and he could have sued but did not because it probably cost millions and he already spent so much money battling Kim Basinger in court.
Same thing with Rihanna- she definitely would have had a claim for invasion of privacy because this picture should have never been made public but it would cost Rihanna personally and financially to file suit.
America’s law regarding libel and defamation of public figures favors the media which is why you see a lot of celebrities taking on the tabloids in England because the laws are more favorable to celebrities.
AM-3 weeks is a long time to go without seeing your children, I know Kevin has no problem going weeks without seeking his oldest two children. I think it would be best if the children could join her after a week or two then fly back to the US together, that would be fair, I think.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:15 am
I too am enjoying.
Brown also had an attorney who wanted to know about those photos. Brown had money. Weren’t they still talking about those photos the last day of the hearing? Maybe that too was different: the tangible effect on the judge.
3 weeks or 4 IS a long time. I wonder that’s that how I finally mustered it up to contact Kaplan again. I didn’t get to ask anything about it though. Oh it was that and the custody ding/dang thing again.
I think it would agony to think/worry about my children so long. Kaplan pissed me off with it’s not so long. Anyone have his exact quote? I don’t care to look it up but I remember thinking, wow, pig.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:33 am
AM-
Kaplan was kind of non-chalant about the whole thing but I thought the separation would be 1 week or two weeks at most but not over 3 weeks. 3+ weeks is too long; hopefully they can work something out where Brit and the kids can meet up half way through the tour or the kids leave without her a week and a half before it ends.
Sometimes I think that men do not have the same emotional attachment to children and Kaplan is a man. When I was younger, my dad move to the east coast for a few years to pursue his career- my mom would have never done that.
Going back to Brown, the judge acknowledged that the photo leak was illegal but the damage had already been done; the judge was not going to drop the charges due to government misconduct and he had been planning on pleading guilty anyway so that was that.
One day, Harvey/TMZ is going to do something so egregious,it will cost them big time.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:56 am
I think the point of protecting sources and the laws around that have been misssed. That’s what I was talking about when I said he has a leg to stand on.
Yeah, the Baldwin tape really sucked. Poor kid.
October 21st, 2009 at 9:18 am
I came across this in last weeks People magazine.
It talks about the rumors from a couple of weeks ago or so of Britney wanting to take Kevin to court for full custody of SP & JJ before Christmas. Well, People mag. says it isn’t so.
A source (who are these sources, btw?)close to the singer tells People: “Despite their differences she (Britney)wants to make sure they are both a part of the kids’ lives.”
The fact that B’s under a c-ship wasn’t mentioned.
That fact gets overlooked so much. It’s amazing.
I can’t wait to read the stories this week about the Mexican vacation that B is on with Jason, her dad, sons, nanny, and bodyguard.
Oh, btw. Excellent discussion last night.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:16 am
Fantasy-
I did not need People magazine to tell me that story from a UK tabloid was false regarding custody was false.
Also, I did not know that Jamie was on the Mexican vacation so I guess he really is keeping a close eye on her; she really does not get any alone time without her dad, nanny and assorted bodyguards hovering around her.
I bet she wishes she could just get up and go somewhere without the whole entourage.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:15 am
QB-
You’re right that those rumors appeared in the tabs and I guess People mag decided to just call bulls**t on all of those reports. That mag is still considered to be more factual than others.
That may not always be the case but the mag does get more respect than the others these days.
The first photos that I saw of Britney in Mexico
( a resort in Zihuatanejo) was over the weekend.
Actually the first photo,which was later cropped, was of her, Jason, and Edan. Also, it does look as if Lulu has been replaced. Jamie and the kids spent some time together on the beach.
I can’t speak for Britney however if I were her I would feel smothered by having people around me so much. Even if it’s just one person like Jason I’d be so fed up with it all. Jamie-Lynn is really lucky to not have to endure what her sister does on a daily basis. But compared to some, Britney still has a reasonably good life.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:28 am
QB-
I’m curious to know if you have any thoughts on Lindsay Lohan and her dad Michael. He’s thrown out the words conservatorship and “kidnapping.”
Do you think we could soon have another young starlet on lockdown via c-ship, rehab, etc.?
I know that Lindsay does need help but I don’t feel that Michael is helping her at all by talking to the press. What can her family do for her? Or could it be Lindsay who is the one who needs to make the choice to get help? If she refuses help could her dad (of all people) really obtain a c-ship over her? Considering his past he should be the LAST person in charge of anyone but himself. But Jamie Spears’s past is also not clean and he was named conservator of B and her estate. I’m just wondering if you are following the Lindsay story and what your thoughts are.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:30 am
Fantasy-
So Lulu has been replaced? I guess we’ll see if it is temp. or permanent. I know Amapola will be happy.
To be honest, Brit really does not need a nanny anyway. However, I’m sure the new nanny has already been briefed by Jamie to report and inform him of Brit’s activities whe he is not there.
Like I said before, the nanny’s job is not just to watch the children but to watch Brit as well-she works for Jamie and not Brit.
I wonder what plans Jamie and Co. have for Brit. Will she do another guest spot on TV or maybe another movie, I think the last movie she did was “Crossroads”.
I just read an article about Justin Timberlake and how he has no intention on putting out a new album anytime soon and has instead focused on making movies and producing music for other artists like Madonna. I wonder if Brit has any interest in working with other artists either as a writer or producer. Lady Gaga just wrote a song for Adam Lambert.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:41 am
Fantasy-
I posted before reading your most recent comments. Michael Lohan is a joke. He talks a good game but he is no Jamie Spears. First, Michael Lohan is a convicted felon. I know Jamie had a drinking problem but he has been sober for many years.
Second, Michael talks to the press too much which is something you do not see Jamie doing. The public did not find about the Brit conservatorship until it was filed in court so Jamie had the element of surprise. Since Lindsay already knows about Michael’s intentions she can preempt him by getting a restraining order.
Third, getting a conservatorship is not as easy as people think: First, as far as I know Lindsay does not have any mental health issues like Brit- no involuntary commitments to the psych ward. Second, it appears that all Lindsay has is a drug and alcohol problem which by itself does not warrant a conservatorship unless she was lying unconscious and passed on the street; totally incapacitated.
Senator Ted Kennedy’s children went to court to get the equivalent of a conservatorship for their mother who had battled alcoholism for years. She had multipe DUIs and one day was found unconscious on the street.
A conservatorship was not granted because Joan Kennedy agreed to allow her finances to be overseen by a trustee and to have a court appointed person check in on her periodically but this person is not a “conservator”.
Brit’s case was very unique so I do not think other people can use her situation as a basis for getting a conservatorship over their celebrity child unless the facts were absolutely the same.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:51 am
Thanks QB. I love your honesty and intellect.
Here’s a pic of the new lady who watches the boys.
http://www.killthelights.org/displayimage.php?album=7900&pos=18
or
http://www.killthelights.org/
Has anyone seen the new US Weekly cover story?
Mom: Britney’s New Beau Would Make A “Dream” Husband
Like, who didn’t see that coming?
It’ll be in a grocery store near you on Thursday!
October 21st, 2009 at 12:29 pm
http://x17online.com/celebrities/britney_spears/britneys_mom_thinks_jason_is_the_one-10212009.php
October 21st, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Well, Jason sure looks a little more toned than he used to. I wonder if he’s getting paid extra for that? LOL
October 21st, 2009 at 12:34 pm
“On a sexy trip to Mexico…”
Wha? Weren’t those pics JUST taken on Sunday? And they already have the cover laid out?
Geez…
October 21st, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Why is it when I think of Harvey’s sources I think of malicious gossip and tattling like within bullies’ club?
And when I think of my own sources of that of other legitimate journalists I think of the source’s courage. They deserve protection. They want to speak out but can’t openly do so out of fear.
Harvey doesn’t get to look noble in this situation. It’s about money. If he willingly spilled his sources the money would dry up. If the information was properly subpoenaed (probable cause)it’s out of his hands. Sure future sources might think twice but Harvey can argue about the likelihood of being subpoenaed as rare.
Sorry MH, but he’s in the tabloid world and I can not think offhand of any journalist who would rise to defend and protect him. We would have heard about it already from various organizations. Harvey would have broadcast their support and outcry?
Ah Mexico. This is a good one if you can translate: http://ecodiario.eleconomista.es/sociedad/noticias/1633195/10/09/Britney-Spears-y-su-manager-retoman-su-noviazgo.html
An outtake: ‘However, it appears that the relationship be quite serious. Jason has made clear he prefers to go slow and go with other people, not to an exclusive relationship. A ella no le gusta demasiado esta situación, pero no puede rechazarla; así que intentará sacar todo lo que pueda de ello. She does not like this situation, but can not reject it, so try to take everything you can about it.’
October 21st, 2009 at 12:54 pm
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/confidential/britney-spears-to-start-tour-without-her-sons/story-e6frf96x-1225789577204
October 21st, 2009 at 12:55 pm
take the emotion out of it and what’s left…the law.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:57 pm
What law MH?
October 21st, 2009 at 1:04 pm
you know what law.
protecting sources.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Wow. So Kevin and the boys (Victoria too?) won’t join Britney in Australia until the tour is at the half way mark. Bummer.
Am-
In your Spanish language link toward the end it says that Preston has taken to Jason so much that he calls him papa or dad. But Jayden cries and doesn’t appear to have taken to him like SP has.
That’s the best that I could translate it.
I swear that I read that same story somewhere else not that long ago but it was in English.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:18 pm
There is no such law, MH. Protecting sources is voluntary which is why journalists can be help in contempt of court?
Harvey is arguing his right to privacy. Yes?
October 21st, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Fantasy. My translator agrees with your translation.
http://translate.google.com/translate_t#
I thought that last paragraph was creative.
I don’t think Preston likes having his hand held. He looks like he wants is pulling no matter whose hand he is holding.
Yes and I see my little correction to be had above, “held in contempt.”
October 21st, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Here’s another angle to protecting a source.
http://www.journalismethics.ca/feature_articles/protecting_sources.html
Maybe we are both right, MH. Shield laws?
‘So-called “shield laws” were enacted in many states to protect journalists from legal pressure to reveal their sources. Shield laws recognized the important protection required by reporters. Each state’s protections vary, with some states protecting only the “source,” while others afford protection to both the source and the unpublished information.
In Canada, a few provinces have toyed with the idea of enacting their own shield laws, for example, Quebec, but no such law has been proposed to date. A few provinces, notably British Columbia and Saskatchewan, have largely rejected the idea that media enjoyed any special privileges.’
and
‘According to Pinguelo, in states where the reporter’s privilege is recognized, various competing interests will be balanced when a court considers a reporter’s refusal to reveal the identity of his or her source. To tip the scale in favor of disclosure, this balance often includes a showing that: (1) the information is unavailable and cannot be obtained elsewhere; (2) the information is not cumulative and is “of central importance” to the case; and (3) the need for the information weighs in favor of disclosure.
This shows the reporter’s privilege may be overcome if the identity of a confidential source goes to “the heart of the matter” and the plaintiff has exhausted all reasonable alternative avenues to learn the identity of the leakers.’
October 21st, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Hmm. Apparently there’s no law in Canada protecting journalist’s sources:
http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/346911
“…what’s needed is a “shield law” protecting journalists’ sources.
“Without one, we’re going to keep having to go case-by-case and fighting on the merits…”
“If you look to the U.S., they’re certainly moving toward the direction of establishing shield laws… Thirty-three jurisdictions in the U.S. have it already…”
October 21st, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Harvey has one supporter here but it remains an attorney not a journalist who defends him. The attorney represents the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press.
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local-beat/Sheriffs-Get-TMZ-Exclusive-Harvey-Levins-Phone-Records-65039242.html
October 21st, 2009 at 1:50 pm
LOL. I guess great minds think alike, AM.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Geez, I must type really slow. Big long posts appear in the same time it takes me to write a tiny little one.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:53 pm
A little more support for Levin from a VP at Fox.
http://www.laobserved.com/archive/2009/10/harvey_levin_to_sheriff_f.php
October 21st, 2009 at 1:59 pm
It certainly is an interesting topic and a refreshing break in what was becoming stagnant at times to me.
Here is a funny comment coming from Levin as none of us were aware of coverage on Adnan, Britney, custody, conservatorship and so on.
‘And while it’s an operation that has scooped the competition by being first to report Mel Gibson’s run-ins with the Los Angeles police, Heath Ledger’s death and John Travolta’s son’s death among other Hollywood headlines, Levin maintains that he and his staff are not in the business of gotcha journalism. TMZ, says Levin, has a mission to give viewers the unvarnished truth about Hollywood — and “have fun” doing it.’
Oh and Levin has a deal with Fox? Have I been hiding under a rock?
http://www.mediabistro.com/articles/cache/a10577.asp
October 21st, 2009 at 2:01 pm
LOL, Steel and others. How many disciplines have we all learned more about in following the saga?
Accounting, law, journalism, insurance, photography/paparazzi,…
October 21st, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Is it me or has the focus continued on making K-Fed look bad?
“After a terrible marriage to Kevin Federline and rocky flings with JR Rotem, Isaac Cohen, Howie Day and Adnan Ghalib, Britney Spears may have found The One.”
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2009/10/how-love-with-jason-trawick-saved-britney-spears/
It used to be Trawick, love, and Adnan dating her during the meltdown implying that he had a hand in it.
What’s the current game?
October 21st, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Just yestereday, I was just saying how I felt it would be fair if the boys joined Brit mid-way through the Austrailia leg so if the Austrailian story is to be believed, that is exactly what will happen. Brit spends one week the boys this month to make up for the week or two she won’t be seeing them in Nov.
Going back to TMZ/Harvey Levin, what he is doing is nothing new or innovative. He might be doing in a slicker or hi-tech fashion, but the National Enquirer has been exposing celebrities and embarassing them for over 20 years. Levin, you are a scum bag, know it and own it; do not make yourself out to be anything more that what you really are.
I understand reporters do need shield laws to protect their sources but I also feel that need or right to protect sources must sometimes yield to a more important interest which is protecting the integrity of the criminal justice system.
When a police officer or deputy sells information to a tabloid, that damages the credibility of all law enforcement officers in the eyes of the public, judges etc. We hold police to higher standard and when they screw up, they have to be held accountable.
October 21st, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Steel_Magnolia Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
Question…
Why IS Harvey getting away with this stuff (e.g. publishing the Rihanna pics)? I don’t think he’d be able to do it in Canada. We have strict laws about that kind of stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Just thought I should mention that what I meant here was “publishing the name of a victim of a crime.” We also can’t publish the name (or the name of the family, etc.) of a person who falls under the Young Offenders Act (which I think may be under 18).
October 21st, 2009 at 2:37 pm
P.S. I guess Alec Baldwin’s daughter wasn’t the victim of a crime, per se. But what I’m getting at is that Harvey is a lawyer…He should know what the law is, and whether he’s breaking it or not. So I’m guessing that the law in California is different than it is here. ‘Cause I can’t see a journalist (or a tabloid…if there was such a thing as a Canadian tabloid. lol) getting away with it here.
October 21st, 2009 at 2:49 pm
QB. I thought this was a fascinating statement in context to what you just wrote.
‘This shows the reporter’s privilege may be overcome if the identity of a confidential source goes to “the heart of the matter” and the plaintiff has exhausted all reasonable alternative avenues to learn the identity of the leakers.’’
Thanks for telling Harvey what I really think. You did it again, QB. You articulated what has been on my mind.
October 21st, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Ah. My favorite man.
‘The initial news of Jackson’s death broke on TMZ.com at 5:20 p.m. (1920 GMT) The Los Angeles Times and then The Associated Press confirmed the death just before 6:30 p.m. EDT (2030 GMT), and networks then led their broadcasts with the news.
“TMZ is an AP customer and a good customer, but that report did not meet our standards for putting something on the AP wire,” the news organisation’s vice president and managing editor for entertainment news, Lou Ferrara, said Friday.
TMZ turned out to be right…’
The New Zealand Herald, June 27, 2009 Saturday
Jackson death Twittered, texted and Facebooked
just saying… wait what? I’ll just put it up on the corkboard.
October 21st, 2009 at 3:13 pm
I don’t know why this interests me. It shouldn’t but it stuck out.
“”It was Smith’s death that served as a “wake-up call” to be prepared to report immediately on any high-profile person with a public history of troubled behaviour, said Lou Ferrara, AP’s managing editor for sports, entertainment and multimedia.
“I don’t think anyone particularly likes this part of the business, but it’s something you need to do,” said Ferrara, one of the editors who asked for the Spears obituary.”"
Hobart Mercury (Australia), January 23, 2008
Dying for publicity.
This was before he was made VP I take it.
I got to get back to work and stop screwing around on this stuff.
October 21st, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Just what is JM getting at here?
http://www.breatheheavy.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1256151549&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&
“Time to find your own men, honey!”
LOL
October 21st, 2009 at 3:47 pm
“Queen B Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 11:30 am Fantasy-
So Lulu has been replaced? I guess we’ll see if it is temp. or permanent. I know Amapola will be happy.
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Yes I am. For Prestons sake. He would never had a chance to get close to his own mom if Lulu stayed.
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AM
About Justin T.
He been a victim of a fraud. But he must have more money left. Strangely all clever and sane people who have been victims of frauds. Only Britney get robbed of her money, her “helpers” take a huge part of her wealth, her former husband and his longtime partner/ lawyer had long time to prepare the scam against her.
Her family put a c-chip on her, and she have to work more then most people for to pay them!
””””””””’
And how quite they all are about the situation… The very sane people.
Yesterday I read that in Madoff case they will go after all kinds of people, what we before have seen as victims, to get some money back to pay the real innocent people.
Because they have discover that people who have get much money in the Madoff affairs, whitout give in a lot of money, all perfectly well had knowed that it was a pyramid game. Not legel to play.
Steel_
“Jane Do” is still in my mind.
And I have try to look of wich media this twin girls no longer want to speak to.
Becuase one of them, or both (?) for sure know who she, Jane doe, was/are.
October 21st, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Forget the fraud and the link
http://www.pinoyhype.com/2009/10/marc-dreier-400-million-fraud-investors.html
Monday, October 5, 2009
“Marc Dreier, $400 MILLION Fraud Investors
..
…
Over 200 creditors have filed more than $450 million in claims against Dreier. ‘
”
There are more than 800 pages of clients that have been filed in a New York court including some famous names. These names include Bill Cosby, Justin Timberlake,
Jon Bon Jovi, 50 Cent, Maria Sharapova and the sports teams Manchester United and the New York Mets. The Major League Baseball Players Association is also on the list of clients.
The case of Marc Dreier and his Ponzi Scheme is the lead story on 60 Minutes tonight and he is expected to tell his story unlike Bernie Madoff. It will be very interesting to hear what he has to say.
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Here, he recounts his reasoning to CBS:
“I was very disappointed in my life. I guess some people would say maybe a lot of men reach a so-called midlife crisis. I was 52,” he tells Kroft.
“I felt that I wanted my life to be more successful than it was and I saw this as the opportunity to do that in a very, obviously, shortsighted, foolish and selfish way.
I had never done anything illegal before…but I remember being at a place in my life where I was perhaps desperate to better myself and to make a place for myself,” says Dreier.
Not surprisingly, his victims aren’t buying it.”
October 21st, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Steel_Magnolia Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Just what is JM getting at here?
http://www.breatheheavy.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1256151549&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&
“Time to find your own men, honey!”
LOL
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Great minds think alike. I was just about to post that link. Maybe JM sees a little of what I see in Lynn…a certain track record. I’m guessing he isn’t a fan of Lynn. That makes two of us. (you can be the third Steel
)
LMAO at “time to find your own men, honey!”
Sorry to those who are fans of Lynn.
October 21st, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Oh small, can’t I be part of the club? Unless she helped Britney with that Nokia phone I have thrown in the towel on her.
It was a great set-up by Jordan putting the glossy where he did.
October 21st, 2009 at 4:24 pm
I really like this Canadian writer, Kat Angus.
‘Trawick is also reportedly encouraging Brit-Brit to face up to her issues like a mature, well-rounded adult, instead of trying to find happiness with her many shopping sprees. (To be fair, a new Mercedes staves off a lot of sadness.)’
October 21st, 2009 at 4:26 pm
“small hands Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 3:56 pm
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Great minds think alike. I was just about to post that link. Maybe JM sees a little of what I see in Lynn…a certain track record. I’m guessing he isn’t a fan of Lynn. That makes two of us. (you can be the third Steel )
LMAO at “time to find your own men, honey!”
Sorry to those who are fans of Lynn.”
‘**********************’
I just wonder.
People believe what the gossip papers says?
How do we know that Lynne have said this?
October 21st, 2009 at 4:28 pm
I think it is the gossip papers who try to create a new romans..
Nothing else.
October 21st, 2009 at 4:30 pm
I still don’t see anything steamy going on. I guess that’s why Jason and the eldest got cropped off.
http://www.killthelights.org/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=2
It’s a very nice picture though.
October 21st, 2009 at 4:31 pm
LOL @ Kat’s headline:
“Britney’s New Boyfriend Will Make a Great Future Ex-Husband”
October 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Steel. Kat is fun isn’t she. I read some of her other stuff and then shamelessly plugged FNS.
Grand winner again today is Kevin has sole custody. So. People do read teamkevin.com
October 21st, 2009 at 4:59 pm
LOL Steel @ 4:31.
AM–you can be part of the club.
Ama–I have had a distaste for Lynn for awhile now. This particular headline did nothing to change my opinion. You can disagree with my opinion if you choose. It’s a free country. As a whole, I don’t really see Lynn around Britney too much and it has been that way for yrs…at least from what I see/read. But I don’t know what happens behind the scenes. Considering other things about Britney have come out, I’m sure I would have read something about how much Lynn has been there for her. I’ve only seen pictures of her on vacation with Britney. In the end, I know nothing. It’s all my opinion and pretty much means nothing to everyone but me
But you are right, just because they say she said that doesn’t mean she did.
I still find what JM wrote funny, whether it’s true or not.
HI DOC! Just in case doc is lurking
Good morning, afternoon, and night depending on where you are. It’s afternoon here. I will take a peek in here around midnight my time.
October 21st, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Just a thought to MT, Jason, K-Fed. Is this an example of you have to make one look worse for the other to look better? Hi, small by the way, thanks for letting me into the club. I’m shocked I was not a more obvious nominee. jk
K-Fed has lost his bloom (not sure he ever had one)in recent media coverage and I swear MK snapped at me when I asked about it. That was so weird by the way like an omg it’s him! kind of moment. Still I am glad he talked to me.
I’m just looking at how the game is playing out. An unmarried man and single is accompanying Brit on tour, an explanation must be made for him. I frankly think he helps keep her sane by sharing her ordeal with her as a friend and/or partner in crime. He too has to share Jamie’s brusqueness, the onslaught of cameras, schedule, being touched and directed by body guards.
I know I am alone but I still think there was more to the generation of 3.
October 21st, 2009 at 5:43 pm
http://x17online.com/
First story as of now.
I’m too lazy to post the entire link.
Britney Visited By Dr’s/Plots To End C-ship
October 21st, 2009 at 5:47 pm
coolio, Fantasy. I’m posting the longer thread because I am procrastinating big time on another thing and wish to preserve the source of the info for another time.
http://x17online.com/celebrities/britney_spears/x17_xclusive_britney_visited_by_doctor_plotting_to_end_conservatorship-10212009.php
October 21st, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Interesting story but X17 does tend to exaggerate. I’m slowly (Oh, I hate to say it),very slowly beginning to think that the rumors are true that B and Jason are together.
I know I can be easily persuaded at times. But yet I just remember how things were with Jennifer Lopez and Marc Anthony when they started dating. Never a confirmation from them. Even after their wedding. It took months for them to “come out” as a couple. Maybe that’s the case here. Maybe?
OR if this X17 (and the RadrOnline) stories are to be believed it could be something totally different. I think St. Mag. and I had a similar thought in the summer. Remember St. Mag. when I said that I thought that something was up?
You know? A merging of the teams? Maybe that’s the case here. Maybe?
October 21st, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Thank youfor posting the link, Am.
It was just too long. Same thing with the new story about them on RadarOnline. Too much for me.
October 21st, 2009 at 6:20 pm
LOL, very well Fantasy.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/exclusive-britney-and-boyfriends-zombie-date
I note that JM has been a lot nicer about Trawick and I too sense a merge of the teams? All Britney had to do was talk about her loneliness and need for this one friend. “It’s like, it’s like I’m going to go crazy out there with the paps but Jason is there with me. He’s a calming presence. It’s bearable. He’s my friend. My kids get along. I hate all this security around me. I don’t need Brett treating me like a child. I can pee on my own.”
Sorry. That word would so offend another generation.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:08 pm
This is very much like a film that I am watching. Or a soap opera because soap operas go on and on while a film will ultimately have an end.
I forget that sometimes.
October 21st, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Good analogy, F.
For Steel, a tweet:
SteveDennis71 Me to Harper Canada: “Can u confirm the release date for #Britney book?” Publisher: “Oh, it came out in August…didn’t we tell you?”
October 21st, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Hey, if Jason’s the one to get her out of this, kudos to him.
They can always have the marriage annulled later, right?
October 21st, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Unlike X-17, I would not make a big deal about the fact that a doctor visited Brit. First, as a part of the conservatorship, Brit is periodically evaluated so that the court has an updated medical history on her to keep track of her progress. For all we know this could be a part of Brit’s annual psychiatric evaluation for a future hearing that is not even scheduled.
I am still not convinced that the court continued the conservatorship for the tour because that is not one of the four legal reasons why someone can be kept on the conservatorship. The ability to obtain insurance for the tour and Brit’s need to be under a conservatorship are two separate things.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:13 pm
QB, I wouldn’t be shocked if there was an underlying condition that her team doesn’t want anyone to know about. Having suffered from something as simple as anxiety myself, I know it can be pretty debilitating if not treated. The tour insurance excuse seems like a great way to divert attention away from an actual medical problem.
However…Let’s say, just for an example, that depression/anxiety/bad judgment are the cause here. I can’t see how someone could actually improve while living under the conditions that Brit is living under (constantly being supervised, not knowing when the C-Ship will end, etc.)
But just imagine if Jason is the one going to bat for her. That would actually be pretty nice. I’d always seen him as a paid babysitter. But what if he’s something more?
October 21st, 2009 at 11:14 pm
AM, Your tweet story confused me for a minute…Only because Harper is the name of our Prime Minister! lol
October 21st, 2009 at 11:52 pm
You know, that X17 headline and accompanying photo are brilliant. X17 just set Jason up to be the bad guy (depending on which side of the conservatorship fence you sit on if you’re a Britney fan).
Do you realize how this is going to change the story? We might have a new bad guy on our hands. That means that Adnan will no longer be the bad guy in the soap opera.
BRILLIANT. Or am I dreaming?
October 21st, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Ronnie, you’ve got some /tag/ and /celeb/ issues going on. FYI.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:54 pm
Or maybe it was planned that way. Nevermind.
Goodnight.
AMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAM!
October 21st, 2009 at 11:59 pm
Steel-
Your post regarding the conservatorship makes absolute sense. The conservatorship is some sense is a double edge sword. One hand, it acts a security blanket to keep Brit away from the things and people that might do her harm; it protects her.
On the other hand, part of being an adult is making judgment calls as to who and what are right for you- from where you live to who your friends and close associates are. Jamie can’t protect Brit for ever and nor should he.
If Brit is the kind of person who is easily manipulated to the point where she can be taken advantage of to a horrible to degree (See Lutfi) and that is the reason why she is under a conservatorship, I do not know how you overcome that by having Daddy run interference by choosing where you live, your friends etc. Brit has to find a way to make good choices and that will come with time.
Jason seems like a good guy but I do not want to believe that any woman including Brit needs a man to save her and that is what X-17 is implying. Jason can obviously help her but she should be the driving force in her life.
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:20 am
Well said, QB. I agree with you.
Britney should be the driving force in her life.
I long to see that day come.
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:17 am
Great thoughts/opinions from everyone.
I won’t believe anything about the c-ship until I see it over and done with.
About Jason, he spends more time Britney than her own mom does. Okay, I’ll stop with the Lynne bashing. It’s getting old.
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:07 am
I’d think the C-Ship could be very…spirit crushing. And Jason seems to be a bit of a partner-in-crime for Brit (though I’m not buying yet that he’s a romantic partner-in-crime). He’s a TV agent, and must be a pretty sharp guy. It would be nice if he’s quietly guiding Brit on how to get out of this situation…Maybe giving her advice that doesn’t contradict Jamie, but actually does help her at the same time.
Plus, he was around before Jamie came into the picture, right? So maybe, just maybe, he’s secretly Team B (while everyone else appears to be Team J.
And I agree – Brit should be the driving force in her life. But with the people she’s surrounded by, I’d think that would have to be awfully hard!
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:52 am
Going back to Jason-
Anyone who has been perceived by Jamie and Co. as attempting to undermine the conservatorship has been removed from Brit’s life: Ali, Sam and Adnan are all gone. Therefore, I do not believe that Jason is somehow working against Jamie to end the conservatorship otherwise he would have been tossed aside like the rest.
Jamie obviously believes that Jason is a positive influence and ultimately Jason knows that Jamie is in charge for now.
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:05 am
There seems to be two lines of thought when it comes to the C-Ship:
1/ It’s great! It’s the best thing that ever happened to Brit. She needed it. It’s worked wonders!
2/ It’s insidious. It’s a way to force Brit to be a show pony and make everyone loads of cash.
And then I guess there’s:
3/ It’s a bit of both. It was necessary at the time, has helped her on many fronts, but it is heavy handed and needs to come to an end. And the sooner the better.
The way people perceive Jason (and Adnan) probably has a lot to do with how they perceive the C-Ship.
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:21 am
Steel-
I absolutely agree with you. I favor option #3. I think the conservatorship was appropriate when it was first instituted but thinking long term, the ultimate goal should be to put Brit in a position where she can run her own life so I definetly favor an end date some time in 2010.
The conservatorship should have stayed temporary and not permanent with a review every 6 months where the judge has to decide to end or extend it.
A lot of the people who visit Brit fan sites truly believe that the conservatorship will end after the tour (11/09) and that it was only kept around to get insurance which I do not believe. What will these people say if when 2010 rolls around and Brit is still under Jamie’s control.
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:48 pm
I can’t find the original story, but TMZ almost seemed to know the C-Ship was coming before Brit did:
http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/19605348.html
“Now, as we just reported, Brit’s family and professionals have devised a plan to get her mental health help in a “creative way.”
Am I reading that right?
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:35 pm
To AM
I found this. 34 sides long!
Have not read it yet.
I must for sure use the translator a lot..
But if you are interested:
“Paparazzi and Privacy the Loyola of Los Angeles Entertainment Law Review”
http://elr.lls.edu/issues/v28-issue3/documents/06.Alach.pdf
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:37 pm
What was my point to that last post? That I would be in Category #1 if it wasn’t for stuff like what appears on TMZ. It’s what launches me in to Category #2, and then I slowly find myself in Category #3…Until the next time I see something on Perez or TMZ. And then I’m back to Category #2 again.
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Steel_
I could not find it either, but I found this site
http://www.poorbritney.com/blog/?tag=lawyer&paged=2
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Steel_
Waht do you mean by 1# 2# 3# and so on?
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Steel,
I do not think TMZ knew that the conservatorship was coming beforehand. I believe that someone was obviously feeding them bad information to get them off the real story. According to Lynne’s book the conservatorship was weeks in the making and everyone was shocked when it down because it is usually elderly people with Alzheimers or demenstia that are put under a conservatorship.
Outlets like TMZ thought that there would be in effect a repeat of the rehab saga. The family would stage some kind of intervention, Brit would agree to voluntarily check herself into some psychiatric facility and then Kevin would agree to take the children to visit their mother in the facility just like he did when Brit was at Promises.
At some point the family decided to go with the conservatorship because it gives them so much control and authority over all aspects of her life. The conservatorship gave a kind of stability to Brit’s life that would otherwise not be there once released from the psych ward.
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Amapola this is 1, 2 and 3 below from Steel:
There seems to be two lines of thought when it comes to the C-Ship:
1/ It’s great! It’s the best thing that ever happened to Brit. She needed it. It’s worked wonders!
2/ It’s insidious. It’s a way to force Brit to be a show pony and make everyone loads of cash.
And then I guess there’s:
3/ It’s a bit of both. It was necessary at the time, has helped her on many fronts, but it is heavy handed and needs to come to an end. And the sooner the better.
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Britney said NO. She did not wanted to undergo any psychologic test.
Then, her family and some lawyers, decided they have enought material to seek for c-chip?
If Britney knowed this would happend, we dont know, but she for sure did not wanted to be in a “test” in front of the whole US – all leaks and so on…
And of course, she was not in her best state.
She was totally exhausted.
Anyone who have felt what she felt, and been in a state like she was in then, know how important privacy and calm surrounding, is for a person to heal then.
Nothing was wrong with her love for her kids, but she needed help.
I still say.
After seeing that Kaplan was so early involved with K Federline, it was no suprise that KF would work on crush her self-confidence totally.
She was the one who loved.
And wanted the kids to be born.
She was the one who really wanted them.
Her parents can not be so innocent as they want the world to believe.
She did not trust them for a long time.. Something must have happened.
I guess that is something very private.
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
QB
I did not read your comment before I posted mine..
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Amapola,
The relationship that Brit had with her parents deteriorated because the whole rehab situation. She felt forced; she did not feel she had a drug/alcohol problem; she felt her parents had sided with Kevin’s bid to get custody from her.
When Brit was in the rehab, Lynne was spotted visiting the boys at Kevin’s house many times. Over the next few months, Jamie and Lynn would often go to Kevin’s house to visit the children which I’m sure upset Brit even more.
Overall, she felt totally betrayaed. The damage was done and who knows if she really trusts them or simply tolerates them for sake of peace.
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Another day. Another story.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569087,00.html
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
omg everyone. FoxNews printed the truth for a change. Britney has no custody.
The rest of the article is um.. interesting?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569087,00.html?test=faces
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Who is Pop Tart by the way and LOL at Steel @12:54 AMAMAMAMA.
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:47 pm
AM-
1st!!!! LOL
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Yea! Fantasy!!!! I don’t know if one little website can have any effect on the big guys but I can’t believe Pop Tart and/or Fox told the truth about that, finally.
We haven’t seen TMZ stir any more rumors on the c-ship coming to an end in December either.
Likely just coincidence but who knows. Maybe they never had a whistle blower before.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:23 pm
In “Through the Storm” did Lynne say that she KNEW the conservatorship was coming down? Or did she find out at the same time as Brit and everyone else?
QB, You could be right that TMZ didn’t know that the c-ship was coming. But I do believe someone inside Jamie’s camp fed them the story about the “creative” way they were going to get Brit a chance to see her boys. Maybe they just didn’t come right out and say that “creative” meant “conservatorship.”
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Be right back, but what is WRONG with TMZ?
‘Streisand — a cousin of Barbra Streisand — was involved early on in the Britney Spears conservatorship case. He had several meetings with Britney but says he realized she was not competent to hire a lawyer on her own so he backed out.’
http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/22/katherine-jackson-britney-spears-adam-streisand-barbra-streisand-londell-mcmillan/
Here we go again with the onslaught?
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:36 pm
I twittered Harvey (like he reads his tweets but who knows?).
Steel. I don’t remember the wording of what Lynne said. You might find the word for word text in the archives. I don’t have time to look up, sorry.
I am steamed. I feel like saying, “Stop doing damage, Harvey.” I left it at stop lying. On the other hand…
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:47 pm
So this is how it’s going down.
http://www.examiner.com/x-26001-Hollywood-Culture-Examiner~y2009m10d22-Britney-Spears-now-singing-about-threesomes-ruins-efforts-by-her-dad-to-clean-up-her-image
Great. The brand gets her to record the song and Britney does what she is told?
‘It’s too bad for the family and children of the fallen star that after all this time, she still just doesn’t seem to get it.’
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:49 pm
This was probably already posted a long time ago but to answer your question, St. Mag., in Lynne’s book she writes: “Quiet plans had been underway for 6 weeks for Jamie to petition the court for temporary conservatorship of Britney…In fact, Jamie was going to file for the conservatorship on (Tuesday) January 22, eight days before-hand, but he and his business manager, Lou, felt God leading them to wait, fast, and pray, despite the frustration of a phalanx of lawyers.”
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:50 pm
http://www.breatheheavy.com/exhale/viewthread.php?tid=198016
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:51 pm
So Jamie had originally wanted to file for the c-ship, according to Lynne, on January 22, 2008. But she says they were quietly planning to file the petition 6 weeks before that which would have been the week of Mon. Dec.10- Fri. Dec.14, 2007.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Sorry Am. Didn’t see your posts. Go on.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:57 pm
I think it’s accurate to say that Lynne did know about the c-ship in advance. She probably had a say in it. She was far from surprised when it all came to fruition. imo.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Fantasy, it doesn’t say “they were planning” as is it clear that Lynne knew about it ahead of time or not?
I sure would love to see a #fireHarveyLevinTMZ. He goes too far.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:11 pm
I would think that there would be a fair amount of planning, preparation, and discussion before heading to court to ask a judge to grant you total control over someone else’s life and finances. No? Lynne wrote that “quiet plans” had been underway. Quiet? So quiet that only a select few knew about what they were going to attempt to do. Britney, imo, didn’t know about this.
Yeah she needed the help. But if you read one more paragraph from the book there seemed to me that regaining control of Britney was a major issue for her parents. Lynne said it herself.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:19 pm
I watched video of Lynne earlier when she was on the Today show and Fox News promoting the book last year. She did feel that with all of the money that Britney has and all the people around her such as hair stylists or friends, that she began to feel that she had less of an influence on her daughter. That she’s just a mom, uncool, and that the opinions of the other people in Britney’s life mattered more to her than that of Lynne’s. It sounded like Lynne felt left out.
I feel that Lynne, based on what she said and how she said it, felt like she was losing Britney. Even before Sam or any of the others from 2007 came on the scene. It must be extremely tough to watch your child break away from you and want to explore the world and life outside of what you brought her up to know and love. Lynne had a tough time letting go. That’s natural. But that’s also a part of growing up.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:23 pm
‘It’s too bad for the family and children of the fallen star that after all this time, she still just doesn’t seem to get it.’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Funny. Brit doesn’t write the song. Brit doesn’t produce the song. Brit probably doesn’t even pick out the song. But she gets blamed for trying to counteract all the good that her dad is doing by singing it? Jeepers.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:29 pm
I started a thread on Exhale. I love the first comment back.
Meanwhile, “But she gets blamed for trying to counteract all the good that her dad is doing by singing it? Jeepers.”
She gets blamed for alot like that weak choreography and oversized tee on Mannequin.
Strategy? Or cheap shots at cover-up for others’ mistakes.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Fantasy Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Lynne had a tough time letting go. That’s natural. But that’s also a part of growing up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Yeah, I’m in my early 30’s and my mom tried to tell me that I “wasn’t allowed” to have a skinny pig because I “wouldn’t take care of it.” So I got one, just to show her. Then I got a dog and my dad told me I had to “take it back because it was too big.” So I kept it, just to prove to him that I could do it.
Now the big dog is like a family member. And now they feel like jerks for treating me like I was 12. Parents can be pretty overprotective sometimes. Especially with girls. They really don’t like letting go.
Luckily for me, I’m not a multi-millionaire. Or else I’d never be able to shake them!
So something tells me my parents and Brit’s parents would get along just fine.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:36 pm
I should add that I don’t even live at home, and they’re still trying to tell me I can’t do things that 12-year olds are capable of doing.
TMI, I know…But maybe that’s why I feel a sort of kinship with Brit. But my parental problems don’t even come *close* to hers.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:37 pm
TMZ gets the story wrong again. Adam Steisand had every intention of representing Brit in her fight against her dad being her conservator but the problem was the court found that Brit lacked the capacity to retain counsel after receiving a report from the Probate Investigator who basically said that Brit was out of it and did not know or understand what was going on when she was in the hospital for the second time. After ruling, Adam was dimissed from the courtroom.
After being released from the hospital, Brit obtained a car from her business manager and with Adnan headed straight to Adam’s office and they had a meeting. After the meeting, the lawyers for the conservators informed Adam that the judge had previously ruled that Brit lacked the capacity to hire counsel meaning him so he had no choice but to back off. Adam always felt that Brit was competent otherwise he would not have tried to represent her.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:37 pm
And these are the days of our lives…
LOL
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Oops, my 8:37 post was related to my 8:36 post…Not to QB’s.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:09 pm
LOL. I like it better where it is.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:09 pm
I also liked your story, Steel.
AAAMAMAMAMAMAAM
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Why do I feel like Doc is going to show up any second and tell me to go outside?! LOL
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:39 am
Does anyone else find this odd?
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/mom-britneys-new-beau-would-make-a-dream-husband-20092110
“For much more on Spears – including how she is still haunted by the effect her mental illness had on her boys, how she has repaired her once rocky relationship with her mother and how Trawick has already began acting as “dad” to the singer’s sons – pick up the new Us Weekly today!”
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:06 am
I do not get the US Weekly article. They are trying to make something out of nothing.
I think it is funny that US Weekly says that Jason was the only person who never abandoned her. First, Adnan never abandoned Brit but like many others in Brit’s life, Jamie got rid of him.
Second, how is Jason acting like a “dad” to two children who already have father who is involved in their lives.
I was just on Breathheavy/Exhale someone posted that Brit is not under the “physical” control of the conservatorship although the legal control remains.
These fans do not get it. Brit has no real freedom or control over her life, you do not have to be anti the conservatorship to recognize that. She can’t go where she wants; see who she wants or spend what she wants. It’s like telling someone “you can eat whatever you want as long as it is one of these two choices”. Brit’s choices right now are very limited.
Brit can either go down to Mexico with Jamie, nanny, bodyguards and Jason or she can stay in LA with Jamie, nanny, bodyguards and Jason. Those are her choices. She is never left alone.
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:34 am
>>>“you can eat whatever you want as long as it is one of these two choices”
That was a good one.
October 23rd, 2009 at 2:02 am
Steel you’re funny.
I don’t know what to think anymore.
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:44 am
What I found odd about the article was the use of the term “mental illness.” We don’t see that used very often, especially with what appears to be a Spears-approved article.
Question…
What agencies got in on the latest Mexico shots? I’ve seen some from Splash. Any others? I’m thinking Splash must have got an invite – how else would they know that Brit was going to be in that location?
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:46 am
Also, the “dad” comments in reference to Jason are a bit of a backhanded slam against K-Fed (IMO).
AM, I think you’re right. The tides are purposely being turned against Kevin. Slowly, but it’s there.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 am
Yay! Just got Lady Gaga (ft. Kid Cudi) tickets. Second row from the floor, near the mixing booth. Not nearly as good a spot as the Britney tickets, but it should still be a good show.
Now I’ll have to write a review contrasting The Monster Ball with The Circus. I bet you can’t wait. LOL
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:55 am
In regards to the media going against Kevin, I think everything goes in cycles.
At the time of the divorce the story was “good wife/good mother” Brit vs. “bad dad/bad husband” Kevin and then Brit started going to down hill and then it was “good dad” Kevin needs to save kids from “bad mom” Brit and now Brit’s life has started to improve and now its “good mom” Brit and “bad dad” Kevin and Brit needs to take the kids awasy him and pretty soon the tides will turn again.
US Weekly was one of the many magazines that bashed Brit when she was on her downward sprial and now they are rooting for her. I predict the next headline will read “Trouble in Paradise: Brit and Jason take a break- Brit tells Jason ‘I do not want marry you’”. You can see how ridiculous the whole tabloid game is.
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:36 am
All leads appreciated. Thank you.
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:44 am
Going outside. Really outside. I might be back for two minutes later but have a great weekend ya’all!
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Alright. I am off to camp. Have a super weekend!
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:30 pm
AM, Have you joined the Girl Scout’s? LOL
Have a good weekend, too.
In the meantime, this probably isn’t something you’ll see from Britney fans:
http://perezhilton.com/2009-10-23-this-is-not-it-say-michael-jackson-fans
October 24th, 2009 at 1:20 am
I’d never watched this documentary before…It’s best watching start to finish:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWD8sM5kFYg&NR=1
“You gotta make a decision, you are 20 years old.”
October 24th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Go outside…. Steel.
October 24th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
I just finished watching Stages. (Thanks St.Mag.)
I was just thinking about something. Does anyone know how long a depressive episode last for those who are bipolar? Yes, I’m asking this because of Britney. Girlfriend has a major case of the blues.
I was at BH and saw pics of her from last night. Sad. Sad. And more sad. Her eyes look pained and empty. I’ve read other people’s comments elsewhere so I know I’m not being dramatic and imagining things.
For a couple of weeks she’s just had that look. With the exception of her being in the pool with her boys in Mexico where she looked genuinely happy, she appears to be sad. I know that she’s not going to always look upbeat but this time I feel and see a difference. You know?
I’m only being observant. I hope she feels better.
October 24th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
“Fantasy Says:
October 24th, 2009 at 3:06 pm”
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Do not do it!
Do not smile Britney!
Do not give a smile to humans who believes that other humans are depressed as soon as they do not smile and smile and smile and smile and smile and smile and smile and smile and smile and smile and smile and smile and smile and smile and smile and smile and smile and smile and smile and smile and smile
October 24th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
If this is true or not a false article
“w w w x-britney com
“Que música você gostaria que fosse sua?
Chain Of Fools (Aretha Franklin, ouça aqui).”
What song do you wish was yours?
Britney: Chain Of Fools”
Lyrics to Chain Of Fools :
Chain Of Fools
Chain, chain, chain
(Chain, chain, chain)
Chain, chain, chain
(Chain, chain, chain)
Chain, chain, chain
(Chain…chain…chain..)
(Chain of fools)
For five long years
I thought you were my man
But I found out, I’m just a link in your chain
Oh, you got me where you want me
I ain’t nothin but your fool
Ya treated me mean
Oh you treated me cruel
Chain, chain, chain
(Chain, chain, chain
Chain of fools)
Every chain, has got a weak link
I might be weak child, but I’ll give you strength
Oh, babe
(Woo, woo, woo, woo)
You told me to leave you alone
(Ooo, ooo, ooo, ooo)
My father said ‘Come on home’
(Ooo, ooo, ooo, ooo)
My doctor said ‘Take it easy’
(Ooo, ooo, ooo, ooo)
Oh but your lovin is just too strong
(Ooo, ooo, ooo, ooo)
I’m added to your
Chain, chain, chain
(Chain, chain, chain)
Chain, chain, chain
(Chain chain, chain)
Chain, chain, chain
(Chain…chain…chain…)
Chain of fools
Oh, one of these mornings
The chain is gonna break
But up until the day
I’m gonna take all I can take, oh babe
Chain, chain, chain
(Chain, chain, chain)
Chain, chain, chain
(Chain, chain, chain)
Chain, chain, chain
(Chain…chain…chain…)
(Chain of fools)
Oh!
(Chain, chain, chain, chain, chain, chain, chain)
(Chain, chain, chain)
Oh-oh!
(Chain, chain, chain, -ain, ain, ain, ain)
Your chain of fools
FADES-
Oooooooooooooooooh……
[ Chain Of Fools Lyrics on http://www.lyricsmania.com/ ]
October 24th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
And suddenly everything seems back to normal around here. LOL
October 24th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
I took a break from the computer and went OUT.
Taking Doc’s advice sometimes can be a good thing.
Amapola-
I know that I’m not a medical professional. I was simply making an observation. I’ve read comments at fansites other than BH and there are people other than myself who’ve noticed a change in Britney. I know she isn’t going to have a smile plastered on her face all day, everyday. I don’t expect that from anyone. Especially her.
To me she just looks really depressed. The cause of it could be anything. I honestly don’t feel that it’s all because of the paparazzi taking her picture. I don’t know what it is. But there’s something to it. That’s just my opinion. Okay?
October 25th, 2009 at 12:04 am
Fantasy Says:
October 24th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
I honestly don’t feel that it’s all because of the paparazzi taking her picture.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Well, she looked like that in person, too. The first couple songs at her concert she looked PISSED. And for the rest of it she looked pleasant, or mildly amused…My sister thought she “looked bored, like she didn’t want to be there.” I thought she looked a bit happier than that. But she certainly looked nothing like the person in the Stages documentary. Nothing. It’s as if she’s a different personal altogether. It’s almost eerie.
October 25th, 2009 at 12:19 am
Compare this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJYxKt0wWH0
…to any photo or video of her that you’ve seen since January 2008.
Small, don’t even bother watching. It will just make you sad.
October 25th, 2009 at 12:51 am
Aww, I could watch behind-the-scenes documentaries like this all day long.
Love, love, love them!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR__7xURy0M&feature=related
October 25th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
I’m back. So’s the Doc. Cool.
I read this over again and while I was initially happy to see Pop Tart admit to the custody issue I did not realize the message. Britney doesn’t have her kids back because her dad is still revamping her image?
‘Britney Spears still doesn’t have custody of her kids, however Pop Tarts has been told the comeback kid of 2009 is still being remodeled and revamped into a sweeter starlet by her father and co-conservator, Jamie Spears.’
Maybe I got too much sun over the weekend.
I was also kind of rethinking a few things, turning them around. What if I have been wrong all along about the Brand being the one to work with TMZ and others to make Britney seem in need of care. I am just trying to think of the different advantages some might have in that kind of a situation.
Maybe I saw too many stars or maybe the scorpion I saw startled me into a new way of thinking or maybe I am learning from Steel to spin things around. So I am asking. Would Lutfi have anything to gain from B still looking in need of care? Just asking. Spin spin spin. Hope you all are still enjoying a great weekend.
October 25th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
G. I hope no one is pissed by this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dweYyf4Wqvk
I don’t know. MH? The other side of the coin? The rest of the story. Fair. You know?
Sorry. No circus at the end. It is what it is.
October 26th, 2009 at 3:35 am
Hi Doc
Hi everyone.
All I want is for B to be happy. Britney from the past is gone.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:53 am
After I posted those last links, I got thinking, and there WAS a time when she looked happy (or at least happier). It was during the filming of her first videos…during the time leading up to the tour being announced. But since then, I can’t think of any real interviews she’s done to be able to get a sense of how she’s doing. And her public appearances have been very, very brief – almost TOO brief (e.g. the ticket giveaways, where she’d get out of the car, take a photo, and get back in the car without even waving to the fans).
I’d have to say that the Circus Tour was great for polishing her public image…But I don’t know if it’s done anything for her on a personal level. But who knows. Maybe one day she’ll do a nice sit-down interview on Oprah and we’ll get to actually hear her talk for once.
October 26th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
I don’t think Britney will be on Oprah until Britney is a free woman and decides what she wants the public to know.
October 26th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
I agree with AM. Don’t expect any in depth interviews until the conservatorship is over.
October 26th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
AM, I think you’re right as well.
October 26th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
http://www.usmagazine.com/momsbabies/news/britneys-new-beau-treats-her-boys-like-his-own-20092310
They need us to believe this. Why. Tour promo? Support Britney Spears?
Why do they want the public or the fans to believe Jason is a good “father” along with Britney fighting for full custody?
What’s the game plan?
October 26th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
AM-
The media wants us to believe thar Brit and Jason are in a serious relationship because it sells papers. Tabloids love two things: weddings and babies (pregnancy). If Brit is dating and in love a wedding can’t be too far behind, right and then perhaps another child, this time a little girl. I could write the story myself, we all know how the tabloids operate.
US Weekly and before that Pop Tarts accurately stated that Brit only has visitation while Kevin has custody. Why then does TMZ continually mistate the truth in regards to this issue.
October 26th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
About Trawick. Jul. 2008, LA Times.
‘The paparazzi’s presence may never again reach the levels that preceded Spears’ hospitalizations, but neither is it likely to remain as low as it is now, those in the industry say.
Eventually, she will resume a more public life, they say, and when she does, the cameras will be waiting.
“If Britney were to walk out tonight with a new boyfriend, we could still command high prices for those photos,” Doherty said.’
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jul/30/local/me-paparazzi30?pg=3
October 26th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
QB, who is Pop Tart? They sure picked a good name. I haven’t outdone myself in looking but an easy glance was not enough to identify a company.
So I thought I would ask. You meanwhile are operating the Tabloid Pyramid while I am operating under the Brand Pyramid. Seems to be a happy wedding for them: Holly, her press/image rep, could step in at any time and change the media.
So I look beyond the tabloids to the game plan.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
QB. I wish you would set up a fake account just to send you documents.
Ricky Mendoza v. Britney Spears. Settlement reached Oct. 15 but there is yet a hearing on defendants demurrer re punitive damages on Nov. 3rd.
So… one part is settled and will be heard in December while meanwhile this is still on the plate?
October 26th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
I love to hear more about Adnan being served more than one.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
once not one
October 26th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
Hi Adnan…hope you’re well.
October 27th, 2009 at 1:29 am
I am a one man show out here. There’s encouragement but it’s easy to get distracted.
…
October 27th, 2009 at 10:32 am
“Why’s the family talking to tabloids?”
http://www.breatheheavy.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1256625794&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&
October 27th, 2009 at 11:28 am
I kind of agree with Jordan on the US Weekly. Like any tabloid article, it is full of inaccuracies. I think it is funny how US is making a bid deal about all those expensive “dates” which Brit actually paid for.
I do not know what big Hollywood agent who can afford to spend all their time focused on one client unless he is receiving some kind of compensation. I mean, Jason’s other clients must feel that they come second to Brit.
I’m so sick of hearing how Lynne and Jamie really like Jason. Of course, they do. If they did not he would not be around like Adnan.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:52 am
http://twitter.com/SteveDennis71/status/5158338030
October 27th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Steve’s tweet made me chuckle a little.
Just thought I’d share it with you all.
Hi everybody.
October 27th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Ronnie…please excuse the language.
FUCK YEAH!!! I love this interview!
http://x17video.com/celebrity_video/sam_lutfi/sam_lufti_talks_candidly_about.php
October 27th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Thank you, Sam.
(Geez, I can’t believe I just said that…)
October 27th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Thanks for the video MH.
I wonder if JM will post the video to BH.
It’ll totally go over the heads of the average Exhaler but it’s something that should be posted there. No matter how they’ll react to it.
I have my own personal thoughts about Sam too however I do agree with a lot that he said.
October 27th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Hey Harvey,
You going put Sam’s video on your site? Talk about it on TMZ Live? Show it on your TV show?
October 27th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
If anything, I’d love for more celebrities to start coming out and asking the same questions. “Why don’t we every hear from Britney? Why don’t you ask to speak to her personally?”
It would be great to see a snowball effect start happening. Everyone has been too quiet on this for far too long.
October 27th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
From the US Weekly article:
“…they haven’t seen Britney this happy in awhile. “She’s the Britney we haven’t seen for a long time, and it’s emotional for us to see her like this.”
Funny how that’s the exact OPPOSITE of the discussions we’ve been having here. I feel like Camp Lockdown is trying WAY to hard to convince us how happy she is. Way to hard.
October 27th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
>>>Camp Lockdown
lol that’s a good one.
>>>If anything, I’d love for more celebrities to start coming out and asking the same questions.
not gonna happen.
October 27th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Hey, if Paul Haggis can denounce the Church of Scientology, someone can tell a reporter to ask to speak to Britney personally.
…Right?
P.S. I’m kind of worried for Paul Haggis right now. I hope he’s got good security!
October 27th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
MH @1:14 … I wonder that a publicist would shed light on why mum’s the word among 99.9% of the celebrities…
October 27th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Thank you, Sam, for asking the questions. I’ll add one more. Who are Britney’s friends and can’t a girl go shopping with one of them? Can Gwen Steffani be considered a friend or a prop?
October 27th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
rocking the boat in hollywood is never a good career move.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
saying a word here or there is one thing. going all out like in sam did in the vid, not gonna happen.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
again, movement in february.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
“”But She knows I miss her and I’ll see her again soon. …” Sam continued.”
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Here I vomit.
The mere thought that Britney would spend a single second, in company with Sam Lutfi sends chills through your body.
Shudder of disgust.
His statement shows how far removed from reality he is.
That people listening to him is appalling.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Wait. So Brit’s not taking the kids to take on tour?
http://teamkevin.blogspot.com/2009/10/britney-spears-will-hit-australian.html
October 27th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
@MH
AMAAMAMMAAMMAMAAM
yipe. lol.
October 27th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
not sure what your last post means. just to be clear… i was talking about celebrities in my posts.
October 27th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Sorry, MH. I thought you were doing a play or joking in posting three thoughts in separate posts.
Meanwhile, what does anyone think of Sam’s interview and the timing? Sur is in acknowledged pap-territory?
October 27th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
The Sam Lutfi video was so “Kaplan-style”.
Even down to the lady in dark hair.
She is more handsome than Sam, as Kaplan ladies always look as they are more class than Kaplan.
(And longer/taller.)
Love in the air? A romance? Sam are in love?
October 27th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
LOL, Ama, but true and a dentist?
October 27th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Case Number: SC103157
KERRY M. VINE VS. BRITNEY SPEARS ET. AL.
Filing Date: 05/18/2009
Case Type: Infliction of Emotional Distress (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Dismissed – Other 10/23/2009
10/27/2009 at 08:30 am in department WEO at 1725 Main Street, Santa Monica, CA 90401
Hearing on Demurrer (2) MOTION TO STRIKEDISMISSAL FILED 10/23/09 ENTIREACTION)
10/23/2009 Request for Dismissal (W/O PREJUDICE ENTIRE ACTION )
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff
October 27th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
AM-
The boys will join Brit on tour just not initially. They will meet up with her a week and a half or so after the leg begins.
I do not really think Brit has any real friends right now. Brit has for the most part female assistants who are kind of like a “paid friend”. They go shopping and out to eat together. Gwen Stefani is more like an associate than a true friend.
I remember many years ago, Brit was very close to her cousin Laura Lynn Covington- I think she was either her bridesmaid or maid of honor at her wedding and was also at her baby shower. I guess they do not really hang out anymore.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Thanks, QB. Do you remember the rollercoaster promo and Brit out with I think the cousin you mention?
I say promo because that is exactly what it was to me. Britney having a great time while promoting some theme park etc. I feel jipped thinking about that…at least got to see her friends for photographic “moments.”
I don’t think the Vine case above is so interesting but I’d like to know … why did the plaintiff, after being contested, drop the case? Was he intimidated or did he get paid? Theories are welcome, QB. It’s not a case for me to call around on right now: bigger fish to fry and that’s to the good and due to the column.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Correction: Britney looking like she was out enjoying a great time. Who is to say a professional like her was or wasn’t.
October 28th, 2009 at 12:04 am
AM-
I think the Plaintiff realized he was not going to get as much money as he thought and that Brit’s insurance would pick up the tab because after all it was simply an accident, she did not intend to run his foot over.
It is amazing sometimes people file complaints asking for compensatory and punitive damages only to settle the case for a few thousand dollars.
Going back to Brit’s friends, where are they? Jamie could not have gotten rid of everyone. It seems like Brit and Laura Lynne drifted a part and now she is married with her own family.
October 28th, 2009 at 12:18 am
Amapola Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
“”But She knows I miss her and I’ll see her again soon. …” Sam continued.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I’d say that’s some seriously wishful thinking on his part!
October 28th, 2009 at 12:50 am
QB @ 12:04. As if everyone here follows the cases as closely — sorry about that.
Kerry Vine is not the foot guy. He’s a guy that worked with Edan Yemini for the same employer. TMZ came yakking that he worked for like a week, lifted a table, cried foul etc. That’s the Vine case. Vine’s lawyer had no comment.
Vine was a bodyguard? Hired onto the security team. I hardly think the suit was over an injury concerning a table as TMZ claims but then TMZ is what it is.
Mendoza, the foot guy, picks back up Nov. 3 I think.
October 28th, 2009 at 12:54 am
Sorry AM-
I guess I got my Brit lawsuits confused. I think both lawsuits are frivolous in their on way. If Vine was injured on the job, worker’s comp should take care of him ordinarily.
October 28th, 2009 at 1:46 am
I wish other people would speak out against this c-ship.
The last time I saw Britney with her “friends” was last Halloween. She was with Laura Lynn and Jantzen or Courtney. I can’t remember which one it was. A photo op for those long time Britney fans who knew that those were her best friends in the past. Do I believe they are the best of friends again? No.
And Jason, I don’t think he’s a bad guy. I saw pictures of him with Britney when she was married. I saw pictures of him w/Britney after she filed for divorce and partying with Paris. And I see pictures of him now. I would like to believe he is a good friend to her. I would like to believe she can confide in him and he doesn’t go and tell her parents shit. I would like to believe all that. I need to believe in something good, right?
I didn’t realize Jordan disliked Lynn Spears so much.
Bye all
Have a nice Wednesday.
October 28th, 2009 at 3:12 am
“small hands Says:
October 28th, 2009 at 1:46 am
‘
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The last time I saw Britney with her “friends” was last Halloween.”
Britney work a lot, and the free time she have, she love to spend with her kids, as we all can see.
She have done “The Cirkus tour” around the world, have she not?
Maybe that´s way she don´t spend so much time with friends?
She, as all people, must have time to rest some time.”
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“And Jason, I don’t think he’s a bad guy.”
A good friend.
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“I didn’t realize Jordan disliked Lynn Spears so much.”
Sam Lutfi and Jordan are like twins, and they think and hates like twins. Jordan is no longer any friend of Britney either. He just drive his site, living on her name.
October 28th, 2009 at 3:51 am
“Queen B Says:
October 28th, 2009 at 12:54 am Sorry AM-
I guess I got my Brit lawsuits confused. I think both lawsuits are frivolous in their on way.
.
..”
We pray:
Do not let this kind of use the law manage to spread it self and contaminate our legal system.
And we also pray that the use of the law, will get back into the right proportions in US.
In this way, the use of the law, it look like some kind of childish, but dangerous kind of play.
It is done films in the U.S. about this phenomenon now.
So the rest of the world look on it with big eyes.
Sad that people using the system in this way.
Don´t know if it´s good that the gossip media tell about it all the time, or if this will get this the misuse of the law, get more fuel?
October 28th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Ama,
Your yammerings about US laws/courts are getting old.
And the video…all you saw was your disdain for Lutfi. How about the positive…he spoke the words that many on this site have wanted to hear said out loud, in public, for a long time. It was great. You don’t have to like Lutfi to appreciate the words.
October 28th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
So in terms of lawsuits left, there was the Table Guy, the Foot Guy, and the Drugs In The Food Guy? And it’s pretty much just the Drugs In The Food Guy left?
Prediction: Several more frivolous lawsuits will pop up following the Australian leg of the Circus Tour.
(Or has someone already said that?)
October 28th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
You know what? Getting rid of Table Guy and the Foot Guy was a piece of cake compared to trying to get rid of Lutfi. He’s like the little roach that just refuses to die no matter how much you spray that sucker with a can of Raid. It flips over, the little legs will kick, and then it’ll lay still for about four seconds. But somehow it finds its way back onto its wobbly legs and continues to annoy the crap out of you and make you feel disgusted and defeated for not being able to get rid of the pesky critter for once and for all. That’s how I see Sam Lutfi.
What I originally wanted to say before going off about humans versus roaches is that I don’t feel like Lutfi will want to take a settlement if offered one. I don’t know how strong of a case he has but he is not going to go away easily, imo.
October 28th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Extreme Prejudice. Picture Painted. Revelations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8j2ej5jqQw&feature=related
How do you see things so far?
October 28th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
If Sam had any integrity, he’d offer to drop the lawsuit in return for a removal of the Conservatorship.
Not gonna happen. I know, already.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I yes, I know that’s not how c-ships work. But I bet an offer like that would sure make headlines.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
“And yes, I know…”
That’s what I meant.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Fantasy painted the picture …
October 28th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Extreme prejudice is blinding. It’s hard to see the next chess move or what’s happening on the board.
October 28th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Off topic but to answer a question for myself,
Sur
4 star rating
4/10/2009
As difficult as it is to identify LA culture, I think that Sur is LA in every sense of the word. There’s no paparazzi outside like The Ivy but it is what I think people imagine when they think of our night life and dining. It’s dark, candle lit and intimate. Intimate life dinner party intimate, like your table is intimately close to the table next to yours intimate, which is probably AGAINST Los Angeles culture but no one I know died from sitting close to another patron.
The food is enhanced by the atmosphere, the white sangria is delicious on a warm night and the wait staff is gorgeous in a way that you only seen in LA, Vegas and maybe Miami.
It’s a pricey affair, but a fun place to go if you want to be some place sexy, exotic and intimate. A great place for a date or a small group of friends.
I love Sur, I really do!
October 28th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
oops spoke too soon, another poster identifies, “Located right on trendy Robertson Blvd.”
Oh well. Who cares. The interview is done, posted and circulating.
October 28th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
I want to make only one thing clear in reference to what I said here earlier.
I did not and in no way mean to imply that Sam should be knocked off, whacked, or however one chooses to word it. I am visual. I was using a comparison of something that often people find aggravating and difficult to get to go away.
Having said that, I am not attempting to withdraw my comment. I’m clarifying what I said and why I said it in hopes that no one misinterprets what I said to mean something totally different.
October 28th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
i must be slow…i didn’t get the video mt posted. not the first time prob won’t be the last.
he comes up with some odd stuff. i liked the one with…what was it watermelons…NOOOOO strawberries!, that’s right, yeah…loved it.
October 28th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
lol you’re funny fantasy. i think we all got what you meant.
October 28th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
tmz live (today) spoke briefly about sam’s vid…nothing big…mike thinks they still speak and some thoughts on lutfi…no mention of the other stuff, the good stuff.
October 28th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
“MH Says:
October 28th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Ama,
Your yammerings about US laws/courts are getting old.
And the video…all you saw was your disdain for Lutfi. How about the positive…he spoke the words that many on this site have wanted to hear said out loud, in public, for a long time. It was great. You don’t have to like Lutfi to appreciate the words.”
Words from Sam Lutfi don´t mean anything. He working for his owm interest only. He don´t care about Britney.
This, look in this pic. Is this showing any kind of respect for Britney as a human being?
http://glosslip.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/brittongueear.jpg
And there was one part more in my comment.
“The video was done “Kaplan-style”
Are Sam in secretly impressed by Kaplan and try to copy his presentations?
Do he get the feeling that he in some way is like Kaplan. Important for the papz?
Or have Kaplan and Sam the same PR – advisor?
Kaplan have no hurry to end this case=
Britney-chip.
And maybe Sam is all AIR and have the same interest?
Kevin for sure must want to get an end on this c-chip case, before he get crazy, of beeing kept as a watchdog on a yard for ever.
October 28th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
And everyone is seduced by his eloquent friendly charm now?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1xIXft0d_w&feature=player_embedded
October 28th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
What does anyone see? I see a horizon. It doesn’t bother me. I scan all the time.
I see a blip. That fascinates me. It’s different than what was before.
That’s what I see.
October 28th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
>>>He working for his owm interest only. He don´t care about Britney.
ama, you missed the point. even if what you think of him is true, it doesn’t matter. take sam out of your mind and focus on the words that were finally said publicly, that’s all.
i don’t care if he tipped the paps to his location, has his own agenda, doesn’t care about her….whatever. those types of things may or may not be true. forget him and realize that someone finally spoke the words out loud. i think it’s great. i would love to see tmz post the video, but doubt that’s gonna happen.
October 28th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
MT’s videos puzzle me too but I think MH’s post points to a message today that echos the point of the vid?
Keep an open mind. That’s why you Ama were singled out as the person who would be shocked etc. Try to keep an open mind?
As for all else you said MH, cheers. I too am so glad someone said it and Sam did. I too am tired of hearing about the U.S. court system. yawn.
Where ARE Britney’s friends from Louisiana? Where ARE her friends from L.A. and elsewhere? She still doesn’t have a cell?
October 28th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
MH. Not that you were pointing back to the video.
October 28th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Amapola Says:
October 28th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
This, look in this pic. Is this showing any kind of respect for Britney as a human being?
http://glosslip.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/brittongueear.jpg
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I just see two young people joking around. I’ve probably got a couple of photos like that in my own albums.
October 28th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
“Sam on a white horse? Never thought of it that way. But there’s more to Sam than meets the eyes.”
If you wanna ride
Don´t ride the white horse
If you wanna ride
Don´t ride the white horse
White horse
Don´t ride the white horse
White horse
Don´t ride the white horse.
If you wanna be rich
You got to be a bitch
You got to be a bitch
I said rich, rich you bitch
If you wanna ride
Ride the white pony
Ride, ride the white pony
White pony, white pony
October 28th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Well, at least we know where Perez stands:
http://perezhilton.com/2009-10-28-leave-britney-alone-osama-lufti-speaks
“Reporters caught up with Britney Spears’ former “manager”, Osama Lufti, and – as per usual – he spewed a bunch of BS about Brit Brit and her much-needed conservatorship, which he is adamantly against.”
October 29th, 2009 at 12:01 am
I see an aged building being torn down.
October 29th, 2009 at 12:06 am
And so on.
…
October 29th, 2009 at 12:07 am
Sam Lutfi is a very dangerous man. Why is he so intent on getting back into Brit’s life? It is not as if they were life long friends. He does not care about her, he wants to control her.
Sam Lutfi is one of the main reasons why Brit is under a conservatorship. Goetz stated that the reason why the conservatorship was being made permanent was because Brit was still susceptible to “undue influence” which is one the four reasons why someone can be placed under a conservatorship.
If Lutfi was smart, he would not do or say anything to undermine the conservatorship and it would have maybe expired already. Instead he has been scheming and interfering since day one and all his manipulations have failed as the conservatorship is still in effect. If Jamie or the court needs a reason to keep Brit under control, Lutfi is Exhibit A. He almost ruined her life, he would try again if given the chance.
I agree with many that the conservatorship should be examined closely but Lutfi is the not person to raise these questions. He has no credibility.
October 29th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Queen B Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 12:07 am
Sam Lutfi is a very dangerous man. Why is he so intent on getting back into Brit’s life? It is not as if they were life long friends. He does not care about her, he wants to control her.
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Lutfi got a taste, however brief (Oct 2007 – Jan 2008) of what it was like to be the “manager” of a pop star. Regardless of what kind of person he was, he did a horrible job at “managing” and for that reason alone he needs to stay away.
However…Brit was on the road to personal ruin long, long before Lutfi entered her life. I honestly don’t think he did much more damage than she was already doing herself, because it had already been going on for so long. He just happened to enter her life when she was at her lowest.
I agree that Lutfi isn’t the best person to be raising questions about the conservatorship…It’s really too bad that someone with credibility (like Johnny Wright) wouldn’t continue to press the issue…And press it somewhere other than OK! or one of the tabloids.
October 29th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Okay, here’s one reason I tend to question *some* of Lynne’s claims against Lutfi:
http://nursinglink.monster.com/news/articles/2112-nurses-putting-up-with-britney
“While Dr. Phil McGraw certainly has caught a lot of flak over his involvement in the Spears case, sources both close to him and Britney’s mother, Lynne, confirm the TV advice guru and the senior Spearses are not as estranged as has been reported. ‘’Lynne is still upset that Dr. Phil has talked too much about Britney, but he was the one who recommended Dr. Nadel to them as a psychiatrist he trusted — especially concerning treatment for bipolar disease in young women,’’ said a Lynne Spears pal.”
This article was printed Feb. 1/08. Not in a tabloid, but in the Chicago Sun-Times. I don’t know if it’s true or not, but it tells me that the meds that Sam was allegedly crushing were prescribed to Brit by a doctor recommended by Dr. Phil, with the support of her own Mom.
Interesting, eh?
October 29th, 2009 at 11:56 am
So basically, Lynne was working with Dr. Phil and Dr. Nadel to get Brit her care…Knowing full well that the conservatorship was being planned by Jamie in the background:
http://www.sawfnews.com/gossip/47646.aspx
“Unlike the previous 5150 commitment, the one this time has been initiated by her psychiatrist Santa Monica-based Dr. Deborah Nadel.”
We’ve already covered this but…To me it was a huge mistake for Lynne to include certain claims in her declaration. I understand that she was trying to get Lutfi out of Brit’s life as quickly as possible, via a restraining order…But some of those claims have just given Lutfi ammunition and a reason to stick around.
October 29th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
I don’t know the Chicago Sun-Times, but I came across this blog this morning and just reading what’s in yellow text and wondering …I thought it was interesting reading in retrospect?
http://celebslam.celebuzz.com/category/jamie-spears/
October 29th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
I wonder if this kind of stuff still goes on? The searches, I mean – not the letter.
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/britney_spears_pregnancy_secret_adnan_ghalib_sam_lufti_kevin_federline_/celebrity/66415
“The bizarre letter was the latest salvo in her war against her father – and security guards handed it over to Jamie after discovering it during a search of Britney’s personal effects, said the source. Such searches are done regularly in an effort to keep Britney’s life under control, say insiders.”
October 29th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
The National Enquirer has always been a little more upfront about the situation, haven’t they?
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/65597
“Despite mountains of evidence about his cheating and on-the-record interviews with the other women, Casey expected to be paid for denying the affairs. But Casey wasn’t acting alone.
An ENQUIRER reporter talking to Casey soon got a call from Tri Star Sports & Entertainment Group.
A woman identifying herself as Lou M. Taylor told us: “I represent Jamie Lynn and Lynne Spears, and if you want to make a deal with Casey, go through me.”
Welcome to the family, Casey!”
October 29th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Tri-Star is the same company that currently manages Britney’s finances, non?
October 29th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
It’s hard sorting through fact v. fiction.
Oui.
October 29th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
What do we know about this? Where’s it at now?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,388104,00.html
Just asking. Open question to anyone.
October 29th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
I forgot about that. Here is something a little interesting and semi-related? Sorry about the “cached” link. Some interesting names and relationships here.
http://cache.zoominfo.com/CachedPage/?archive_id=0&page_id=289089231&page_url=//www.nsyncwebguide.com/news2002/april/news04082002f.html&page_last_updated=1/6/2003 7:41:45 PM&firstName=Mark&lastName=Steverson
I found it by searching Corina Biggar without the initial.
October 29th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
From that article:
“Spears established her charitable foundation at the Giving Back Fund in 1999 after her attorney, Rudolph, met Pollick at a fund-raiser and struck up a conversation. Among other things, her foundation helped finance the Britney Spears Camp for the Performing Arts on Cape Cod…”
And then by April 2002:
“…the pop star has given a clear signal that she’s moving ahead with her charitable program despite the legal hassles. Last week, she announced that the new Britney Spears Foundation will donate $1 million to…”
Just a bit of a timeline of the Foundation.
October 29th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Geez, it sounds like nothing more than a bunch of leeches sucking the hard-earned money out of celebrities.
And then it seemed to move from that (1999-2002) to celebrity endorsements like the “Scandinavian Style Mansion.” Throw a party, pay a celebrity to attend (or shower them with gifts instead) and then reap the benefits of being associated with them.
Hmmm.
October 29th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Just thinking out loud, but it doesn’t seem like what Claus and Lutfi were doing were THAT much different than what the GFB, Tonken and Larry were doing.
One is under the guise of “charity,” and the other was much more up front. But both are using the celebrity’s name to make a lot of money for a lot of people.
October 29th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I got a headache from that article. Too many names. Thanks, Steel for sorting it out in a clear manner. I wonder how the tax return went last year and if Bryan’s name was still on the account.
I don’t know why it wouldn’t be.
October 29th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Sorry, what I mean is that there’s a whole cottage-industry based around the “charity work” and “celebrity endorsements.”
In both cases, the celebrity improves their image. And in both cases, there’s a whole little ecosystem surrounding the celebrity – an ecosystem that creates income and jobs for all the Presidents, Directors, managers and lawyers that are associated with it.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Oh. The “official website” for the foundation is bs.com
Meanwhile, for the timeline … a bit of trivia.
COSTELLO: That is so funny. And the final item that I’d like to talk about this morning is also kind of strange, Britney Spears, her book report is for sale.
JULIEN: Absolutely. And people ask us where we got that. But originally she sold it in a charity auction to benefit her foundation, the Britney Spears Foundation. And it went to a collector.
Now, that collector is now selling it. So…
COSTELLO: Oh.
JULIEN: But it’s interesting that she gave it up because it has notes from the teacher saying that her proofread is messy. So why she chose that one, we thought she would have chose one with an A.
COSTELLO: What’s the subject? What’s the subject of the book report?
JULIEN: It’s about her brother. It’s called “Raymond’s Run.” And he’s not quite right and she’s OK with it. And that’s basically what it says. It’s a one page book report that she did approximately when she was eight, nine years old.
COSTELLO: He’s not quite right.
JULIEN: Exactly.
COSTELLO: But he’s OK.
JULIEN: You got it.
CNN, December 16, 2004 Thursday
SHOW: CNN DAYBREAK
October 29th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Steel @1:52 I hadn’t thought of it that way.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
I had no idea Bryan was so closely connected to Larry. I put the article in full on a back thread.
http://www.jfxonline.com/2009/10/27/courteney-invites-a-friend-to-cougar-town/
October 29th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
So.. when she fired Larry she fired Bryan too?
October 29th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
whatever happened with “giving it up”? i would love to see it.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Yeh, Ronnie. What gives?
… a small bit of trivia published by Salon.com, July 31, 2002
Not a good week for Britney Spears — and her father’s not helping matters much. According to the New Orleans Times-Picayune, four teenagers who visited Jamie Spears at the house Britney grew up in — in which he now, having separated from Britney’s mother, lives alone — in hopes of having a brush with fame and maybe getting a signed poster out of the deal, were not exactly greeted warmly by Mr. Spears. Instead, he unleashed a pack of snarling dogs on them and brandished a shiny revolver in their direction. “I had never seen a gun pulled in anger before,” one of the girls told the paper. “And I never thought that if it happened to me it would be Britney Spears’ dad.” Indeed.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
From the sleuths at X.
http://x17online.com/news/2009/01/photographer_beaten_held_hosta_1.php
why reinvent the wheel…it’s old stuff.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
The equivalent of a good mushroom trip. LOL
October 29th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
LOL! Bang!
October 29th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Interesting…
July 2002
Britney is touring Mexico with Johnny Wright.
She appears exhausted, homesick, but happy.
July 31, 2002
“Mr. Spears…unleashed a pack of snarling dogs on them and brandished a shiny revolver in their direction.”
July 22, 2003
“Founding partner Larry Rudolph will launch a new artist management unit — ReignDeer Entertainment — which will handle Spears and singer Nick Lachey exclusively…”
January 2004
Britney marries Jason Alexander in Vegas.
She later tells Matt Lauer it was because she was “being told what to do a lot, and in her young mind was acting out.”
March 2004
Begins the Onyx Hotel tour.
So…
Somewhere in there, Jamie sobers up…
October 29th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
We may have already discussed this but…
Does Steve Dennis mention at all WHY Jamie sobered up? What his rock bottom was? How he went from brandishing revolvers at teenagers and showing knives to reporters to being a cook for the Maloofs?
October 29th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
And the by January 8, 2006, Jamie is up to this:
http://www.poker777.com/20060108/britney-spears-brings-new-baby-to-poker-party.php
In 3.5 years he went from living in Kentwood with a serious drinking problem to hosting events at the Palms.
Not too shabby. So how’d he do it?
October 29th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
And lets not forget about J.J. Chills. That was even earlier, from 2004-2006:
http://www.mahalo.com/james-spears
October 29th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
What’s my point to all of this? I don’t know.
But something went on in 2003/2004. Lutfi has alluded to it. I wouldn’t be shocked if it was in that “dictation” that he was doing with Brit (as mentioned in the Rolling Stone article).
I’m just wondering what it is…
October 29th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
AM, I almost missed what you were saying:
“Bryan Spears — Britney Spears’ older brother — will share offices with ReignDeer and will rep the Spears family interests, as well as exploring entrepreneurial ventures with Rudolph.”
October 29th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Nice wrap up and somewhere in there Jamie does something that becomes useful to Lutfi?
I need a little help if no one minds. I was revisiting the pics that Perez had.
http://perezhilton.com/2009-02-12-adnand-draws-blood
Some of us questioned where the pics were taken. We thought it looked like an office. Whose office and at one time I wonder.
The Ram’s declaration has the photos as good as I can tell as they are in black/white. He says the incident happened in the morning. ok. But he stays in pain and he is taken to a medical center late that afternoon. Surely he’s not wearing the same clothes by then?
Here’s an example of the caption:
Agent Moskowitz’s left elbow injury (Taken at Office)
“Agent Moskowitz” is only an agent back at Chameleon? And is it me or do his injuries look like he was dragged rather than thrown from the car? If in fact he was on Adnan’s car.
October 29th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
ok, Chameleon office makes sense … so how do the pics go from there to Perez Hilton?
Ram never says he went to a police station. He says the fire department came and took a report. Then a police officer came and took a report. 15 minutes later another officer comes and takes a report.
October 29th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
What is a Perez Posse? Do they work for Perez?
October 29th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Amethyst Mine Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Nice wrap up and somewhere in there Jamie does something that becomes useful to Lutfi?
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There’s an old saying…
“Like attracts like.”
There’s a good reason why Lutfi won’t leave Jamie alone. And I think it goes beyond his relationship with Britney.
October 29th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Anyone see the irony in this post?
http://perezhilton.com/2009-10-29-britbrit-is-all-smiles
October 29th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
I thought it was “Like knows like.”
Nope, the irony was lost on me. I’m still working on photographs. Two police reports. The signatures would be interesting after Nov. 20.
oh wait. That’s TMZ that works the police. Were the pics in too poor of taste… well now there was that photo of Rihana..
October 29th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
“Steel_Magnolia Says:
October 28th, 2009 at 8:41 pm Amapola Says:
October 28th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
This, look in this pic. Is this showing any kind of respect for Britney as a human being?
http://glosslip.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/brittongueear.jpg
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I just see two young people joking around. I’ve probably got a couple of photos like that in my own albums.
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“two young people”?
I see middle-aged man, not so interested in women (?) sticking out his tounge, symbolizing, what do you say?
Who on earth could see or experience it as sexy . Or funny?
Britney did not see what Sam was doing, and what Sam shows for the papz showed how much power he had over Britney and also, how he looked on her.
He make fun of her, and somebody get paid well that night..
I would not said a word if he had done this move with his tounge to the man he shared bedroom with in Britneys house. That man could maybe found Sam Lutfi´s tounge sexy?
Honestly, I find Sam Lutfi´s tounge is disgusting.
October 29th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Old friends together
Perezhilton and Sam Lutfi 2008-02
http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1//2008/02/perez-pimples/perez-hilton-pimples-01.jpg
October 29th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Ama, I wouldn’t call it sexy.
I’d call it something close to a “Wet Willy.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_pranks
October 29th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
I am still in police land ‘cuz I need to write a certain story.
This article has often bugged me.
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b81738_Brit_s_Former_Boy_Toy_Half_Naked_When_Served.html
I almost have to believe that E! was being fed information from surveillance. Was it quickly fed?
Adnan’s house in Burbank? Um, no, how about a street address of Burbank Boulevard.
Back together with his ex-wife and back living with her in Burbank? I guess he was there but not in Burbank.
I mean, none of us here or anywhere knew that Adnan was living at his ex-wife’s apartment. Moskowitz says he was sent to Adnan’s ex-wife’s apartment.
JFXonline denied that he had been served that Saturday but ironically Adnan was served on the same date they wrote the story. He could have been served later that day.
Sorry I am thinking aloud guys if it is not a topic of interest.
October 29th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Don’t all jump in at once. lol. I am just painting my story, selecting colors, shades and lines.
Meanwhile, on Friday morning I got an anonymous tip. I was initially pretty excited until I came back from camping and did a little talking around. Also, at first I thought it was for my eyes only or for select eyes but I was wrong.
The sender used a simple voice without any noticeable characteristics. The tip seemed interesting. It had a lot of names and notes.
After doing a little sleuthing I decided not to post it and in the end concluded that what the sender wanted was for Fair News Spears to publish it. He told me so. When I explained my reasons why I wouldn’t, fair press and all, neutral, he suggested I post to another board that might have been a direct hit. To me the sender wanted to inflict direct pain and fear in others.
I’ll leave that to the side and get to the main reason I am posting this. Addy’s name is on it with a notion to seek who has seen or is buying stills or video of Britney by Adnan. My thought is to limit Adnan’s income? Or or to identity Adnan’s professional contacts? Why then be specific to Britney.
Thoughts anyone on any of this?
October 29th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
>>>JFXonline denied that he had been served that Saturday but ironically Adnan was served on the same date they wrote the story. He could have been served later that day.
the papers i’m reading say he was first served on 2/2/09, not 1/31/09 as you say above.
October 29th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Or maybe it was to try to find evidence to sully A’s reputation? Who knows.
October 29th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
either there’s a sex tape coming or someone is trying to do as you just said above….or who knows.
October 29th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
You open to a glimpse offline?
October 29th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
btw, was Feb. 11th seriously a full moon?
October 29th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
MH, I don’t think there is a sex tape anywhere. Steve Dennis claims in his book that there was a tape but there was nothing damaging, sexual or whatever. There was nothing to hurt Britney (if Steve’s claim is right).
October 29th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
along the lines of fair news…
if something (positive) was said in public (on a large scale) was actually a lie and you found out the truth with 100% certainty, would you write about it, even if it would portray ag in a negative light?
October 29th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
I don’t see the purpose of doing that unless he was an axe murderer or something and then we would have all been fooled. Why the test?
I got some of what I wrote straight from Steve in addition to what I read. btw, the LA Times will hopefully publish Steve’s interview and then I can publish mine.
October 29th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
I hate to sound suspicious but could be the Times (brand) is waiting for Britney to vacate town? Something in the book they don’t want her to know or hear of? You know like the Lynne’s reality and history with Jamie?
October 29th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
i asked the question because i was wondering about fair news and if you are really wanting to write fair news or just the part of story that helps your “cause” so to speak. you debunk tmz and others, but are willing to debunk the man himself. fair news and all. i think it’s a legitimate question.
cool, i was wondering what happened with your interview.
October 29th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
my question is not related to a sex tape.
but i would watch it if i could lol.
October 29th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
can’t do the offline thing.
be back later.
October 29th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Ah ha ha ha ha.
October 29th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
I am dying for that interview. It includes questions from Fantasy and small you know she reps you lifelong fans quite well.
As to Adnan and being a journalist with a blog,…let’s just say I haven’t wanted to intrude on his privacy and I would much rather concentrate on media, how it works, the celebrity machine. It’s a brand if you will and it’s working, little by little based on feedback. It’s also work that other journalists may respect. To some Britney fans it’s been an eye opener to read what I have unearthed and that has been rewarding.
October 29th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
I was laughing at the idea of watching the sex tape.
I’d never really thought about it.
It’s gotta beat Shauna Sands’ tape. I mean, really, aren’t we about due for a good one? LOL
October 29th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
About TMZ they just make it so easy.
October 29th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
MH, less you misunderstand I have also called the LA Times and the AP out onto the carpet. Don’t make this into a TMZ-only picture. Like I said they make it easy. The recent depiction of Adam Streisand and Britney was so easy it was dull.
Next is E! and Perez Hilton.
Other than your love for TMZ I don’t know why you would really care what I would hypothetically do in the future. Unless I missed it you’ve shown zero support since the day I announced that I would be writing about Britney and a cast of characters that happens to include Adnan.
October 29th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Although, “..cool, i was wondering what happened with your interview” could be read as support at last or asking about a story about the double process serving.
I don’t know. I am audi but might be back later.
Have a good night all.
October 29th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
http://www.popsugar.com/5900721
October 30th, 2009 at 12:52 am
That ring is old, yes?
October 30th, 2009 at 1:55 am
Amethyst Mine Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
MH, less you misunderstand I have also called the LA Times and the AP out onto the carpet. Don’t make this into a TMZ-only picture
MH Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
you debunk tmz and others,
October 30th, 2009 at 2:09 am
yes, the media angle…
ok, lets try it this way…
lets say the media said something about adnan that could/would be seen as positive and he confirmed it…but you come to find with 100% certainty the media lied, having had full knowledge of the truth, as well as adnan. would you write the story about the media’s bold faced lie?
October 30th, 2009 at 2:18 am
Amethyst Mine Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Other than your love for TMZ I don’t know why you would really care what I would hypothetically do in the future. Unless I missed it you’ve shown zero support since the day I announced that I would be writing about Britney and a cast of characters that happens to include Adnan.
Yes, I do love TMZ! I don’t like everything they do, but I’m a “fan”.
Yes, since you started your blog I haven’t said one word about it…good, bad or indifferent. That has been intentional.
October 30th, 2009 at 3:20 am
Soooooo, did anyone see the 3 video? Did it really leak?
Steel—I remember the story of Jamie pulling a gun on the fans back in Kentwood.
Trick or Treat everyone
If you party, party safely. In other words, get a designated driver 
October 30th, 2009 at 7:28 am
The media game and the publicity game…
AM, Now that you’ve turned me on to Lainey, I can’t get enough of her. And she definitely understands the game played by publicists and the tabloids:
http://www.laineygossip.com/Taylor_Lautner_takes_Taylor_Swift_out_for_dinner_in_his_big_boy_sports_car.aspx?CatID=0&CelID=0
“Jennifer Aniston only wishes her plays could run this smoothly.”
October 30th, 2009 at 7:46 am
small hands Says:
October 30th, 2009 at 3:20 am
Steel—I remember the story of Jamie pulling a gun on the fans back in Kentwood.
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I’m thinking Lutfi must have something up his sleeve that makes this story look like it’s nothing.
…Something that would justify Berk making the statement that Sam, “made clear to me by his words that there was some embarrassing information that he was fearful would be released against him” by Britney. And if that info were to be made public, Lutfi allegedly told Berk that he would then see to it that “destructive and unflattering information would be released about Jamie and Britney.” Berk saw this as “extortion” and contacted the LAPD.”
http://www.okmagazine.com/2009/04/testimony-heard-in-sam-lutfi-restraining-order-trial-13049/
October 30th, 2009 at 7:59 am
I’m just checking out the leaks from the “3″ video…
Can they not make a video for her that doesn’t feature some kind of product placement?
*sigh*
October 30th, 2009 at 8:50 am
I got this download link of “3″ from Exhale.
Not the best quality but it’s the real video.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?0zjju252dmy
October 30th, 2009 at 9:01 am
Same video and quality minus the download.
http://www.twitvid.com/67492
October 30th, 2009 at 9:11 am
It reminds me of an old C C Music Factory video. Really simple. I like it.
Brit looks ripped in it. I like that part, too.
She’s got the same look on her face as she does throughout the Piece of Me video. Only worse. I don’t like that part. At all. JMO.
October 30th, 2009 at 9:12 am
That was supposed to be “C and C Music Factory.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b714Wi4CDsQ
October 30th, 2009 at 9:21 am
LOL, St. Mag.
And you’re right about the C&C Music Factory vid. I am still waiting for the song to grow on me which it has yet to do. I think for now I can say the same about the video. I guess I have to watch it a half a dozen more times. She does look very good in it. I’ll give her that. And, um, that’s all I’ll say about it for now.
TTYL.
October 30th, 2009 at 11:51 am
MH, why would I deign to answer? You with your intentions lol.
October 30th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
http://celebrity-babies.com/2009/10/30/jayden-and-preston-federline-full-steam-ahead/
Very cute.
October 30th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
I’ve been watching that ‘3′ video a couple more times, and there are a lot of things that are weird about it. But what’s the weirdest is the editing…I can tell they’ve done a lot of fixing it up in post (e.g. slowing down the footage, cutting in the middle of a word, cutting in the middle of a dance move, etc.) Something tells me the director didn’t have very much good footage to work with, so they’ve had to stretch what they had.
I wonder what it was like on set? Any stories out there, other than the director saying Brit had tons of energy?
October 30th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Steel? I think I’ll call you Steel from now on because everyone else here does. And I started to ask myself if you really like having me call you St. Mag. I kind of thought maybe not. So from here on I’ll say Steel. Okay?
Now that I’ve watched 3 several times I can give a better opinion about it. 3 is okay. It isn’t Britney at her best but that’s not shocking. She looks good. I mean, if you ignore the hair she’s looks good. I don’t know what’s up with her extensions. Did anyone see that her hair is longer in the guy scenes than in the scenes with the girls? The dancing in some parts is what I’ve already seen her do in the Circus tour Youtube vids. Kind of bland. The shimmy, gyrating, and hair flips at this point is looking tired.
I’ve only read what is written on X17 about how Britney wasn’t connecting with the camera. Other than that I haven’t read about there being any on set problems. I’ve seen rehearsal videos for Circus and even Mannequin (last year) and she has got so much energy during practice. Yet it’s like when the camera rolls there is a void within her. She holds back somewhat. I don’t understand why. And it doesn’t look like her mouth is moving in sync with the track at all times.
I wish her people would stop having her pimp out her perfume in every other video. The scene of her putting on mascara and spraying herself with the latest perfume doesn’t even make sense. It has nothing to do with the rest of the video. Speaking of, what is the video about anyway?
I don’t like sounding so negative. I am only being honest. Overall 3, imo, is just okay.
October 30th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
I’ve been a bit harsh with my comments lately. Haven’t I? Sorry if feelings got hurt. The truth can sting but I won’t lie if I don’t like something. Even something by Britney. She’s still my favorite. It’ll be interesting to see if 3 is added for the Australian shows. I can’t believe she’s about to go back on the road. Her break has gone by quickly.
Isn’t the photo of SP and JJ adorable? SP is a mini Kevin. I’ll check other sites for more photos just to see if Kevin’s two older children were also there at the pumpkin patch place. Maybe they were there but just didn’t get mentioned in the Celebrity Baby Blog story. Kori and Kaleb are cute kids too.
October 30th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Fantasy, You can call me whatever you like. I was happy with being a saint.
I know what you mean about sounding negative…But it’s hard to be positive sometimes. I just haven’t had a good feeling about any of her videos lately. Especially the ones filmed since she started the tour. (Womanizer and Circus were good, in retrospect).
Britney videos used to have that certain “something” to them that made them special. A certain “in your face” quality…Iconic images…And yes, a connection to the camera.
Part of me wonders if she’s doing it on purpose…Purposely sabotaging her tour and videos…Phoning it in, just so she doesn’t get asked to do any more.
It’s kind of like her clothes that she wears day-to-day. One day she looks completely stylish, and the next day she looks a hot mess. So I *know* she has the ability to dress herself. It just makes me wonder if she purposely dresses like a hot mess some days just to drive her family and management nuts. I don’t know. It’s just always been a theory.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Yes …
Now, of course, I love Britney in a very mature way, and I am almost blind and very excited after having stared at her in the white “thing”.
If only there had been more close-ups …
Ohh, and this song too, the rhythm to it.
As I have said.
(Have not had time to check out Britney’s hair yet, which seems to be many troubles.)
I fell for Britney dressed in white.
Fell fell fell.
Find it interesting that she act behind a glass wall in parts of the video.. Interesting.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
correction:
(Have not yet had time to check out Britneys hair, which seems to be many peoples troubles)
October 30th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
I thought, ‘She could do this in her sleep.’
October 30th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
So what is it? It’s the second video without much group choreography to work on together. … Why won’t they let her dance? Mingle… cynical here.
October 30th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
I’m sure they *want* her to dance. I’m guessing she just doesn’t want to give them what they’re asking of her. Or maybe she just can’t.
It’s hard to do something when your heart just isn’t in it.
October 30th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
How different we react.
I’m most surprised about the impact Britney has on me.
She is really wonderfully female sensual.
I do not react at all the other ladies in “the business” in the same way. Will not give any names, but I´m unmoved when it come to them. They dont have “It”.
The “IT” that Britney have. Something special.
She can not do anything to not send this out. “IT”
Others try to do efforts to get/have this. She do not have to do that.
Believe it is a curse, for her. People can not understand why she affects them so much, and the things they dont understand maybe make them unsecure? They are very aggresive against her, that for sure.
The men?
I wonder how much anger she brings make them feel?
It’s like they want to crush her. Destroy her life.
Something strange it is.
And about your question AM.
How do you do a video about this: ” 180 degree , one two three or four, on the floor?”
Do not think she had any need to do that. For me it was perfect.
What I saw, her body, the parts of her body who are so perfect, it was enough for me.
I have fantasy.
I dont want to see everything. But what I saw, I found exciting.;)
October 30th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
I agree, Steel but .. sure looked like minimum time in the studio and I thought the dancing per someone’s tweet but supposed to be off the charts?
He’s one of her dancers. Meanwhile,
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/arts/la-et-britneybook31-2009oct31,0,5829435,full.story
I smell brand: inconsistencies between what Steve wrote in his book about how this project came to be and the Times version.
What does anyone think in general about the review? Does it give credit, build credit, discredit, cause doubt?
October 30th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Gee Adam. We weren’t aware of your desire to help Perez rise in the charts.
@PerezHilton and don’t forget- CLICK HERE to “follow” Perez on Twitter! 9:07 AM Oct 29th
So romantic.
@AdamLeber We can do it! Go Britney! 8:44 AM Oct 29th from web in reply to AdamLeber PerezHilton
@AdamLeber Who did she beat? She’s gotta toppled Ashton! 8:32 AM Oct 29th from web in reply to AdamLeber
October 30th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Correction: first tweet is Adam Leber to Perez …
October 30th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Ama. She does have “it” but she enthralled audiences with complex choreography — stuff few of us could do — she can really dance: Mannequin proved it anew.
So sorry if I did not get enough: it was not enough, I don’t think she is happy and I wonder how much input she has and it pisses me off the that brand let her or got her to do 3 but they let the tabloids spin it into something ugly.
Britney doesn’t have custody because she churns a dirty, sexy image while her pitiful father has “tried” to clean up her image?
I don’t know. Where the hell is her publicist? Any hear a single quote from Holly? No .. just some inside source at People.com clarifying that Britney may be dating but she is certainly not getting married.
Relate to the artist all you want. Be glad for the appreciation you have for what was nothing given her ability and love of dance. I for one miss Britney.
October 30th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Ama, I think that Britney has so much “IT” that even when she puts in a half-hearted effort, she still has more “IT” than all the rest of them!
October 30th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
The least one have to hope is that the people who will decide over the future of Britney’s life, NOT mixes her professional life, lyrics, dance and dress, with her daily life?
More common sense one must believe this people have?!?!
If not, this is really scary.
October 30th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Ama, Ever hear this song before?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3hJqsgjtII
Don’t listen if you’re easily offended. It’s just an example of what you were talking about a few posts back. Only intensified.
October 30th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
um… the video seems to have disappeared… Perez doesn’t have it, Jordan doesn’t .. and others?
October 30th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Hey, Steel? Do you think x17 was right in saying “she wasn’t connecting with the camera”?
Or was it just the so/so welcome (obvious at BH and a few other locations) so Brit’s going to get the blame?
Alot of people are talking about the editing (either that or you have multiple personalities and user names).
October 30th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
LOL. Multiple personalities and user names. Isn’t that you?!
I don’t know…If I was the director, I wouldn’t be very happy with the footage she was giving me. Not a lot of continuity, barely moving her mouth while lipsynching, no connection with the camera…
If you watch which frame the editor cuts on, you can actually see where he or she is trying to cover up the slopping lipsynching. Just watch. If you pay special attention to the transition between shots, you’ll really start to see. Especially at the end. There’s a lot of fast cutting to try to give the illusion of action or excitement, but…I don’t know. I have to watch it on a regular TV. It could just be the speed of my Internet connection paying tricks on me.
October 30th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
AM
I´m easy offended?? LOL
I like him.
He does not either have to be perfect.
He is unusual too.
And about Unusual You?
Do you hear how loud that song, who never get a video, is heards? Higher and louder for every day.
Its absence is becoming more and more present ..
October 30th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Maybe the editor and me got so hooked on the same visuel part of her wonderful body, so everything else get foggy?
October 30th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Steel, I would love to watch again but .. who has it anymore?
October 30th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
8 Mile. Hottest love scene ever! Don’t ask me why I find him attractive, cause I’ve really got no clue!
(What did Lainey say about him? She’d hold hands with him walking down the street. So he “wasn’t a shame f@ck.” And she couldn’t understand why she felt that way. lol)
October 30th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
The ‘3′ video?
BS.com
October 30th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
AM
What is it you cant see.
Britney “3″ or eminem?
I can see the video “3″ perfectly on Britney site.
October 30th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
http://www.britney.com/us/3videopremiere
It was supposed to be here? It never did work from bs.com for me. And it was at the other sites I mentioned.
World Premiere: “3″ Music Video
OCTOBER 30, 2009, 10:04 am
Well… what do you say? Feel free to embed this piece of Britney hotness anywhere and everywhere! Click MENU in bottom right-hand corner, then “get code.” xx♥
(I see no vid at all — nothing to click on, no image, nothing…)
October 30th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
AM, Maybe update your Flash player?
October 30th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
be back, thanks, Steel.
October 30th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Works in Explorer but not Firefox. Thanks for the tip though … I am starting to see though about the edits.
October 30th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Ama. I really wanted to see her sing the “freak” with an F part and the 3P v. repeat.
In my “fantasy” life she really saying something but it’s doctored on the vid, the lyrics, etc. by the brand.
Who the f. knows. It’s just so shallow otherwise … things as magic as Gimme, Piece of Me, and all that others on here have talked about with more experience than I.
October 30th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Getting feedback from Steve Dennis and the Times. You can Twitter.
Water rolls off his feathers.
October 30th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
The Times’ critique of Steve’s book is interesting. I guess I could believe that Brit does not have bi polar disorder but instead could not handle the stress of fame but there are other big stars who experienced fame at a young age but do not have the kinds of problems that Brit has or had. Why did Brit falter why other stars thrived?
I never think it is a good idea to psychoanalyze someone you don’t know but people on TV do it all the time. They’ll show a ten second clip and some psychologist will attempt to diagnose them.
I mean, Dr. Drew Pinsky has made living critiquing celebrities and diagnosing them without ever having met any of them. “Oh, Lindsay Lohan is a drug addict, Brit is addicted to drugs etc” His opinion is based on nothing more that second hand/hearsay information and not personal knowledge.
October 31st, 2009 at 10:41 am
Talk about turning the “IT” off and on! Check out this photo. To me, it looks like the glint is back in her eye. She totally looks like “herself” here:
http://www.breatheheavy.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1256975044&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&
Also, if you’re looking for a bit of a mind trip, watch all the little siggies that the BH’ers have created using the new ‘3′ video. You can totally see where she’s turning the “IT” off and on. In the close-up shots she looks kind of “dead in the eyes,” but in the long shots where she’s dancing in the white low-cut jumpsuit holding on to the bar she looks like the old Britney again. But then there’s a dance sequence where she’s dressed in a black criss-cross shirt, and I actually laughed out loud! She’s waving her arms around like crazy, but barely even moving her feet off the ground!
I honestly think she chooses to turn the “IT” on and off depending on how she’s feeling at any particular time. That old spark is there – she just doesn’t *want* to use it.
October 31st, 2009 at 10:44 am
Queen B Says:
October 30th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Why did Brit falter why other stars thrived?
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Excellent question!
Both Justin Timberlake and Christina Aguilera have followed the same career path, and neither are anywhere close to being under a conservatorship. Christina seems like a pretty tough cookie, and Justin appears to have a great support system around him. Has that made a difference?
October 31st, 2009 at 10:47 am
Also, there are tons of other stars who have been addicted to drugs, or live with bi-polar disorder, or have gone into bankruptcy through bad spending habits or bad investments. We don’t see any of them being put under a conservatorship.
Up until Feb. 2008 I had never once even *heard* the word “conservatorship.”
October 31st, 2009 at 1:28 pm
“Steel_Magnolia Says:
October 31st, 2009 at 10:47 am Also, there are tons of other stars who have been addicted to drugs, or live with bi-polar disorder, or have gone into bankruptcy through bad spending habits or bad investments. We don’t see any of them being put under a conservatorship……”
SORRY LONG ANSWER
1. Something in her person makes people wanting to OWN her.
2. She is grown up with a parent who was violent alcoholic. Kids still love their parents. She can´t stand up against evel men that raise their voices and dominate over others.
3. She have had long times realations with men (Justin T and Kevin F are good example ) who are “no-male” like. Like boys. Men who are a sort of female kind.) Men who she not get scared of.
3. The media have absolutly “killed” her. Felix (a Jamie Spears/Adam Leber kind of man), David, and other very “ugly” persons.
4. She have grown up in a home who not have had any intelectual interests and that´s not good. She have not get any stimuli beside the “Disney” kind of world.
5. She is fragile, she is sensitive.Because of how violent and unsecure the situation is for a kid to have have an violent alcoholic as a parent.
And maybe also have being “daddys” girl? Kids love their parents. Children are so forgiving of their parents.
6. People who are hungry for power have have taken advantage of this, even her closest persons have not acting in the right way.
Sadly, I think she stop trusting people.
She started to be uncertain.
(”I used to be cool earlier” FTR)
7. She have been hunted and she is not a person like Paris Hilton who LOVE to be hunted by the press.
8. Britney is a free spirit and people as I have described in the whole comment are people who don´t want her to be free.
They want to own her.
They want to determine how she shall live, think, dress, eat, laugh, dance, sing, love.
I do hope that she in the future find a place of community, individuals, part of US, where she can live freely and can avoid all vultures.
A place where the normal standard is to be a free spirit.
Live and let live
””””””””””””””’
Of course, this is is how I see it, after following her life in media some years.
I dont know for sure. But I do see a pattern.
October 31st, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Forget to say thank you to JM (!) who made it possible to see wonderful Britneys Spears in white, in the “3″ video.
October 31st, 2009 at 2:34 pm
“He’s written two books in the voice of Lady Diana’s butler Paul Burrell, and another as British footballer Ashley Cole.
But about a year ago, Dennis’ own story took a strange turn. When a proposed ghostwriting job with Britney Spears didn’t come through, he decided to write a biography of the pop princess.”
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/arts/la-et-britneybook31-2009oct31,0,5829435,full.story
Funny, I’ve read Dennis’ books without even realizing I did. I used to be infatuated with Diana – wrote a major final year paper in university on the relationship between Diana and the paparazzi. And then went on to read Paul Burrell’s books. Err…I mean, Steve Dennis’ books!
October 31st, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Ha, and I didn’t even realize until I just wrote that why I’m still posting here at JFX. I guess I’ve been interested in the relationship between celebrities and the paparazzi for quite a while now!
October 31st, 2009 at 3:35 pm
@1:28 AMEN. Why do so many forget these things in “comparing” Britney to other child stars?
And I am with Ama. Phew, JM!
October 31st, 2009 at 3:42 pm
‘But about a year ago, Dennis’ own story took a strange turn. When a proposed ghostwriting job with Britney Spears didn’t come through, he decided to write a biography of the pop princess.”
lol LA Times.
de-bunk de-bunk
November 1st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
The full US Weekly Nov. 2 at killthelights
http://killthelights.org/thumbnails.php?album=7960
‘She’s at a place where she can live her life with a great deal of freedom that is consistent and structured. The chaos has been removed.’
hunh?
November 1st, 2009 at 8:46 pm
AM-
I know it seems like an oxymoron to say one hand Brit has a great deal of freedom even though her life is incredibly structured.
I do understand the quote though. Brit lives in a box and within that box she does have some sort of freedom but she can never step out of that box so she can hang out with people like Jason because Jamie approves of him but she can’t hang out with Adnan because Jamie does not like him.
She can go to the store and buy things as long as she does not exceed her weekly or monthly allowance so in essence Brit’s life is child-like in many respects.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:45 pm
One thing that I DO like is the heightened security that surrounds her now. I think it’s a good thing for her to be surrounded with professionals that can keep her and the boys safe. Thinking back to this time in 2007, there were many instances when Brit or the boys could have been injured by either the paps surrounding her so closely, or by a fan. (Remember the lady yelling at her in the parking lot of the plaza, and Jamie Lynne screaming back in the woman’s face? Or the high speed chases in her car?) Even innocent bystanders could’ve been injured…
And consistency and structure is good, too. I can appreciate where that would help her a lot.
But…living in narrow spaces can’t be healthy, either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cElk8cQk2VY&feature=related
November 1st, 2009 at 10:28 pm
I agree with you Steel that a star of Brit’s stature does need professional security and that is an obvious plus however it is still unfortunate that every aspect of her life has to managed by others. I think it is sad that a 27 year old woman is under a conservatorship even if it is necessary.
I just read a story on People about Nicolas Cage who is now suing his former business manager claiming that the manager gave him bad advice and now he is deeply in debt and owes the government millions.
Cage is a good example for why celebrities should control and manage their own money and not depend on someone else to do it for them or atleast watch them closely.
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:55 pm
@3:42 he avers it was his publisher’s idea but that Spears’ camp was looking for a ghostwriter last year.
Neither here nor there but … I wonder how that might have worked for the woman subverted from testimony to anything. Maybe subverted is a strong word.. a scripted Q&A would not have worked for someone like Steve.
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Amethyst Mine Says:
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:55 pm
I wonder how that might have worked for the woman subverted from testimony to anything.
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Can you imagine?!
What was it going to be called? Through The Storm, Part 2?
I wouldn’t put it past them.
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Hello all!
Not much news out there, huh?
Well, there is a Blind Sex and Drink item over at Lainey Gossip that I just found. Once again, I’m feeling to lazy to post the link.
It sounds like it could be about someone we all may know of. But I could be so wrong. I like Blind Items. Especially at Dlisted because MK will throw out his guesses and everyone plays along.
Hope I wasn’t interrupting anything.
brb.
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
http://www.laineygossip.com/
That’s all I feel like typing because the rest is too long and I think the last time I put up a link to Lainey it didn’t work right. So maybe this base link will do for now.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Yes, Steel it would have been “doctored” all to hell, but by whom?
On the other hand, what if industry peeps were simply led to believe there was a ghostwriting op?
If management (doh!)called for the book to coincide with Britney’s first round in Europe…
I might be grasping at straws but there is the similar illusion in Oct. 2008 that she was doing so well that she might show up for court at any minute but her dad “wouldn’t allow it.” That was right as Womanizer was about to come out plus the album.
2 cts – it’s all about marketing from a cynical point of view.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:22 pm
AM…
Lou?
And, d’uh! Of course it is!
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Geez, how much do I love Lainey?!
I believe every word of it. Know why? Because when you treat someone like a child, they act like a child (and vice versa). And she’s been treated like a child her entire life. So how and when is she ever going to learn from her bad experiences?
She’s never had to learn from her bad behaviour because her team always swoops in to cover up the damage. So she doesn’t have to deal with the fall out the way a regular person would. She just has to deal with more of their control.
A vicious cycle that only they have the power to stop.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
fantasy, no need for a bunch of typing to post a link…
just highlight the address
hit control c (to copy)
hit control v (to paste)
easy peasy.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Thank you, MH.
I’ll do that next time.
I just tested one out on another thread here on David Beckham. It worked. I wish I’d known how to do that sooner. I’d been doing every link manually. Writing it, then typing it, and checking it to see if it links to the right thing.
I’m still learning my way around the computer.
Glad to know now about the shortcuts.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Interview with Steve Dennis is up.
http://wp.me/px8ZX-hh
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:45 pm
That’s a really good one, AM.
I like that one a lot.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Sorry guys. I did try to find out about London.
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Steve Dennis says:
“She’s found as a performer-and therein lies the very challenge that Britney continues to face.”
I think that is THE saddest thing I’ve read all day. Seriously. I question what tools Britney has learned and or been given since February 2008 to be able to cope with herself and her extraordinary life outside the conservatorship and the familiarity of the stage.
What has she learned from this experience? Anything at all? Or is she simply playing by the rules to appease her father and the courts and ultimately the court of public opinion?
Am, the questions were great. Some of Steve’s answers aren’t going over well with me. (Just being honest.) But, Am, you did do a great job!
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Fantasy Says:
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
What has she learned from this experience? Anything at all? Or is she simply playing by the rules to appease her father and the courts and ultimately the court of public opinion?
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That’s exactly why I tend to believe what Lainey posted today. I don’t think it should come as a surprise to anyone, either.
How could *anyone* possibly grow and mature as an adult while living in that kind of situation?
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:23 pm
LOL Fantasy. I agree but whatcha’ gonna do? Edit out his point of view? I really don’t like the idea of six months conservatorship post tour.
I mean I really, really don’t. Why six months? How much therapy has she had along the way and wasn’t the idea of it to help her to get on her way? Aren’t they doing anything now to prepare her for later? Like being free and how to begin to try to gain at least 50/50 legal custody of her children?
I was surprised to read on BH this morning that some people think she is only under a conservatorship on paper. They think the c-ship is over and has been for awhile, it’s just legal stuff now.
Wasn’t that some of the point of a romance/showmance? You and Steel both noticed that c-ship was dropping out of the stories. Based on BH I guess that showmanship had the desired effect on some.
Thanks Fantasy for the support. Onward I guess. I was thinking last night it would be interesting to ask xtina why she doesn’t think more people talk about it with the press.
Now we all know where to stay in Kentwood and what to eat. LOL at Steve for doing Kentwood a favor and not including pics. I like his sense of humor, patience that I’ve seen so far and willingness to field a question.
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Correction: on xtina and why she believes more people aren’t willing to go on record with their questions or beliefs.
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:00 pm
“Steel_Magnolia Says:
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:30 pm Geez, how much do I love Lainey?!
I believe every word of it. Know why? Because when you treat someone like a child, they act like a child (and vice versa). And she’s been treated like a child her entire life. So how and when is she ever going to learn from her bad experiences?
She’s never had to learn from her bad behaviour because her team always swoops in to cover up the damage. So she doesn’t have to deal with the fall out the way a regular person would. She just has to deal with more of their control.
A vicious cycle that only they have the power to stop.”
********************
So with that perspective, one can say that M Kaplan tried his best to stop Kevin Federline behave in a poor and childish way?
Just wondering what made Kevin Federline so immature, from the start?
Is it his upbringing too, or is it his own genuine personality.
This enhancement by Kevin F= Not drink, smoke p**, hunt women, and above all not making new kids, who he can´t supply for, is that just a surface?
Surface to fool the courts, socila authorities and the media?
When he get what he wants, he can revert back to behaving like a pig?
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Just asking again. If there are still three shrinks (doubt it) then what have they been helping her with or teaching her the past two years? Where is the thought to independence and not taking on husbands (undue influence) like K-Fed.
I am not buying the need for six months more of conservatorship post tour. Does she have people to teach her about money or how to hire people?
Ama. We haven’t seen K-Fed revert in public other than the house he rented, the story of non-payment and the mystery photos of damage to the house.
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:04 am
The Steve Dennis interview was very interesting. Does Brit really need 6 more months of the conservatorship?
I really do not know because we really do not know what is “wrong” with Brit in the first place and how long it will take to overcome those problems, if they can even be overcome anytime soon.
The very fact that the conservatorship was made permanent one year ago is a reflection that her issues were unlikely to go away any time soon otherwise it would have stayed “temporary”.
I agree with Steve that the time when Brit is not on the road on tour is when the trust test begins because the tour serves as an escape from her normal life and without it she has confront all of the things that caused her to be under a conservatorship in the first place.
I remember Jamie saying that the conservatorship will end when it is supposed to which means it could 3 months from now or a year from now.
The kids on BH/Exhale think the conservatorship is not really real but they do not know what they are talking about because even though Jamie does not live with Brit or is with her every second does not mean he does not know what is going on at all times after all he is the gatekeeper.
November 3rd, 2009 at 4:36 am
AM–great interview.
Sorry for my short responses. It gets tiring reading about Britney and nothing changes.
November 3rd, 2009 at 6:38 am
AM
“….
Ama. We haven’t seen K-Fed revert in public other than the house he rented, the story of non-payment and the mystery photos of damage to the house.”
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I talk about The Future, and I dont talk about how it look in that house he rent.
I talked about the way he behaved like a pig Before, Under, and After he was married to Britney. Then Kaplan took over.
Kevin was suddenly “the father of the year” Dressed in suit.
Stayed home, showed nothing of his bad personality.
Even if he talk with a voice like a little boy, he for sure not is as “sweet” as Shar and sadly also Britney believed and told before.
Before she got to know his true personality.
Sadly is also that the boys can relax more when they are in the public with Kevin, because the papz don´n follow him and the kids as hard as they follow Britney and the kids.
Stupid people maybe believes the kids are happier when they doing things outside in parks and so on, when they are with Kevin….
No they not, They just can relax more.
The papz are not so close and not so many.
Media have a huge responsibility over the two boys future life.
Don´t go so near Britney when the kids are with her! One can see that the kids do not like that. Too many papz!!!!!!
Scary for the kids.
November 3rd, 2009 at 9:42 am
My biggest fear is that if the conservatorship lasts for another 6 months after the tour, that 6 months from now we’ll hear the announcement that Brit has renewed her contract with Jive, that she’s working on a new album, and that another tour is on the way.
I honestly hope that this is the last album, video and tour we hear out of her for a long time. In fact, if she never records or tours again? Awesome.
Thinking back, one of the smartest things I ever did in life was take a 5 week trip to Europe. I went all by myself – the only Canadian on a bus load of Australians, Kiwis and people from various other countries. I was also the youngest person on the trip by 20 years. For the first three days I cried my eyes out because I was so lonely. And then for the next 5 weeks I had the time of my life – totally separated from my parents, friends, and everything I ever knew. It was an amazing learning experience – not just about the other countries and other cultures, but about myself.
I’d love to see Britney do something similar – take a 5 week (or 5 month) trip to Greece and just stay there, away from her parents, management, and all the other people who put pressure on her to be Britney “The Brand” and not Britney “the person.” And you know what? If she falls off the wagon, or gets herself in trouble, so be it. She has to start learning on her own, without the interference of others. I’m no psychologist, but to me it seems like the only way. (My 2 cents…which isn’t worth much. lol)
November 3rd, 2009 at 10:09 am
And I know people will say, “Well, she tried that before, and failed miserably at it.” But when she tried to separate herself from them the last time, it was in the midst of a divorce and a nasty custody battle.
And I tend to think that would make *any* woman lose her mind a little.
November 3rd, 2009 at 10:22 am
Steel_Magnolia Says:
November 3rd, 2009 at 9:42 am My biggest fear is that if the conservatorship lasts for another 6 months after the tour, that 6 months from now we’ll hear the announcement that Brit has renewed her contract with Jive, that she’s working on a new album, and that another tour is on the way.
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Steel there was some talk of that on one of the Exhale back threads a month ago. I don’t know if it’s true or not but it was said that Britney renewed her contract with Jive after the In The Zone cd (2003 release). Supposedly she is under contract for 3 studio cd’s and 1 compilation cd.
If that is actually true then she may owe the label one more studio cd. Maybe this is why we’re getting The Single’s Collection compilation cd this month. And perhaps 1 more studio cd sometime next year as it’s been rumored.
It does look like things are being done to try to hurry and record a song like 3 and a new cd just so she can fulfill her contractual obligation. Then there’s her contract with Larry. We all know that they are tied together for 5 years which would puts their agreement to an end around 2011. I’m basing this on the stories that are out there of the two teaming up again after her split from Kevin in 2006. If Britney does release a new cd next year I’ll guess and say it’ll debut in late summer/early fall 2010. I can’t say if she’ll tour again but I really hope not.
November 3rd, 2009 at 10:25 am
As you all can see I learned how to copy and paste so I can quote and respond to someone.
I’m so proud of myself. ha ha
November 3rd, 2009 at 10:47 am
Yay, Fantasy!
November 3rd, 2009 at 10:49 am
I honestly thought that this Singles Collection was it – that she’d now fulfilled her contract with Jive and didn’t owe them anything more.
I forgot about her contract with Larry.
Oh brother.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Thanks, small. Your opinion matters. I like the fan questions near the end.
It’s great that Steve did the interview and it’s cool he did it with out interruption, but on the other hand there was no opportunity to clarify, dig, get more info.
I am grateful for what he gave and finally there is some clarification as to the Spears camp apparently trying to arrange an autobiography through a ghost writer and then…
Fantasy, Steel you’re echoing things I thought about yesterday at a stoplight. When does it end? Brit comes home, she does a few holiday appearances including Christmas cards, Christmas sales do well then comes January .. oh hey, Spain, Portugal… it’s hard for me to imagine they are already scouting for more opportunities.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Correction: aren’t already scouting.
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Tweet from “britney spears”
Longest flight ever but we had a great time. Really cool plane and the V staff took great care of us. So excited to be here! -Britney
http://www.vaustralia.com.au/
November 3rd, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Amethyst @ 3:31pm
Is there anything they won’t plug? lol
November 3rd, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Nope, Fantasy and I notice someone started a thread on BH about it and the tweets.
Steel. I got a half-baked idea for you.
What if Jamie had had Lutfi’s threat for the last time… so… whatever the secret was, oh say a history of domestic abuse??? (from the book), gets dropped into a biography but at the end of said biography he’s a changed man where his responsibilities take a heavy toll.
Sam loses power over, or at least some power, over Jamie. Said biographer gets help getting the skinny in documents no one else had found from the courthouse on domestic violence and his previous marriage.
In said theory, a committee is formed to find a ghostwriter “for Britney’s autobiography” but it’s really an interview for something else.
I have more coming on that book by the way but not written for the blog and or here. So… if anyone was unhappy with some things the biographer said?
November 3rd, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Captain Red Ass.
I wish a few of you had read this book. A lot of early sources on Britney, Lynne and Jamie are from Jamie’s side of the family.
It’s almost like his side of the story.
um er hrmmf
Aunty Chandra, the wife of John Mark Spears, or former wife (she’s only identified as having lived with John Mark for two years so was well acquainted with things going on at Jamie’s house)is quite talkative with detail about Britney and Britney coming to their house because Jamie’s drinking scared her.
And here’s a little blame for Lynne. “He was the sweetest man and good as gold one minute but once you’ve pressed the wrong button, you best run and hide — and Lynne knew how to press the wrong buttons.” Aunty Chandra.
You have to make someone look bad to make the other look good (MT).
I’m not snowed. I am asking questions and pointing now Steel-style in a direction I had not considered.
November 3rd, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Just saying Britney’s not in power but ‘Captain Red Ass’ is. Who authorizes publishers to meet to talk about writing a book… other than Lou or through Lou …?
Not Britney: The conservatorship.
Oh yeh, right, it’s like the LA Times said and not how Steve told it. You decide.
‘ONE THING TO ADD POST-LA TIMES INTERVIEW:
I was attached as a ghost-writer to Harper Collins’ proposal to publish Britney’s autobiography. The publisher was one of a few around the negotiating table. But Britney’s camp ultimately walked away without ever proceeding with a deal. It was then that Harper Collins UK approached and commissioned me to write a biography that was supportive and compassionate. I then decided that I wanted to understand the human not the brand, and incorporate the expertise of a psychotherapy. The surface of the Britney saga had been well-skimmed over the years, but I wanted to go deeper. Only the reader can decide whether I’ve achieved that but that was certainly the mission in mind.’
November 3rd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Chandra’s not resistant to helping out the family. Jamie Lynne Spears’ pregnancy was planned. oc.
http://www.popcrunch.com/jamie-lynn-spears-planned-pregnancy-aunt-chandra-mcgovern-suggests/
and
http://www.britneyintervention.com/britneys-aunt-states-the-obvious/
Goodness. Aunty Chandra is googlelicious with the story line.
November 3rd, 2009 at 8:09 pm
http://www.hercast.com/2008/01/page/53/
‘The story their selling isn’t revealing anything too new, though, except for the fact that they spoke to Britney’s aunt, Chandra McGovern, who says what we all are thinking, “She needs to be on suicide watch. I’m truly, truly concerned. I don’t think things can get any worse now than us losing her completely.”’
Serious. This is er was Britney’s favorite aunt?
November 3rd, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Chatty Chandra must have moved out of town and changed her cell number. Where is she now? She’s been awfully quiet for almost 2 years. That must be some kind of record for her. Kidding.
As for being Britney’s favorite aunt?
I always thought that was Lynne’s sister Sandra.
November 3rd, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Yes, ’tis strange her silence once the c-ship was in place.
Here’s another blast from the past.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/696556/Britney-Spears-Fears-for-mental-health-Gran-committed-suicide.html
There’s Chatty and… grandma committing suicide. Jamie’s family looks great as well.
Captain Red Ass. That was how he was known in the family but… does domestic violence run in the family?
I think domestic violence issues are a lot scarier than alcoholism. What did that little girl go through.
November 3rd, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Domestic violence COMBINED with alcoholism is what is scary. Not all abusers are alcoholics. And not all alcoholics are abusive. Abusers tend to have major issues with having control over the person who they are mistreating. It’s like an illness. Some people carry it in their blood.
Once I found out about Jamie’s mother taking her life that lead me to the belief that Jamie (and perhaps one or more of his siblings) turned to alcohol to numb the pain of losing their mom. Jamie probabaly is from a generation where you don’t talk about your feelings. You cry when you’re all by yourself. Your tears blend in with the drinks you guzzle. You’re emotionally unavailable. Jamie looks to be that kind of guy.
He may not have meant to cause pain to his wife and kids back then. I mean, someone once hurt him too, his mother. You know? Maybe that’s where all of the family hurt and darkness stems from. I’m only guessing, y’all. I’m no expert.
On a lighter note. Britney’s first show in Australia is on Friday. I’ll be at the show via BH and fan twitters. Meanwhile, 3, the song has began to grow on me. Finally. But so far the video has not. I’ll give it more time.
I gotta go. Have a great night everybody! TTYL.
November 4th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
The kids and K-Fed are with her?
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21498,26303595-2761,00.html?from=public_rss
November 4th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Sick. Sad. This guy may or may not really be trying to help his kid, I don’t know. But this is just sick.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/worldwide-exclusive-lindsay-lohan%E2%80%99s-desperate-cry-help-%E2%80%93-hear-her-dramatic-call
November 4th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
AM, At least your last link mentions the conservatorship. In N. America they don’t seem to mention it at all.
“Her father Jamie Spears, who is the singer’s permanent conservator of her estate, is also in tow.”
November 4th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
“The tape, obtained exclusively by RadarOnline.com, is the first of several which were recorded from phone calls Lindsay and her mom Dina made to Lindsay’s dad Michael Lohan.”
The first of several?!
November 4th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Oh Perez…How righteous of you:
“And as for you Michael- The fact that you actually are starting to release these private moments of anguish from your daughter makes us sick. You are the lowest kind of person! Stabbing your own daughter in the back!
CLICK HERE to hear the very sad audiotape.”
November 4th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
I love overhearing these conversations:
http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/03/britney-spears-tsa-security-drink-soda-video/
“Allan, shoot long please! Teamwork!”
Poor Allan. lol
November 4th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Lainey says,
“PS. The reference to a “billion dollar brand” was not ironic. Sex & Drink is not Ali Lohan. Heh.”
Who’s Ali’s manager? Yep.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
@2:03 Curious TMZ corrected their story to ice chips while meanwhile 60,000 voted that it was unfair of Britney to get through TSA with a drinking liquid.
Damage done but what caused TMZ to correct the story? Is that usual?
November 4th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Who is Lindsay supposed to be talking to? Who keeps a tape recorder on their phone? I don’t. It’s doubtful the wealthy would have an answering machine…
November 4th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/04/britney-spears-conservatorship-lawyers-fees-court/
November 4th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
watch todays tmz live when they post it later. near the end of the tape…re c-ship.
November 4th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/04/britney-spears-conservatorship-lawyers-fees-court/
November 4th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Do you have a link for the TV webcast?
November 4th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/04/lindsay-lohan-michael-lohan-twitter/
November 4th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
at the 30 minute mark.
http://www.tmz.com/tmzlive?autoplay=true&mediaKey=936415c8-7297-4b0a-b73d-4d37d0ec81c9
November 5th, 2009 at 12:13 am
Stickin’ to the script.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:39 am
http://perezhilton.com/2009-11-04-britbrit-paid-big-bucks-for-her-saneness
November 5th, 2009 at 12:43 am
Jan. 31 2008 or take Feb. 1, 2008
2010 minus….
What’s the push with one year? It’ll be two. What’s Mike Waters talking about one year last week as the anniversary?
Britney made the contracts? She can not sign her name legally that anyone knows. Sure would like a current appraisal of capacity to participate in c-ship meetings, testify or sign her name.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:03 am
Mike is talking about October 28, 2008. That’s when the conservators filed to make the c-ship permanent. It didn’t officially become permanent until January 5, 2009. So I really don’t have any idea why he’s referencing Oct. 2008 specifically.
It seems at this point legally speaking Britney and Jamie’s names are interchangeable.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:23 am
Fantasy Says:
November 5th, 2009 at 1:03 am
So I really don’t have any idea why he’s referencing Oct. 2008 specifically.
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It sure sounds a lot better than two years, doesn’t it?
“One year? That’s not that long to be under a conservatorship.”
“Wow! Look how far she’s come in only a year!”
November 5th, 2009 at 1:29 am
script.
@ Steel.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:39 am
MT. It’s old.
‘Someone’s taking over
And it look like they’re aiming
Right at you, at me, at everybody’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gYBvSx_wCA&feature=channel
Fire back.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:02 am
There must be something in there.
November 5th, 2009 at 3:11 am
Michael Lohan was on Access Hollywood tonight talking about Lindsay. He said something very interesting. Something Steel and I mentioned several months ago. He said rehab is where she became addicted to prescription meds. I don’t know how much of what he said is true or not. It made me remember how Steel and I had wondered, if Britney was addicted to pills, maybe she got the prescritions from rehab. Do you remember Steel?
I’ll try to find a link to the story or video.
November 5th, 2009 at 3:14 am
Here is a link to the story. Britney is mentioned.
http://www.accesshollywood.com/michael-lohan-on-why-he-wants-lindsay-back-in-rehab_article_25108
November 5th, 2009 at 3:15 am
Good Night
November 5th, 2009 at 3:57 am
“Michael claims his current efforts to get Lindsay back into rehab have failed and he’s considering trying to take control of Lindsay’s life through a legal conservatorship, similar to what Jamie Spears did for his daughter Britney.
“Britney Spears’ family had to come together. Mom and dad are separate [but] they had to come together, they had to commit her into a psych ward, they had to take her away from her children, but the difference is… her father laid very low during this process. He went in himself and quiet… and laid low,” Billy said.”
November 5th, 2009 at 3:59 am
Who’s Lindsay’s manager? Just asking.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:28 am
Contradict much?
>>> his objective is to get his daughter Lindsay into rehab. That’s why he recorded their phone conversations
>>>Michael played Billy the tape of their phone conversation while Lindsay was allegedly at Cirque Lodge, to drive home his point.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:27 am
God, protect every celebrity child from money hungry parents and lawyers. Put the parents on rehab, Try to help them get free from greed and narcicism, and put the lawyers into rehab too. Hurry up!
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The only time Britney showed damages from pills was the time when Sam Lufti and the doctors, (?) or who ever it was, who “gave them” to Lutfi, for putting them in Britneys body.
Britneys visibly damages by this Lufi pills was high blood press.
She also got tics. Which could have damages her for her whole life. Read about those pills!!!
Britney was given wrong doses and wrong medicin, and her whole sytem went upside down.
About pills against anxiety who are given on rehabs.
One not get addicted on prescript medicines when its needed to help a person with anxiety.
Not as soon as people now thinks.
I mean, people are even afraid of coffee nowadays!
The anxiety, “eat up” the effect of the pills, and no sort of ecstasy arise.
The person just get some resting from the anxiety.
Sam Lutfi, and the pills he put into her drinks and forced her to take (”if she want to she her babies”), that was dangerous pills!
With dangerous effects, if given in wrong dos.
Wrong doses, very dangerous.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:50 am
I really hate Michael Lohan. It is so obvious that he does not care about Lindsay and only about getting a paycheck.
He wants to be like Jamie Spears but look at how Jamie conducted himself during the past 2 years and lock at how Michael acts. One father keeps a relatively low profile and the other one constantly talks to the press.
Michael Lohan reminds me of Jon Voigt, Angelina Jolie’s dad. One day Jon went on TV with Access Hollywood or Barbara Walters crying about how concerned he was for his daughter and how he wanted her to get her help and what was the outcome. Angelina Jolie cut off all contact with her father; he has no relationship with her or children and she legally changed her name from Angelina Jolie Voigt to Angelina Jolie.
All of Michael’s antics have done nothing but drive him further away from Lindsay. Does Lindsay have a drug/alcohol problem? Probably, but leaking private conversations to the media will not help. He is really pathetic and embarassing
November 5th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
I love it!
http://x17online.com/celebrities/britney_spears/britney_barely_arrives_in_australia_and_already_causing_controversy-11052009.php
November 5th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
>>>One not get addicted on prescript medicines when its needed to help a person with anxiety.
>>>The anxiety, “eat up” the effect of the pills, and no sort of ecstasy arise.
The person just get some resting from the anxiety.
Ama, Benzos are often what’s perscribed for anxiety and they are addictive. You need to do a little more research hun.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
This is all about him, not about helping his kid. Sad. Sick.
“I admit, I’m being a bit selfish in releasing the tapes,” he told us. “But I’m tired of being lied about. I’m tired of Dina and others making me out to be someone I’m not, so now I’m going to prove to the world who the real liars are.”
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/world-exclusive-audio-dina-lohan-begged-lindsay-go-rehab
November 5th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Prescribed.
that typo was bugging me lol
November 5th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
The Lindsay situation is heartbreaking.
I feel bad for her.
She has no one who she can trust. She must feel so alone. Her dad is going about this matter all wrong. Poor Linds.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
“Lip-synching or not, the Circus is still a great show!”
That’s one part of the X article I can agree with. And the rest, well…I bet her management wasn’t expecting THAT to happen!
November 5th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/warning-onn-tickets-that-singers-will-mime-on-stage/story-e6freuy9-1225794826115
‘Spears’s tour director Steve Dixon defended Britney’s miming and said it was the show people came to see.
“This is a pop spectacular, this is a showband show. You come for the experience,” he said.
“There is a lot to see about this show, there’s nothing like this in the world. Britney Spears will entertain you, that’s what people come for. We absolutely give them a show.”‘
November 5th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
http://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUSTRE4AC12H20081113
China’s name and shame system.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Just wondering if this is another effort to keep the illusion of romance while meanwhile putting out rumors of marriage. Ah heck, maybe it was just something fun to write for Life and Style.
http://www.poorbritney.com/blog/?p=10379
November 5th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Amethyst Mine Says:
November 5th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Just wondering if this is another effort to keep the illusion of romance while meanwhile putting out rumors of marriage.
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I wouldn’t be shocked if Brit is hoping that if she married Jason she can get out of the c-ship. I think we’ve seen a similar article before:
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/britney_spears_pregnancy_secret_adnan_ghalib_sam_lufti_kevin_federline_/celebrity/66415
November 5th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
MH Says:
November 5th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Benzos are often what’s perscribed for anxiety and they are addictive.
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And other medications (e.g. those prescribed for ADHD) can be crushed and snorted for an effect similar to coke. Or so I’ve been told.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Did anyone else notice this?
“Britney Spears’ family had to come together…they had to commit her into a psych ward, they had to take her away from her children…” Billy said.”
This is coming from Access Hollywood. Is it just me, or is that the first time someone in the industry has actually come out and said, “Britney’s parents committed her to a psych ward, and Britney’s parents took her away from her children”?
Or am I just reading that wrong?
November 5th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Access Hollywood’s Billy got in wrong which I’m not surprised because not everyone has followed this case closely.
Brit’s parents had nothing to do with her being involuntarily committed to the psych ward. Of course, some people believe otherwise but I would have to disagree.
Also, Brit’s parents did not take her children away-the court did because she was mentally unstable and her instability was putting the children at risk.
It was only after Brit had been hospitalized twice and lost all visitation rights with her children did Jamie move the court for a conservatorship.
November 5th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
It says in Dennis’s book that Jamie had a thought to take away the kids and that would snap Britney into shape? He told that to Alli Sims.
Kaplan had an opportunity and he went for it.
Still don’t know what K-Fed and Britney were fighting about before Britney ran with her baby into the bathroom.
November 5th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/11/05/fox411-exclusive-lindsay-lohan-now-afraid-to-leave-voice-messages/
November 5th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Amethyst Mine Says:
November 5th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
It says in Dennis’s book that Jamie had a thought to take away the kids and that would snap Britney into shape? He told that to Alli Sims.
Kaplan had an opportunity and he went for it.
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We’ve also had a suggestion about a Pellicano-style situation. How much of that was going – if any – we don’t know.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Also, we know that the second 5150 came from her doctor. We also now know that it was the same doctor who was brought in at the suggestion of Dr. Phil, who had been in close contact with her parents for at least a year before.
I’m not saying that the commitment wasn’t necessary – it more than likely was, for her own safety. And it’s done her a lot of good. But I do believe it goes a bit deeper than what we’re seeing on the surface.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
@4:39 Do we know any of this as fact? The source was tabloid yes?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:29 pm